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Sunshower

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Total idiot PM Rutte visited Ukraine yesterday and suggested the Netherlands to adopt and rebuild Kherson. There isn't one sane person in Holland that supports this war. Also 75% of the country stand by the farmers. Our government is as far removed from the common people as the governing body are from the common Jehovah's witnesses.

From alternative newssite Dissident One in Holland:

The puppets of the international crime syndicate have completely lost their way, they cannot comprehend that NATO has lost the war with Russia without a chance.
Mark Rutte was in Kiev yesterday and told De Telegraaf newspaper that he is "looking at whether the region around the Ukrainian port city of Kherson can be adopted by the Netherlands for rebuilding".

The cartel newspaper does report that Russia has controlled the port city since March 2, but adds that Ukraine is trying to recapture the city.

Ukraine will never succeed in that and the only port city they still have, Odessa, they will also lose within now and 3 months. I've said it before; Ukraine will cease to exist.

“The Netherlands is good at port development, at agriculture and at everything that has to do with water. We can offer that expertise throughout Ukraine. And those things come together very nicely around Kherson.” – Rutte

Rutte did not come up with the idea that the Netherlands may rebuild Kherson, it is not even broken, he was told that from above, because it was already mentioned in the post-war 'reconstruction plan' in which Zelenski demanded 750 billion dollars from the West.

Rutte also visited Bucha, the Telegraaf reports:

"This is where the images came from of people who were shot randomly on the street," Rutte said from Kiev on Monday evening.

Shot and killed by Kiev in a false flag operation as we know it from the CIA.

Rutte just can't tell the truth. And that makes him a very bad person.
 

PJ54

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JW's are familiar with 2Tim 3:1-5, perhaps too familiar. As I have pointed out numerous times, society has not always been characterized by all of those negative traits Paul listed. The apostle did not say that men will become this and that during the last days, but that the last days would be critical times hard to deal with because men will have become so evil. Well, I believe the beginning of the last days is imminent.
If you look at the day to day interactions of people, the resentment & hate is there. It's like people want the collapse so they all can settle the score. I doubt there are those who will work things out. Their mentality is winner take all & it shows.
 
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Back during the 2008 crash when supposedly the global financial system came within a few hours of seizing up, and president Bush famously said with his Texas twang: "This sucker could come down," Goldman Sachs CEO said that the bankers were "doing God's work." Most people probably dismissed Lloyd Blankfein's comment as the arrogant blatherings of a Wall Street banker. I don't know the context of his remark. It doesn't matter. But I do think the banker was on to something.

As it stands now everyone is wringing their hands over inflation. Conventional wisdom says that because the easy money policy of the last 15 years created the environment of inflation the only way to fix it is to cause a money contraction. That worked back in the early 80s when the FED jacked interest rates up to 20%. It won't work now though. And why not? Because there is far too much debt based on low-interest rates. That includes the zillions of dollars of junk bonds that bankrupt companies sell to keep them afloat. And of course, the US government is totally dependent upon low-interest rates to service its gargantuan debt.

What is funny though, is that the Wall Street traders have become so accustomed to the central banks being their partners at the craps table that they assume the FED is working to gradually tame inflation. But what if the central banks are actually being used by a secret cabal to destroy the capitalist system and impose a global communistic government? It can easily be done by crashing the financial system and bankrupting the governments of Europe and America and foreclosing on the vital industries necessary for life. Not only can it be done, but the process is already far along. Lloyd Blankfein was right. The bankers really are doing God's work. The only question is what comes first, the crash or world war? Right now it is just too close to call.


 
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Nomex

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Wall Street traders have become so accustomed to the central banks being their partners at the craps table
My brother in law is an investment banker in NY. The idea that the dollar could crash is inconceivable to him. He went to Wharton business school, the same school Trump went to. I think the over arching idea that the dollar cannot collapse is simply because their whole lives revolve around it, and they are too busy to pay attention to anything else. "Eating and drinking until the flood came and swept them all away."


I know a lot of really dumb "smart" people. I coined a phrase regarding people like this, "they can't learn anything because they already know everything." Which is really just a definition of the phrase "know it all", but the reason I started saying that is because people just hear "know it all" and never think about what it means.

This is one of the problems with most JW's. It could never enter into their minds that they might be wrong about something, or that the GB could be wrong, let alone lying.
 

PJ54

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My brother in law is an investment banker in NY. The idea that the dollar could crash is inconceivable to him. He went to Wharton business school, the same school Trump went to. I think the over arching idea that the dollar cannot collapse is simply because their whole lives revolve around it, and they are too busy to pay attention to anything else. "Eating and drinking until the flood came and swept them all away."


I know a lot of really dumb "smart" people. I coined a phrase regarding people like this, "they can't learn anything because they already know everything." Which is really just a definition of the phrase "know it all", but the reason I started saying that is because people just hear "know it all" and never think about what it means.

This is one of the problems with most JW's. It could never enter into their minds that they might be wrong about something, or that the GB could be wrong, let alone lying.
That is a dangerous game they are playing. It's like the born-again's with their rapture doctrine & how they are predestined to be saved. I suppose it's why Jesus said this:
(Matthew 11:25, 26) 25 At that time Jesus said in response: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to babes. 26 Yes, O Father, because to do thus came to be the way approved by you. . .
 

יהוה_saves

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That worked back in the early 80s when the FED jacked interest rates up to 20%. It won't work now though. And why not? Because there is far too much debt based on low-interest rates. That includes the zillions of dollars of junk bonds that bankrupt companies sell to keep them afloat. And of course, the US government is totally dependent upon low-interest rates to service its gargantuan debt.
exactly right. They can’t even service the debt let alone expect to pay down the principle.

Nobody audits the central bank (FED) so we really can only guess how much money they’ve conjured up and lent out at zero bound. it’s much more than we know. the FED’s balance sheet is meaningless at this point. That’s my take on it.

Any rate hike, even 25 basis points (and the FED promises to hike 150 bps at the next FOMC- yeah sure), throws a monkey wrench in the works, especially for developing countries that borrow in euro and dollar demonimated currency.

But here’s the deal- the FED KNOWS it can’t keep the money printing scheme going unless it goes negative on the benchmark rate, because of inherent risk of hyperdeflation- and if and when it does go negative, everything will be transacted cash- and why shouldn’t it be? Why wouldn’t it be? For example, if i were managing, say, an $8 billion pension fund, and the bank imposed neg rates, in order to perform the UTMOST fiduciary duty to my clients i would have to transact in cash. it only makes sense.

But this will cause a run on banks and the banks (the entire financial apparatus that the FED uses to launder its illicitly conjured money that keeps these ghouls in power) will topple and goodbye money printers good bye ghouls. (from a strictly political standpoint)

The FED has painted itself into a corner- its only option is to crash the dollar (and euro), ban cash, and go digital- then theoretically it can adjust its negative rates all day long, in double digits, and there nothing anyone can do about it.

But- there is a problem to their scheme- just as there are laws of gravity, laws of physics, laws of nature, moral laws, ethical laws, there is economic law that governs the time value of money.
Negative interest is an anomaly, a putrification, a mortis- that flies in the face of everything that governs an economy: it is called financial racketeering (theft) and it cannot and will not last.

Beautiful picture! how did i miss this before?

 
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Reading the 52nd chapter of Isaiah, it says of the Messiah: "Just as there were many who stared at him in amazement —For his appearance was disfigured more than that of any other man and his stately form more than that of mankind—so he will startle many nations."

I have heard clueless preachers interpret this passage to say that Jesus was beaten so badly he was unrecognizable. Even the WT inexplicably tries to explain this verse in terms of Jesus the man. For example, the Insight book states: "The Messianic prophecy at Isaiah 52:14, which speaks of “the disfigurement as respects his appearance,” therefore must apply to Jesus the Messiah only in a figurative way. (Compare vs 7 of the same chapter.) Though he was perfect in physical form, the message of truth and righteousness that Jesus Christ boldly proclaimed made him repulsive in the eyes of hypocritical opposers, who claimed to see in him an agent of Beelzebub, a man possessed of a demon, a blasphemous fraud."

No. Jesus was not even figuratively disfigured. Any sober reading of the 52nd chapter of Isaiah reveals the prophecy is not speaking about the man Jesus. Did Jesus "startle many nations" when he walked the earth 2,000 years ago? Obviously not. His disfigurement has to do with his second coming. That is when he will startle the nations; actually, causing them to beat themselves in lamentation.

In what way is Christ disfigured or marred? Humans have no concept of Christ's heavenly glory. And to be sure, the Watchtower has played a significant role in disfiguring Christ by claiming the glorious parousia is invisible, effectively rendering the manifestation of Christ into a non-event.

But needless to say, those few who will be privileged to see Jesus when he is made manifest will stare at him in amazement. Nothing could have prepared them to experience the revelation of the Son of man anyway. Still, there are a few visions recorded in the Bible that provide an approximation of the splendidness of the event. Daniel experienced a foregleam of the manifestation. So did the apostle John. Both fell to the ground as dead men only to be revived by their spirit at whose feet they had fallen.

John described the close encounter this way: "I turned to see who was speaking with me, and when I turned, I saw seven golden lampstands, and in the midst of the lampstands someone like a son of man, clothed in a garment that reached down to the feet and wearing a golden sash around his chest. Moreover, his head and his hair were white as white wool, as snow, and his eyes were like a fiery flame, and his feet were like fine copper when glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of many waters. And he had in his right hand seven stars, and out of his mouth a sharp, long, two-edged sword was protruding, and his countenance was like the sun when it shines at its brightest. When I saw him, I fell as dead at his feet."

The enraptured apostle described the vision as "someone like a son of man." Apparently, the glorified Jesus resembled a human but was/is far more refined and glorious.

 

The God Pill

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Reading the 52nd chapter of Isaiah, it says of the Messiah: "Just as there were many who stared at him in amazement —For his appearance was disfigured more than that of any other man and his stately form more than that of mankind—so he will startle many nations."

I have heard clueless preachers interpret this passage to say that Jesus was beaten so badly he was unrecognizable. Even the WT inexplicably tries to explain this verse in terms of Jesus the man. For example, the Insight book states: "The Messianic prophecy at Isaiah 52:14, which speaks of “the disfigurement as respects his appearance,” therefore must apply to Jesus the Messiah only in a figurative way. (Compare vs 7 of the same chapter.) Though he was perfect in physical form, the message of truth and righteousness that Jesus Christ boldly proclaimed made him repulsive in the eyes of hypocritical opposers, who claimed to see in him an agent of Beelzebub, a man possessed of a demon, a blasphemous fraud."

No. Jesus was not even figuratively disfigured. Any sober reading of the 52nd chapter of Isaiah reveals the prophecy is not speaking about the man Jesus. Did Jesus "startle many nations" when he walked the earth 2,000 years ago? Obviously not. His disfigurement has to do with his second coming. That is when he will startle the nations; actually, causing them to beat themselves in lamentation.

In what way is Christ disfigured or marred? Humans have no concept of Christ's heavenly glory. And to be sure, the Watchtower has played a significant role in disfiguring Christ by claiming the glorious parousia is invisible, effectively rendering the manifestation of Christ into a non-event.

But needless to say, those few who will be privileged to see Jesus when he is made manifest will stare at him in amazement. Nothing could have prepared them to experience the revelation of the Son of man anyway. Still, there are a few visions recorded in the Bible that provide an approximation of the splendidness of the event. Daniel experienced a foregleam of the manifestation. So did the apostle John. Both fell to the ground as dead men only to be revived by their spirit at whose feet they had fallen.

John described the close encounter this way: "I turned to see who was speaking with me, and when I turned, I saw seven golden lampstands, and in the midst of the lampstands someone like a son of man, clothed in a garment that reached down to the feet and wearing a golden sash around his chest. Moreover, his head and his hair were white as white wool, as snow, and his eyes were like a fiery flame, and his feet were like fine copper when glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of many waters. And he had in his right hand seven stars, and out of his mouth a sharp, long, two-edged sword was protruding, and his countenance was like the sun when it shines at its brightest. When I saw him, I fell as dead at his feet."

The enraptured apostle described the vision as "someone like a son of man." Apparently, the glorified Jesus resembled a human but was/is far more refined and glorious.

Some of the part on the suffering servant of a book I finished last week is very in harmony with your observations here. 😁 I'll paste an excerpt to support your post.

"This verse has significantly different forms in the ancient versions. The MT and the Targum, which used the MT, say he was disfigured beyond human semblance, such that people were astonished (thus RSV). The Qumran Isaiah scroll,69 however, has ‘he was anointed beyond human semblance’ such that kings and people were astonished. The difference is one letter: mšt in the MT and mšty in the Qumran scroll. The Servant ‘anointed beyond human semblance’ means he was transfigured, and so, he became like one of the glorious ones. The Targum mentions this later, that the Servant would look different from an ordinary man because he would have a holy brightness, ziyw.70 So shall he startle many nations; Kings shall shut their mouths because of him; For that which has not been told them they shall see And that which they have not heard they shall understand. (Isa. 52.15) The Servant ‘startles’ many nations, thus AV and RSV, but the MT actually has ‘sprinkles’, yazzeh, the action of the high priest on the day of atonement (Lev. 16.14 has the same word).71 The Greek of Aquila also has ‘sprinkle’, rhantisei. Then the kings were astonished and recognized him"

"The words ‘form’, to’ar, and ‘comeliness’, hādār, may be wordplay, because to’ar means, literally, ‘a shape drawn in outline’, and so similar to demut; and hādār would be better translated ‘majesty’ or ‘splendour’. These the Servant lacked, and yet the Targum emphasized the opposite: ‘His appearance shall not be that of a common man, nor the fear of him that of an ordinary man; but his brightness shall be a holy brightness"
 
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Some of the part on the suffering servant of a book I finished last week is very in harmony with your observations here. 😁 I'll paste an excerpt to support your post.

"This verse has significantly different forms in the ancient versions. The MT and the Targum, which used the MT, say he was disfigured beyond human semblance, such that people were astonished (thus RSV). The Qumran Isaiah scroll,69 however, has ‘he was anointed beyond human semblance’ such that kings and people were astonished. The difference is one letter: mšt in the MT and mšty in the Qumran scroll. The Servant ‘anointed beyond human semblance’ means he was transfigured, and so, he became like one of the glorious ones. The Targum mentions this later, that the Servant would look different from an ordinary man because he would have a holy brightness, ziyw.70 So shall he startle many nations; Kings shall shut their mouths because of him; For that which has not been told them they shall see And that which they have not heard they shall understand. (Isa. 52.15) The Servant ‘startles’ many nations, thus AV and RSV, but the MT actually has ‘sprinkles’, yazzeh, the action of the high priest on the day of atonement (Lev. 16.14 has the same word).71 The Greek of Aquila also has ‘sprinkle’, rhantisei. Then the kings were astonished and recognized him"

"The words ‘form’, to’ar, and ‘comeliness’, hādār, may be wordplay, because to’ar means, literally, ‘a shape drawn in outline’, and so similar to demut; and hādār would be better translated ‘majesty’ or ‘splendour’. These the Servant lacked, and yet the Targum emphasized the opposite: ‘His appearance shall not be that of a common man, nor the fear of him that of an ordinary man; but his brightness shall be a holy brightness"
Cool. I am happy to have some confirmation. Can I get an amen, brother?

Seriously, thanks for posting that.
 

The God Pill

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Cool. I am happy to have some confirmation. Can I get an amen, brother?

Seriously, thanks for posting that.
Absolutely. Positive feedback means a lot from you Robert you have such a command of the scriptures it's rare that I can really further reinforce them. We're all grateful for you sharing your findings from the gift of interpretation with those with eyes to see and ears to hear over the years.
 

Truth_Seeker

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I understand that the answer of Isaiah 53:13-15 is in the next chapter.

"Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high. As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men: so shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider."
Isaiah 52:13‭-‬15

"He grew up like a sapling before him, like a shoot from the parched earth; He had no majestic bearing to catch our eye, no beauty to draw us to him. He was spurned and avoided by men, a man of suffering, knowing pain, Like one from whom you turn your face, spurned, and we held him in no esteem. Yet it was our pain that he bore, our sufferings he endured. We thought of him as stricken, struck down by God and afflicted, But he was pierced for our sins, crushed for our iniquity. He bore the punishment that makes us whole, by his wounds we were healed. We had all gone astray like sheep, all following our own way; But the Lord laid upon him the guilt of us all. Though harshly treated, he submitted and did not open his mouth; Like a lamb led to slaughter or a sheep silent before shearers, he did not open his mouth. Seized and condemned, he was taken away. Who would have thought any more of his destiny? For he was cut off from the land of the living, struck for the sins of his people. He was given a grave among the wicked, a burial place with evildoers, Though he had done no wrong, nor was deceit found in his mouth. But it was the Lord’s will to crush him with pain. By making his life as a reparation offering, he shall see his offspring, shall lengthen his days, and the Lord’s will shall be accomplished through him. Because of his anguish he shall see the light; because of his knowledge he shall be content; My servant, the just one, shall justify the many, their iniquity he shall bear. Therefore I will give him his portion among the many, and he shall divide the spoils with the mighty, Because he surrendered himself to death, was counted among the transgressors, Bore the sins of many, and interceded for the transgressors."
Isaiah 53:2‭-‬12

"Have among yourselves the same attitude that is also yours in Christ Jesus, Who, though he was in the form of God, did not regard equality with God something to be grasped. Rather, he emptied himself, taking the form of a slave, coming in human likeness; and found human in appearance, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, even death on a cross. Because of this, God greatly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bend, of those in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Obedience and Service in the World."
Philippians 2:5‭-‬11

"in these last days, he spoke to us through a son, whom he made heir of all things and through whom he created the universe, who is the refulgence of his glory, the very imprint of his being, and who sustains all things by his mighty word. When he had accomplished purification from sins, he took his seat at the right hand of the Majesty on high, as far superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs. Messianic Enthronement. For to which of the angels did God ever say: “You are my son; this day I have begotten you”? Or again: “I will be a father to him, and he shall be a son to me”? And again, when he leads the first-born into the world, he says: “Let all the angels of God worship him.” Of the angels he says: “He makes his angels winds and his ministers a fiery flame”; but of the Son: “Your throne, O God, stands forever and ever; and a righteous scepter is the scepter of your kingdom. You loved justice and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, anointed you with the oil of gladness above your companions”; But to which of the angels has he ever said: “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool”? Are they not all ministering spirits sent to serve, for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation?"
Hebrews 1:2‭-‬9‭, ‬13‭-‬14

"I saw no temple in the city, for its temple is the Lord God almighty and the Lamb. The city had no need of sun or moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gave it light, and its lamp was the Lamb. The nations will walk by its light, and to it the kings of the earth will bring their treasure."
Revelation 21:22‭-‬24
 

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There is a new Update on JW Broadcast. The GB is proudly announcing that they have permitted pre-approved JWs to stand on a street corner again, provided that they are wearing masks. Even though the videos show passersby on the street walking about mask-free, as virtually all normal people are now, all the JWs stationed at their information carts are wearing masks. It is as if they are determined to demonstrate their obedience to the UN's medical tyranny, even at the expense of their own dignity. Extreme virtual signaling. It is incredible how much power the exalted 8 have over 8 million JWs.

The Update then discusses recent rulings by European Human Rights Court in favor of JWs. Phillip Brumley and his legal team, the same group of lawyers that have been fighting relentlessly to crush the legal complaints of child sexual abuse victims and shut their mouths with gag orders, hailed it as a great theocratic victory over Russia. The ruling of the European Human Rights Court has no doubt been influenced by the presence of numerous Watchtower NGOs in Europe over the past 20 years that were set up for the express purpose of influencing government officials. Although the WT attornies hailed the ruling as a resounding legal victory handed down by Jehovah God himself, the situation in Russia has not changed and is not likely to in the future. Ironically, just last month the Russian parliament voted to withdraw from the so-called human rights organization. World opinion has no influence over the decisions made by Russia.


I am reminded of the 127th Psalm that says: "Unless Jehovah guards the city, it is in vain that the guard stays awake." It doesn't matter what a human court rules. Unless God actually intervenes human help is useless. Some day perhaps the leadership of Jehovah's Witnesses will learn that lesson. Or, maybe not.

 
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There is a new Update on JW Broadcast. The GB is proudly announcing that they have permitted pre-approved JWs to stand on a street corner again, provided that they are wearing masks. Even though the videos show passersby on the street walking about mask-free, as virtually all normal people are now, all the JWs stationed at their information carts are wearing masks. It is as if they are determined to demonstrate their obedience to the UN's medical tyranny, even at the expense of their own dignity. Extreme virtual signaling. It is incredible how much power the exalted 8 have over 8 million JWs.

The Update then discusses recent rulings by European Human Rights Court in favor of JWs. Phillip Brumley and his legal team, the same group of lawyers that have been fighting relentlessly to crush the legal complaints of child sexual abuse victims and shut their mouths with gag orders, hailed it as a great theocratic victory over Russia. The ruling of the European Human Rights Court has no doubt been influenced by the presence of numerous Watchtower NGOs in Europe over the past 20 years that were set up for the express purpose of influencing government officials. Although the WT attornies hailed the ruling as a resounding legal victory handed down by Jehovah God himself, the situation in Russia has not changed and is not likely to in the future. Ironically, just last month the Russian parliament voted to withdraw from the so-called human rights organization. World opinion has no influence over the decisions made by Russia.


I am reminded of the 127th Psalm that says: "Unless Jehovah guards the city, it is in vain that the guard stays awake." It doesn't matter what a human court rules. Unless God actually intervenes human help is useless. Some day perhaps the leadership of Jehovah's Witnesses will learn that lesson. Or, maybe not.

It is rather like us. We have no idea how thins are going to pan out for us. Only that it will have a beginning and an end. Paul H picture of prison ships is rather telling.
 

kenmuldoon55

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And this side of the Atlantic Ocean fares no better.
Virtually every decision coming out of Washington since Biden’s handlers put him in control has served to consolidate wealth into the hands of the few political elite while wrecking the economy of America as aptly prophesied. at Isaiah 19
11The princes of Zoan are complete fools
The counsel of the Pharaoh’s wisest advisors has become stupid.
 

BagdadBill

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Patience has never been my strength. For far too long I could be described as impetuous. Honestly, I wish they would just come in guns a blazin but apparently there are things that need to be done before the system crashes. The closer we get, the more scripture makes sense or fits into it's place. Some in repetition or greater fulfillment but then there are some which haven't been as clear to me.
Lately this clown, Yuval Harari has been making the rounds on the video trail and his attitude reminds me of the others who have gone up against Jehovah and thought to insult him as well. Yuval not only declares that God doesn't exist or is fake news but, then he turns and declares that he and his elitist friends will all become gods and live forever.
Now that is a bold statement from anyone. If he becomes a god then surely he can build a planet with his bare hands or maybe invent and create a new species merely by thinking it into existence, and then blowing the breath of life into it. If he becomes a god then he ought to be able to prevent Revelation 16:9 if that proves to be literal. From the looks of things, I would guess it to be so.
Even Nebuchadnezzar after being humbled, toned down his attitude a bit but then along comes Belshazzar and decides to show who is boss. Some things repeat themselves. Pride and arrogance seem to be the most prevalent of those.

Humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God.....cast all your anxiety on Him because He cares for you.
 
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