Vaccines From Jehovah. AGM part 1.

[SusanB]

So, as the disciples said to Jesus, WHERE do we go to? Just keep to ourselves and speak to people about Jehovah's purpose so they know who to call on during the GT?

Actually, you are not correct. The scripture does NOT ask WHERE do we go but WHOM do we go to. We stay with Jesus.

John 6:68: “Simon Peter answered him: “Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life.”

One word can change the entire meaning. The only people leaving Jesus are the ones who have left his teachings and his example.

 

[Ms_ladyblue]

But meet WHERE?

The scriptures don’t specify a building but back then they met together in other Christians’ homes.
Also, remember Jesus said wherever two or more were gathered together in his name there he would be.
Many times in the apostles’ letters to the congregations they would mention how they were with them in spirit.
So that qualifies us coming together HERE on this forum discussing scriptures and encouraging one another as goldie said.

 

[SusanB]

I hear you!! Ok then, what about where the bible talks about not forsaking the gathering together?

I understand your question, because I have asked that too. I think we must first realize that the gathering together must be between those who are actually following Jesus’ teachings and example. But there always have been exceptions when under ban for example. People have to adjust and do what they can, pray for help, understanding and opportunity. And, we must accept times of distress. There is a reason why the true prophets were often in the wilderness and not at the temple. Just apply that to today.

Psalm 37:16: “Better is the little of the righteous one Than the abundance of many wicked ones.”

Psalm 50:16-17: “But God will say to the wicked: “What right do you have to relate my regulations Or to speak about my covenant? For you hate discipline, And you keep turning your back on my words.”

Psalm 94:14-16: “For Jehovah will not forsake his people, Nor will he abandon his inheritance. For judgment will once again be righteous, And all the upright in heart will follow it. Who will rise up for me against the wicked? Who will take a stand for me against the wrongdoers?”

Psalm 149:1: “Praise Jah! Sing to Jehovah a new song; Praise him in the congregation of the loyal ones.”

The scripture below is really a message to the anointed ones and no doubt there will be a future time when they will be told to get out of Bablyon and I think this probably refers to that, but we can extrapolate and ask the question, can we leave too soon? But the real question is, can you stay faithful and even grow spiritually outside of the congregation? It looks to me, just my opinion, that what is served up as spiritual food these days in the congregations is not only baby food but contaminated with idolatry. However, each of us must use our bible trained conscience and decide for ourself.

2 Corinthians 6:16-18: “And what agreement does God’s temple have with idols? For we are a temple of a living God; just as God said: “I will reside among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.” “‘Therefore, get out from among them, and separate yourselves,’ says Jehovah, ‘and quit touching the unclean thing’”; “‘and I will take you in.’” “‘And I will become a father to you, and you will become sons and daughters to me,’ says Jehovah, the Almighty.”

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

I understand your question, because I have asked that too. I think we must first realize that the gathering together must be between those who are actually following Jesus’ teachings and example. But there always have been exceptions when under ban for example. People have to adjust and do what they can, pray for help, understanding and opportunity. And, we must accept times of distress. There is a reason why the true prophets were often in the wilderness and not at the temple. Just apply that to today.

Psalm 37:16: “Better is the little of the righteous one Than the abundance of many wicked ones.”

Psalm 50:16-17: “But God will say to the wicked: “What right do you have to relate my regulations Or to speak about my covenant? For you hate discipline, And you keep turning your back on my words.”

Psalm 94:14-16: “For Jehovah will not forsake his people, Nor will he abandon his inheritance. For judgment will once again be righteous, And all the upright in heart will follow it. Who will rise up for me against the wicked? Who will take a stand for me against the wrongdoers?”

Psalm 149:1: “Praise Jah! Sing to Jehovah a new song; Praise him in the congregation of the loyal ones.”

The scripture below is really a message to the anointed ones and no doubt there will be a future time when they will be told to get out of Bablyon and I think this probably refers to that, but we can extrapolate and ask the question, can we leave too soon? But the real question is, can you stay faithful and even grow spiritually outside of the congregation? It looks to me, just my opinion, that what is served up as spiritual food these days in the congregations is not only baby food but contaminated with idolatry. However, each of us must use our bible trained conscience and decide for ourself.

2 Corinthians 6:16-18: “And what agreement does God’s temple have with idols? For we are a temple of a living God; just as God said: “I will reside among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.” “‘Therefore, get out from among them, and separate yourselves,’ says Jehovah, ‘and quit touching the unclean thing’”; “‘and I will take you in.’” “‘And I will become a father to you, and you will become sons and daughters to me,’ says Jehovah, the Almighty.”

All that makes a lot of sense. What the GB have done and said these past 3/4 years grinded me to a halt so to speak, I felt like I just couldn't keep going forward because all of a sudden, I didn't know where I was walking to

 

[a watcher]

All that makes a lot of sense. What the GB have done and said these past 3/4 years grinded me to a halt so to speak, I felt like I just couldn't keep going forward because all of a sudden, I didn't know where I was walking to

The preaching work isn't over yet. We need to be out in it.

 

[SusanB]

The preaching work isn't over yet. We need to be out in it.

Yes, especially do the anointed need to preach. But caution about what you are preaching is certainly important too.

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

The preaching work isn't over yet. We need to be out in it.

I only do informal now, and online, and I only link to scriptures, I can't bring myself to link to the website anymore..

 

[SusanB]

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Wow. So important for people to realize. Thank you Goldie. Great post.

 

[alan ford]

But meet WHERE?

Matthew 18:20

 

[Medi-tator]

We STAY with Jehovah and Jesus. Not the borg. I think you get that. It takes a while to clear all the WT clutter from our heads.

Absolutely a key point here /\ /\ @Patricia !

Jesus assigned the angels to clear out the stumbling blocks from his congregation at the appropriate time. We know Jesus' congregation is the anointed, so in turn, we know where the stumbling blocks originate from. The act of stumbling assumes and indicates momentum, for how does one stumble if one is not moving from point A to point B. So while we are stumbling, we ask the question "To whom shall we go to?" To me, we stumble out of the Org but our stumbling momentum carries us directly into the loving arms of Jehovah and Jesus. Not a bad "to whom"!!

 

[kirmmy]

Well they were neglectful because not one of those who pushed the injections have any medical qualifications in order to be able to recommend them.

Knowing something and proving something are very different. First the pharma companies would have to be proven as providing the shots without due care and diligence. I can see that happening, in fact it has happened in a way with the discovery of junk DNA in the magic sauce. They were negligent.

But then the WBTS would have to be shown to be in collusion with them knowing the shots were negligently prepared and recommending them anyway in exchange for something...money.

In the courts of earth, it's a losing case, but in Jehovah's court it going to be a slam-dunk conviction for them.

That's why we all look to Jehovah's perfect justice. It will arrive someday, hopefully soon...

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

Knowing something and proving something are very different. First the pharma companies would have to be proven as providing the shots without due care and diligence. I can see that happening, in fact it has happened in a way with the discovery of junk DNA in the magic sauce. They were negligent.

But then the WBTS would have to be shown to be in collusion with them knowing the shots were negligently prepared and recommending them anyway in exchange for something...money.

In the courts of earth, it's a losing case, but in Jehovah's court it going to be a slam-dunk conviction for them.

That's why we all look to Jehovah's perfect justice. It will arrive someday, hopefully soon...

I don't know, there's stacks of old articles of the organisation stating they are not medically qualified to give advice or recommendations. And then they gave it anyways!! Either way, it's going to bring devastation upon them, Jehovah must be so angry at all the divisions they've caused and all the damage they've done to his people, and to his reputation of course

 

[goldie]

This passage was my comfort through covid and all the gb updates.

 

[kirmmy]

I don't know, there's stacks of old articles of the organisation stating they are not medically qualified to give advice or recommendations. And then they gave it anyways!! Either way, it's going to bring devastation upon them, Jehovah must be so angry at all the divisions they've caused and all the damage they've done to his people, and to his reputation of course

True and you hinted at the real problem today. We're being divided, just like Christ said...kingdom against kingdom, Mother against son, Father against daughter, etc... People can no longer find common ground and are actually hostile to differing opinions.

If you stand back and look you can see the Devil's play, to divide and thereby conquer.

Black against white
West against East
Immigrant against citizen
Straight against gay
Republican against Democrat
Conservative against liberal
Rich against poor
Men against Women

And on and on and on...

People that are alone and afraid are defenseless and easily conquered, they can't think straight, fear permeates everything they think and do.

The battle lines are being drawn and we must struggle to stay out of it, or better put, stay on Jehovah's side and under his protection.

I guess that's the ultimate division and the only one that really matters: On Jehovah's side and submitted to his rule, or not.

Matt 10:34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

This passage was my comfort through covid and all the gb updates.

That is a lovely Psalm, the who chapter actually. I've just read it all in the NWT. What translation is that one please?

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

True and you hinted at the real problem today. We're being divided, just like Christ said...kingdom against kingdom, Mother against son, Father against daughter, etc... People can no longer find common ground and are actually hostile to differing opinions.

If you stand back and look you can see the Devil's play, to divide and thereby conquer.

Black against white
West against East
Immigrant against citizen
Straight against gay
Republican against Democrat
Conservative against liberal
Rich against poor
Men against Women

And on and on and on...

People that are alone and afraid are defenseless and easily conquered, they can't think straight, fear permeates everything they think and do.

The battle lines are being drawn and we must struggle to stay out of it, or better put, stay on Jehovah's side and under his protection.

I guess that's the ultimate division and the only one that really matters: On Jehovah's side and submitted to his rule, or not.

Matt 10:34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

Yes! And the scripture in Romans 8 about what can separate us from Jehovah is a good one too. You're right about the devil. In order to do this to Jehovah's people he had to get to the "top" so to speak, in order to have the biggest influence. It's so weird you know, I felt like the organisation had been "infiltrated" right at the beginning of the nonsense, but I was too scared to say anything to anyone for quite some time. I thought it was just ME that was having those "bad" thoughts