Body Sovereignty

Jess

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When they stopped with the mask "strongly recommended" which was just code for "required", which also demonstrates what hypocrites they really are, because they know they do not have authority over God's people to "require" something like that so they use coercion instead, which is the cowards way of getting what they want, instead of making it an actual choice, and to demonstrate it was not actually a choice, no one removed their mask until Oct 1st. It's like they just keep exposing themselves not matter what now, they just can't help it now.


Any way, to my point about this comment. We talked it over whether we would resume "in person meetings". I think i have posted this already, but we know a sister who got Covid and almost died of remdesivir, but she actually believes it was Covid. She also "knows" she got Covid from a co-worked not wearing a mask. The point here is that anyone who "gets Covid", dies because of Remdesivir, old age or whatever else, is going to be blamed on the unvaccinated, and the unmasked. So sorry, I want no part of their in person meetings.
This was my feeling as well. I recently had a visit from some friends in the hall and they were too scared to even come in my home when invited. There was also another sister who sat in the service group car in my driveway and refused to get out to say hello or give a proper loving “agape” love introduction as I had never met any of them before in person. I would NEVER have not gotten out of a car to meet one of the friends. Anyway, confirmed to me too that I can’t go back in person. Being the only one with the Scarlett letter outed as “unvaxxed” I would for sure feel at risk for being the perfect scapegoat for anything that occurs with regards to new cases of COVID or illness 🙄
 

Nomex

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I was just thinking about this also...to make a statement that this "vaccine" is safe and effective, and then to use strong arm tactics to try to force me and my family to take this vaccine really was the last straw. Why? Let's just start with the fact that this vaccine has not been approved by the FDA, that in fact making that claim was another lie, and it is a vaccine administered with EUA. All that aside, I don't and haven't believed FDA approved vaccines that have been used for decades are safe and effective either. Back in the early 90's Congress set up what many people call the "secret vaccine court", because pharma companies were getting sued so much because of vaccine injuries, they threatened to stop making vaccines. So what did the government that loves you so much do. They gave pharma companies liability immunity from vaccine injuries, added a tax to vaccines to fund the "vaccine injury fund", and if you are injured or killed by a vaccine, you have to sue the government for damages, which are funded by the excise tax on the vaccines, that you fund by getting vaccinated. Oh and because they are such devious liars its an excise tax to make it look like Pharma is paying the tax, and they pretend Pharma cannot simply raise the price of the vaccines and make you pay for it anyway.


This is who the GB believes have manufactured a vaccine that "Jehovah would not allow them to take if it was harmful." Satan must have laughed out loud when they said that!!!
 

Nomex

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I would NEVER have not gotten out of a car to meet one of the friends. Anyway, confirmed to me too that I can’t go back in person. Being the only one with the Scarlett letter outed as “unvaxxed” I would for sure feel at risk for being the perfect scapegoat for anything that occurs
It's so "unifying"...LOL! Thinking about everything though makes me realize this was all inevitable. There was never really "agape love" for the vast majority of the "friends."
 

Ms_ladyblue

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This was my feeling as well. I recently had a visit from some friends in the hall and they were too scared to even come in my home when invited. There was also another sister who sat in the service group car in my driveway and refused to get out to say hello or give a proper loving “agape” love introduction as I had never met any of them before in person. I would NEVER have not gotten out of a car to meet one of the friends. Anyway, confirmed to me too that I can’t go back in person. Being the only one with the Scarlett letter outed as “unvaxxed” I would for sure feel at risk for being the perfect scapegoat for anything that occurs with regards to new cases of COVID or illness 🙄
You’re exactly right Jess. I thought about this after they started in person meetings. I‘m sure if there were cases they would start to ask who’s not vaccinated…then right away we’d get booted out! 🙄
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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A podcast that I listen to brought up an interesting point regarding the mask and vaccines mandates. Some of us knew all long but others are now just becoming aware that these mandates were never about health but instead are about body sovereignty. The vaccines and masks, either knowingly or by trickery, are symbols that someone else is master over our body. We cannot allow that to happen if we have dedicated our lives to Jehovah. Perhaps that is why Jehovah did not allow the Israelites to make cuts on their bodies or tattoo their bodies. Here are some relevant scriptures:

Leviticus 19:27-28: “You must not shave the hair on the side of your head or disfigure the edges of your beard. “‘You must not make cuts in your flesh for a dead person, and you must not make tattoo markings on yourselves. I am Jehovah”.

Deuteronomy 14:1: “You are sons of Jehovah your God. Do not cut yourselves or shave your foreheads bald for a dead person“.

Romans 6:16: “Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey, either of sin leading to death or of obedience leading to righteousness?”

Deuteronomy 23:1: “No man who has been castrated by having his testicles crushed or who has had his male organ cut off may come into the congregation of Jehovah.”


Also I found it interesting that any man with a “defect” could not approach Jehovah’s altar. I think perhaps this is why many brothers and sisters are concerned about damaging their DNA with the vaccines. We know that Jehovah can and will heal us if we are faithful but that doesn’t mean that we should degrade ourselves willingly.

Leviticus 21:16-23: “Jehovah continued to speak to Moses, saying: “Tell Aaron, ‘No man of your offspring throughout their generations who has a defect may approach to present the bread of his God. If there is any man who has a defect, he may not approach: a man who is blind or lame or has a disfigured face or one limb too long, a man with a fractured foot or a fractured hand, a hunchback or a dwarf, or a man with an eye defect or eczema or ringworm or damaged testicles. No man of the offspring of Aaron the priest who has a defect may approach to present Jehovah’s offerings made by fire. Because he has a defect, he may not approach to present the bread of his God. He may eat the bread of his God from the most holy things and from the holy things. However, he may not come near the curtain, and he may not approach the altar, because there is a defect in him; and he should not profane my sanctuary, for I am Jehovah, who is sanctifying them.’”
I’m not sure about this. Before Christ and during the time that Jehovah had a people dedicated to Him, and mankind’s imperfection was dealt with in a different way than it is today. Therefore, being representatives of the Creator, they were required to be a people apart from all other nations and this was reflected not only in dress, but in matters of physical health. This included circumcision as an identifying mark. If that is not an issue of sovereignty over the body, I don’t know what is.

Today, we have mastery over our bodies in other areas. Health has always been a divisive issue and that bridge the divide BC and AD such as leprosy. Racism is another, religion, the list is endless and vaccines are part of that. Our whole life is dominated by modern slavery to the state and its greatest renovation in control is on our doorstep now. Food retailers decide what Additives we eat so that they can profit more from longer lasting food and the medical drug manufacturers have been poisoning us since time began. It may not seem apparent that we are enslaved to the state, but we are. What the problem is that there are too many off us. When they have thinned us out, the control will still be there.
 

SusanB

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I’m not sure about this. Before Christ and during the time that Jehovah had a people dedicated to Him, and mankind’s imperfection was dealt with in a different way than it is today. Therefore, being representatives of the Creator, they were required to be a people apart from all other nations and this was reflected not only in dress, but in matters of physical health. This included circumcision as an identifying mark. If that is not an issue of sovereignty over the body, I don’t know what is.

Today, we have mastery over our bodies in other areas. Health has always been a divisive issue and that bridge the divide BC and AD such as leprosy. Racism is another, religion, the list is endless and vaccines are part of that. Our whole life is dominated by modern slavery to the state and its greatest renovation in control is on our doorstep now. Food retailers decide what Additives we eat so that they can profit more from longer lasting food and the medical drug manufacturers have been poisoning us since time began. It may not seem apparent that we are enslaved to the state, but we are. What the problem is that there are too many off us. When they have thinned us out, the control will still be there.
I certainly agree that our Creator has sovereignty over our body but he does allow each individual to also choose things they put into their bodies. What he doesn’t approve of is other imperfect humans to make those decisions for others. We are under a government that is in fact ruled by Satan and so at the moment bad actors are allowed to tyrannize people, even to the point of bodily sovereignty and they will come into judgment for it. But my point is that if we are dedicated to Jehovah we won’t willingly risk our life at the request of Satan’s minions.
 
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Ms_ladyblue

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After reading @Driven and @BARNABY THE DOG. previous comments on this thread I couldn’t help but think about information I found over a year ago that explains how these vaccines are not only injuring and killing people but they’re also being injected with a manmade genetic vax of which, because of the potential for genetic changes, may have implications involving patents and intellectual property… In other words THEY WILL BE OWNED BY BIG PHARMA!

 
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PJ54

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After reading @Driven and @BARNABY THE DOG. previous comments on this thread I couldn’t help but think about information I found over a year ago that explains how these vaccines are not only injuring and killing people but also they’re being injected with a manmade genetic vax which, because of the potential for genetic changes, may have implications involving patents and intellectual property… In other words THEY WILL BE OWNED BY BIG PHARMA!

If that's the case, the constitution is out the window & it's maritime law from that point from the looks of it.
 

Ms_ladyblue

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If that's the case, the constitution is out the window & it's maritime law from that point from the looks of it.
PJ, once the governments put in place all their policies March 2020 the constitution went out the window. Just about every state government broke all kind of laws in the constitution.

This government is descending slowly for now….then comes the crash!!! That probably goes for all the governments of this world too.

Anyway, the fact that they would actually put a patent in the jab so as to claim ownership of that person is in and of itself so demonic. Who would’ve ever thought man would go this far.
But as Jehovah inspired Solomon to write:

“All of this I have seen, and I applied my heart to every work that has been done under the sun, during the time that man has dominated man to his injury.”

Only Jehovah will be able to undo all this chaos and mess we’re in.

Jehovah…let your Kingdom come soon! 🙏
 

BagdadBill

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I don't and haven't believed FDA approved vaccines that have been used for decades are safe and effective either.
This has been the career of Robert F Kennedy Jr for the last 30 years. Really he hasn't made much progress but that is an indicator of what he is up against and the money behind the power. RFK is not anti-vaccine. He just wants honest testing end proof that they are even necessary.
I was in a conversation with a nurse who swears by masks and covid injections. She walked away while I continued to talk to her husband who would clearly do or say anything as long as she doesn't cut him off in the bedroom. I didn't call her a liar and neither did she but I didn't tell her what I really thought. What for?
They stopped listening a long time ago. This isn't about sickness nor is it even about this single series of injections. It's about convincing the people to give away their right to say no.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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After reading @Driven and @BARNABY THE DOG. previous comments on this thread I couldn’t help but think about information I found over a year ago that explains how these vaccines are not only injuring and killing people but they’re also being injected with a manmade genetic vax of which, because of the potential for genetic changes, may have implications involving patents and intellectual property… In other words THEY WILL BE OWNED BY BIG PHARMA!

For some time now, since the decline of this world has become clear to me I have been taking the sage advice not to go looking for trouble. It does me little good to ponder on the evil machinations of this world, it’s greed and avarice, it’s pain and suffering and worse, it use of the defenceless. It defies description, as do the accounts of those liberating armies of the Second World War that liberated Belsen etc, or the chap who witnessed and survived Hiroshima. I don’t get involved in the detail. It does nothing other than drag me down, scare me, and make me doubt all the more, the intentions of others. I don’t want that in my life - perhaps a strange thing to say, given my past secular job, but it did teach me that lesson, so well. It is more beneficial to me to indulge my time in things spiritual, which is rare and precious, than reside in the dross of this world where everything is pain. The former has given me hope and faith. The latter serves to tear it back from my grasp.
 

Ms_ladyblue

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For some time now, since the decline of this world has become clear to me I have been taking the sage advice not to go looking for trouble. It does me little good to ponder on the evil machinations of this world, it’s greed and avarice, it’s pain and suffering and worse, it use of the defenceless. It defies description, as do the accounts of those liberating armies of the Second World War that liberated Belsen etc, or the chap who witnessed and survived Hiroshima. I don’t get involved in the detail. It does nothing other than drag me down, scare me, and make me doubt all the more, the intentions of others. I don’t want that in my life - perhaps a strange thing to say, given my past secular job, but it did teach me that lesson, so well. It is more beneficial to me to indulge my time in things spiritual, which is rare and precious, than reside in the dross of this world where everything is pain. The former has given me hope and faith. The latter serves to tear it back from my grasp.
While reading your comment BTD…somehow I could ‘hear’ you saying this in your distinct British accent. 🤔
But really, in all seriousness, I know you’re right. It’s just that I have this strange tendency to want to learn about what’s going on in the news concerning covid world. Back in 2020, I really got immersed in this because of all the weird things happening around us and I needed to know what we WEREN’T BEING TOLD in the news.

So, needless to say, I’ve done much better these days so as not to become so engrossed in research…and I’ve have toned it down quite a bit. I must add, that this info was just what I referred to as getting an ‘update’ on this particular topic…as I haven’t been keeping up with it as much. Most of the news I can get here on the forum and feel it’s been just as, if not, more informative. I do agree though, that spending time in things spiritual is definitely more beneficial…it brings about a certain calmness in me that I really need during this time, and more importantly it builds my faith.


Thanks BTD, for your loving reminders. It only shows that you care, and that’s a wonderful quality.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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While reading your comment BTD…somehow I could ‘hear’ you saying this in your distinct British accent. 🤔
But really, in all seriousness, I know you’re right. It’s just that I have this strange tendency to want to learn about what’s going on in the news concerning covid world. Back in 2020, I really got immersed in this because of all the weird things happening around us and I needed to know what we WEREN’T BEING TOLD in the news.

So, needless to say, I’ve done much better these days so as not to become so engrossed in research…and I’ve have toned it down quite a bit. I must add, that this info was just what I referred to as getting an ‘update’ on this particular topic…as I haven’t been keeping up with it as much. Most of the news I can get here on the forum and feel it’s been just as, if not, more informative. I do agree though, that spending time in things spiritual is definitely more beneficial…it brings about a certain calmness in me that I really need during this time, and more importantly it builds my faith.


Thanks BTD, for your loving reminders. It only shows that you care, and that’s a wonderful quality.
I did not mean my comment to sound dictatorial - I know I can come over that way and I tend to see things in black and white. It is safe to say that there are no depths to which mankind cannot sink and we can choose to investigate how far and how much we want to know about it, or we can, as Kennedy said, “..,choose to do the other things…”. Christ knew from the beginning, what his destiny would be, but he did not dwell on it an a significant (and thus recorded) manner until the hour of his death. Governments like to keep control over us by feeding us a never ending stream of horror. Its good to be aware, of course it is, but not as part of a daily diet.
 

Ms_ladyblue

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I did not mean my comment to sound dictatorial - I know I can come over that way and I tend to see things in black and white. It is safe to say that there are no depths to which mankind cannot sink and we can choose to investigate how far and how much we want to know about it, or we can, as Kennedy said, “..,choose to do the other things…”. Christ knew from the beginning, what his destiny would be, but he did not dwell on it an a significant (and thus recorded) manner until the hour of his death. Governments like to keep control over us by feeding us a never ending stream of horror. Its good to be aware, of course it is, but not as part of a daily diet.
No worries BTD, like I said, you were right to express your feelings about taking in an endless amount of negative information.

That said, I don’t think you came off as sounding dictatorial either. If you would’ve, I probably would not even commented. I learned a while back it does no good raising issues over various matters. It only serves to divide and we know that Satan would love this.

Peace out my brother ☺️
 
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