What blasphemy!

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Nomex said:
I think you are 100 % on the mark. I think one of the reasons we don't really know what people are thinking is because they all know if you have any even slightly dissenting opinion of what the GB says, you're automatically labeled an "apostate" so we all self censor. Even to the point even if we know someone at least partially have a sense of what's going on, we are hesitant to bring the subject up.
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The GB can shut people up, but they can't change people's minds and hearts. People know what they know. I think many JWs are 'quiet quitting'.
 
Nomex said:
I think you are 100 % on the mark. I think one of the reasons we don't really know what people are thinking is because they all know if you have any even slightly dissenting opinion of what the GB says, you're automatically labeled an "apostate" so we all self censor. Even to the point even if we know someone at least partially have a sense of what's going on, we are hesitant to bring the subject up.
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You're right!
 
a watcher said:
The GB can shut people up, but they can't change people's minds and hearts. People know what they know. I think many JWs are 'quiet quitting'.
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Perhaps part of what is happening, is Jehovah is allowing this so people can see for themselves, what the GB is doing and what they really are, so when the "plastered wall" comes completely down, they will at least be partially ready. I would think that, even the most brainwashed JW has a good heart, and of course they think they are serving God, so when Jehovah lifts the veil, hopefully they will see the truth. Also, I think it will force the hypocrites to oust themselves as well. I suspect there will be those who no matter the evidence, will never admit they have been fooled!
 
Nomex said:
Here's the actual video where he says it!!!

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Nomex said:
Here's the actual video where he says it!!!

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Sure, and listening to me and my buddy's is as if you're listening to Yosemite Sam himself..
The arrogance of these men is getting outrageous..Since he said listening to the Governing body, is the same as listening to Jesus, does that mean Jesus secretly tells his brothers to cover over child rape in the congregations or he commands his shepards to sell what has been dedicated to Jehovah? . I'd kindly remind him of Psalm 146:3
Do not put your trust in princes,
in human beings, who cannot save.
4 When their spirit departs, they return to the ground.. if he tries to rebutt that, he can blow it out his ass!
 
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I suspect this thread may end up being one of the longer threads....there is so much material here! I mean, you have elevated yourselves to Christ himself, Christ, who most "Christians" believe is actually God, this cannot possibly end well. Oh, but it will be "persecution" from anyone who pushes back on this. That, or you're an apostate. This would be hilarious if it wasn't so serious!
 
Revvzone said:
Do not put your trust in princes,
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They are not "Princes" they are Christ himself! That's what "the voice of Christ" means. How many times does the Bible say Jehovah "gave instruction" but it was "through an angel." We now have the definition, in case you had any doubt, what "Jehovah's channel" means. The GB, are literally Christ himself! If you had any doubt just ask them!

I'm thinking they may be even more arrogant than the Devil himself. Satan was actually perfect. Created perfect by Jehovah God. He was so perfect it was literally his perfection that made him arrogant and led to his fall. WHAT EXACTLY, has made the GB this arrogant???? It's not perfection, they just removed Tony Morris, and then pretended they didn't remove Tony Morris. So it's not that they are right all the time.


Satan, when he rebelled, had never been wrong before. He was perfect. So, we can kind of get it, why someone like that could be seduced into thinking they could not be wrong. But the GB, their only evidence of them being who they claim to be, is them claiming to be who they claim to be. We have to take them at their word. At least Satan, was once perfect. Think of the arrogance of these people. They think they have out smarted Satan!

Satan, who was born perfect, has lived who knows how long, and yet the GB, have it all figured out. As if Satan doesn't know what the Bible says. They understand it better than Satan?


I had a friend of mine tell me Satan and the demons couldn't read the Bible, that's what "Tartarus" means! And all I could think of is, "there is no way you are this stupid." And yet they are! Truly remarkable. Part of me has lost all faith in humanity!
 
Nomex said:
I think you are 100 % on the mark. I think one of the reasons we don't really know what people are thinking is because they all know if you have any even slightly dissenting opinion of what the GB says, you're automatically labeled an "apostate" so we all self censor. Even to the point even if we know someone at least partially have a sense of what's going on, we are hesitant to bring the subject up.
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Jahrule said:
I met an older lady today who told me she goes to this special church. Honestly, she was kinda weird. But she did later clarify she was talking about Jehovah's Witnesses. Oh interesting. I said. I'm a JW too. I'm just not affiliated with the Watchtower. Strangely enough, saying that didn't seem weird to her at all. It's almost like she already understood. So yeah, very weird interaction. The only JW I ever talked to who almost implicitly agreed with me. I think there's a lot more people on the inside who get it, even if they don't fully understand it consciously. The organization may be pushing more people away than they realize.
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I was recently at a friends workplace. I can tell you they are glad they can express themselves around me. While having the conversation, the dad made it clear that having such a conversation around the "friends" would have them label us "apostate". It really sad since the Org has really become stiff necked like Israel.
 
Nomex said:
They are not "Princes" they are Christ himself! That's what "the voice of Christ" means. How many times does the Bible say Jehovah "gave instruction" but it was "through an angel." We now have the definition, in case you had any doubt, what "Jehovah's channel" means. The GB, are literally Christ himself! If you had any doubt just ask them!

I'm thinking they may be even more arrogant than the Devil himself. Satan was actually perfect. Created perfect by Jehovah God. He was so perfect it was literally his perfection that made him arrogant and led to his fall. WHAT EXACTLY, has made the GB this arrogant???? It's not perfection, they just removed Tony Morris, and then pretended they didn't remove Tony Morris. So it's not that they are right all the time.


Satan, when he rebelled, had never been wrong before. He was perfect. So, we can kind of get it, why someone like that could be seduced into thinking they could not be wrong. But the GB, their only evidence of them being who they claim to be, is them claiming to be who they claim to be. We have to take them at their word. At least Satan, was once perfect. Think of the arrogance of these people. They think they have out smarted Satan!

Satan, who was born perfect, has lived who knows how long, and yet the GB, have it all figured out. As if Satan doesn't know what the Bible says. They understand it better than Satan?


I had a friend of mine tell me Satan and the demons couldn't read the Bible, that's what "Tartarus" means! And all I could think of is, "there is no way you are this stupid." And yet they are! Truly remarkable. Part of me has lost all faith in humanity!
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2Cor 11:13-15 'For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.' And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps disguising himself as an angel of light. It is therefore nothing extraordinary if his ministers also keep disguising themselves as ministers of righteousness. But their end will be according to their works.

Just a little time more.........
 
Nomex said:
They are not "Princes" they are Christ himself! That's what "the voice of Christ" means. How many times does the Bible say Jehovah "gave instruction" but it was "through an angel." We now have the definition, in case you had any doubt, what "Jehovah's channel" means. The GB, are literally Christ himself! If you had any doubt just ask them!

I'm thinking they may be even more arrogant than the Devil himself. Satan was actually perfect. Created perfect by Jehovah God. He was so perfect it was literally his perfection that made him arrogant and led to his fall. WHAT EXACTLY, has made the GB this arrogant???? It's not perfection, they just removed Tony Morris, and then pretended they didn't remove Tony Morris. So it's not that they are right all the time.


Satan, when he rebelled, had never been wrong before. He was perfect. So, we can kind of get it, why someone like that could be seduced into thinking they could not be wrong. But the GB, their only evidence of them being who they claim to be, is them claiming to be who they claim to be. We have to take them at their word. At least Satan, was once perfect. Think of the arrogance of these people. They think they have out smarted Satan!

Satan, who was born perfect, has lived who knows how long, and yet the GB, have it all figured out. As if Satan doesn't know what the Bible says. They understand it better than Satan?


I had a friend of mine tell me Satan and the demons couldn't read the Bible, that's what "Tartarus" means! And all I could think of is, "there is no way you are this stupid." And yet they are! Truly remarkable. Part of me has lost all faith in humanity!
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Eh...it's easy to get perturbed at these pathetic fools.. So, as a Dr. of perfectly good ideas, I'm prescribing the following for the Governing Body..They should each be strapped in straight jacket, given round the clock apple cider vinegar enemas, while getting their lying mouths washed out with Ivory soap.. If that doesn't change the "I'm Jesus " hallucinations, I'll prescribed something for thier brains, perhaps 72hrs of MR Roger's Neighborhood, accompanied by Sesame Sreet and weekly therapy hr with Dr Phill...
 
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Nomex said:
I think you are 100 % on the mark. I think one of the reasons we don't really know what people are thinking is because they all know if you have any even slightly dissenting opinion of what the GB says, you're automatically labeled an "apostate" so we all self censor. Even to the point even if we know someone at least partially have a sense of what's going on, we are hesitant to bring the subject up.
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You know, I realized something about 3 months ago. I didn't understand things until I reviewed the "Societies" take on the new covenant. That made a world of difference. :)
 
SusanB said:
I think the new video that prompted this thread is evidence that they are feeling the “burn”.
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Indeed. Think about what level of desperation they have found themselves in, to come right out and say, "we are the same as Jesus." Albeit understood, they used their typical weasel words to say what they wanted to say, but still be able to deny that what they said, is what they said!
"No they didn't say they are the same as Jesus, they said, they can be likened to Jesus voice." As if there is any difference. All the while they know all too well, the point has been made, "Jesus, speaks through us, obey us or die, this means you are obeying Jesus, and Jehovah himself." And all the weak minded minions will go right along and not give it a second thought. "Kiss the son lest God be angry, and you perish in the way."


"Kiss the GB, lest you perish." "New Lite"!
 
Nomex said:
I think you are 100 % on the mark. I think one of the reasons we don't really know what people are thinking is because they all know if you have any even slightly dissenting opinion of what the GB says, you're automatically labeled an "apostate" so we all self censor. Even to the point even if we know someone at least partially have a sense of what's going on, we are hesitant to bring the subject up.
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But remember Jesus’s words at Matthew 15:14
“Let them be. Blind guides is what they are. If, then, a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”

I hope many will wake up before it’s too late. Quite a few loved ones in my family are still following their lead.
 
Nomex said:
“No they didn't say they are the same as Jesus, they said, they can be likened to Jesus voice." As if there is any difference
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You’re right Nomex, there’s not a difference. It’s very subtle, like everything else they say but those following don’t seem to think of it that way.

Google said this:
“likened to; likening to; likens to. : to describe (someone or something) as similar to (someone or something else)“

Like I said, very subtle…
 
KevinB said:
They are hypocrites according to their own words.

*** w07 4/1 pp. 26-27 par. 3 Humbly Submitting to Loving Shepherds *** (Before change)
In this time of the end, Jesus Christ, the Greater David, is the “one shepherd” whom Jehovah has appointed over all His servants on earth, both the spirit-anointed Christians and the “other sheep.”—John 10:16.The change
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I've seen this before. Groups in big companies do this. They often have multiple ones to reduce the TTM(Time to market), the second one takes the rein from the first one and continue developing it. The different teams disagree though. So they flip flop things. Internal conflict.

I wonder if that's what's going on? There are those that really try, so you get the articles that make sense sometimes, and in other times it directly contradicts it. They should rebrand themselves as Jehovah's Witnesses LTD. Stock symbol = JWT(S&P 500). IPO happens in Jan 1, 2030.
Eventhorizon said:
Oh its definitely approved - its part of the plan brainwashing for the “strange and illogical” instructions ahead.
Maybe only a few R&F fathom the C19 jab problems that are due to GB mandate. So sad to see in their minds 1+1=1
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It makes a lot of sense.
Jahrule said:
The organization may be pushing more people away than they realize.
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Man, this is worse than what it looks like. They are tarnishing the name of Jehovah God. How many are going to look at the Jehovah's Witnesses organization in disgust!?

I have to tell people that I used to be a JW but not anymore. Now I will have to do it outright. For some we look like the most insignificant crazies and JWs think that too.
 
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DavidCJ said:
I've seen this before. Groups in big companies do this. They often have multiple ones to reduce the TTM(Time to market), the second one takes the rein from the first one and continue developing it. The different teams disagree though. So they flip flop things. Internal conflict.

I wonder if that's what's going on? There are those that really try, so you get the articles that make sense sometimes, and in other times it directly contradicts it. They should rebrand themselves as Jehovah's Witnesses LTD. Stock symbol = JWT(S&P 500). IPO happens in Jan 1, 2030.

It makes a lot of sense.

Man, this is worse than what it looks like. They are tarnishing the name of Jehovah God. How many are going to look at the Jehovah's Witnesses organization in disgust!?

I have to tell people that I used to be a JW but not anymore. Now I will have to do it outright. For some we look like the most insignificant crazies and JWs think that too.
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I understand exactly what you are saying. It is beyond embarrassing for me. I can't think of a better word right now. I had to explain some stuff to non witness family members who are staunch church goers. Several offered to send me recorded copies ot their sermons from Sundays 🤯 🤯. They have for years thought I was lost spiritually☺ .

They were not mad they just had that oh my Auntie needs help look. Can you imagine.

Yes gb are truly "feeling the burn "🔥 .

Can you feel the yoke getting tighter and heavier. At some point in wt language they will out right say get totally on board and obey or get out.

Elders, CO'S will be given directions to keep alert. Can you say Shepherding calls, visits ......
"Oh we just want to check on you to make sure you are ok we love and miss you". (Eyes rolling, head spinning).

Should be very interesting in coming days. Just my opinion.
 
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