Ana
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En Purim no es.So after all that...can someone tell me the date of the memorial?
En Purim no es.So after all that...can someone tell me the date of the memorial?
Thanks for the additional info. I was confused about questioning the date for the memorial but the following information also confirms that March 24th would be the correct date this year.The Hebrews determined the Passover to be on the first full moon after the spring equinox. (Actually, Jehovah fixed it to that) This year the first full moon falls on March 25th check it out However, there is an issue this year because it is a lunar Leap Year on the Hebrew calendar. That may have something to do with the discrepancy. Check it out. Keep in mind the Jewish Passover is not a single day but a week-long observance. This year the week running up to Nisan 14 begins before the first post-equinox full moon, so they bumped it back to the second full moon in April. I doubt the Watchtower goes by the Jewish calendar and rabbinic determinations. Observing the death of Christ on the first full moon after spring is not some grand conspiracy to move the Memorial. True, the Watchtower has been involved in plenty of nefarious conspiracies, but this ain't one of them.
This looks logical and can we hope its the final answer?Thanks for the additional info. I was confused about questioning the date for the memorial but the following information also confirms that March 24th would be the correct date this year.
Using the astronomical dates for 2024, the vernal equinox in the Northern Hemisphere occurs on Tuesday, March 19. The first full Moon to occur after that equinox date is March's Full Worm Moon, which reaches peak illumination on Monday, March 25, at 3:00 A.M.
You are right sister. The organization itself has in the past said that to calculate the date of the Commemoration, you must observe the NEW MOON after the spring equinox. From the first sign of the observation of the NEW MOON, 14 days are counted to find out the date of the 14th of Nisan or Jewish Passover. This year it falls on April 22, not March 24. Greetings!Today I saw on an ex jw witness video that the witnesses are celebrating the Memorial this year on March 24, which doesn’t fall on Nisan 14. To verify this I looked this up on the internet ( Googled it) and find that March 24 is a celebration of Purim, a Jewish holiday which has nothing to do with Jesus sacrificial death.
On the other hand, Nisan 14, according to the Gregorian calendar falls on April 22. Could someone help me to understand this please? Why are Jehovah’s Witnesses are celebrating the Memorial on March 24?
Here’s what the celebration of Purim is about:
“Purim is a Jewish holiday that commemorates the saving of the Jewish people from annihilation at the hands of an official of the Achaemenid Empire named Haman, as it is recounted in the Book of Esther. Haman was the royal vizier to the Persian king Ahasuerus. Wikipedia
Date: Sat, Mar 23, 2024 – Sun, Mar 24, 2024”
What is Purim, and how is the holiday celebrated in the city?
Purim, a Jewish holiday, will be celebrated this weekend.www.ny1.com
Nisan 14 is actually on April 22 this year.
April 2024 Calendar – Israel
Israel April 2024 – Calendar with holidays. Monthly calendar for the month April in year 2024. Calendars – online and print friendly – for any year and monthwww.timeanddate.com
Which means Memorial should be observed on the 21st.Nisan 14 is actually on April 22 this year.
It is not the 21st of April, but the 22nd at sunset.Publiqué sobre esto anteriormente y por qué los diferentes grupos tienen diferentes fechas para el memorial, pero nadie comentó al respecto.
Lo que significa que la Conmemoración debería celebrarse el día 21.
Keep in mind that the Jewish day runs from 6:00 p.m. in the evening to 6:00 p.m. the following evening.It is not the 21st of April, but the 22nd at sunset.
There is no need to debate this. Exodus chapter 12 makes it clear that it is about the 14th, not the 13th. Greetings brother!Tenga en cuenta que el día judío va desde las 6:00 p. m. de la tarde hasta las 6:00 p. m. del día siguiente.
Debido a que el día judío comienza a las seis de la tarde, el 14 de Nisán en realidad comienza en el día marcado como 13 de Nisán en el calendario judío. Después de las seis de la tarde del día indicado como 13 de Nisán es el momento apropiado para la celebración de la Conmemoración. Jesús observó la Pascua/Memorial la primera noche, fue ejecutado la segunda noche.
Apparently you don't understand the Jewish calendar. Let me ask you Cherry, When was Jesus put to death?There is no need to debate this. Exodus chapter 12 makes it clear that it is about the 14th, not the 13th. Greetings brother!
So first of all. The demons and Satan are obsessed with numerology. That should tell us something. There is something to it. But like all esoteric information, Jehovah has not revealed the details to us, and we can assume he's done this for a very good reason. So not everything is a point of contention, some of it, we just don't understand! End of story!
Apparently you don't understand the Jewish calendar. Let me ask you Cherry, When was Jesus put to death?
I don't know why to mess with this issue. On April 22 after sunset, Nisan 14 begins, according to the Jewish calendar. So Jesus is sacrificed before the end of Nisan 14, which for our current calendar would be April 23. For this reason the Commemoration must be celebrated at dusk, that is, when the 14th of Nisan begins. Do you understand now?... I hope so...Apparently you don't understand the Jewish calendar. Let me ask you Cherry, When was Jesus put to death?
I'm using the google translator. Maybe that's why I'm not being understood well. My regards, brother!Apparently you don't understand the Jewish calendar. Let me ask you Cherry, When was Jesus put to death?
I don’t know about you Seadog, but what with people here arguing about whom should be taking the emblems, who is or is not anointed, what constitutes the mark of the beast, and now lunar leap years, I am beginning to see the depths that Jehovah plumbs in His patience. I’m as confused as you are. Do you know if there is a time and date we can rely on? I do not have anyone to observe the memorial with but I would like to acknowledge the event at the correct day if not the actual minute.This looks logical and can we hope its the final answer?
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Why not both dates, then it's always right, simpleYou are right sister. The organization itself has in the past said that to calculate the date of the Commemoration, you must observe the NEW MOON after the spring equinox. From the first sign of the observation of the NEW MOON, 14 days are counted to find out the date of the 14th of Nisan or Jewish Passover. This year it falls on April 22, not March 24. Greetings!
I wonder how the memorial was ever celebrated over the last 1900 years before the watchtower recognised its significance with the anointed. I can find no trace of it prior to watchtower in that its true significance was noted. There is evidence for the anointed during this period if the events leading up to this time are noted, but little about the significance of “do this as often as you do it…” .Why not both dates, then it's always right, simple
Just start March 24 and end on April 23rd and you're covered.I don’t know about you Seadog, but what with people here arguing about whom should be taking the emblems, who is or is not anointed, what constitutes the mark of the beast, and now lunar leap years, I am beginning to see the depths that Jehovah plumbs in His patience. I’m as confused as you are. Do you know if there is a time and date we can rely on? I do not have anyone to observe the memorial with but I would like to acknowledge the event at the correct day if not the actual minute.
The Catholic Church's "mass" would be how it apostatized and came down to us today is my guess.I wonder how the memorial was ever celebrated over the last 1900 years before the watchtower recognised its significance with the anointed. I can find no trace of it prior to watchtower in that its true significance was noted. There is evidence for the anointed during this period if the events leading up to this time are noted, but little about the significance of “do this as often as you do it…” .