Christians attitude about the NWO

[The anointed]

I have a question about how we should behave as Christians in relation to the coming NWO, should we oppose it or should we accept it? We know that the NWO is going to succeed by destroying the system of nations, but should we try to awake people about their evil 2030 agenda? For instance, if we consider the position of the ancient Israel in the days of Jeremiah, they tried to oppose Babylon by making an alliance with Egypt , not paying attention to the message of Jeremiah that they shouldn't reveal and that wasn't going to be peace but destruction because of this rebellion.
In contrast, the Pharisees during the 1st century subdued to the Romans, although later the Jews revealed against Rome and finally the Temple was again destroyed.
Today the situation is similar to the 1st century: JW leaders have committed apostasy by joining the UN during the ninetees and now by subduing to the WHO and following the bandwagon of the climate change.
Should we then remain neutral or should we help people to know the NWO plan?
For instance, in relation to the vaccine deception, I tried to follow the example of the midwives against Pharaoh's orders of killing the male babies (Exodus 1:15) by awakening all the people I could, and although I got in trouble for that, I could see Jehovah's protection as well.

 

[SusanB]

I have a question about how should we as Christians behave in relation to the coming NWO, should we oppose it or should we accept it? We know that the NWO is going to succeed by destroying the system of nations, but should we try to awake people about their evil 2030 agenda? For instance, if we consider the position of the ancient Israel in the days of Jeremiah, they tried to oppose Babylon by making an alliance with Egypt not paying attention to the message of Jeremiah that they shouldn't reveal and that wasn't going to be peace but destruction because of this rebellion.
In contrast, the Pharisees during the 1st century made subdued to the Romans, although finally the Jews revealed against Rome and finally the Temple was again destroyed.
Today the situation is similar to the 1st century: JW leaders have committed apostasy by joining the UN during the ninetees and now by subduing to the WHO and following the bandwagon of the climate change.
Should we then remain neutral or should we help people to know the NWO plan?
For instance, in relation to the vaccine deception, I tried to follow the example of the midwives against Pharaoh's orders of killing the male babies (Exodus 1:15) by awakening all the people I could, and although I got in trouble for that I could see Jehovah's protection as well.

Your name and your question seem to me to be “incongruent”. I see you just joined the forum today. Your question seems to be the result of an automatic translator? Perhaps you should introduce yourself and how you choose your name. Are you representing yourself as one of the anointed? Is English your first or main language?

 

[The God Pill]

Warning people about the NWO and advising them on adaptation, cultivating antifragility, upcoming events and dangers is not promoting revolt. I'm not opposed to Defensive conflicts with NWO forces under specific circumstances but that's reactive behavior not proactive aggression. Those in christendom have a self enforced naivete where they hope they can stop, overcome or delay (outside whatever angels do to delay to make things fit Jehovah's timetable) the NWO and that somehow thats good it's sad. Our primary battle is not with flesh and blood our goal should not be secular opposition to the NWO but rather to speed the unfolding of things up through more preaching resulting in last anointed chosen and sealed faster and spiritual warfare against our nonhuman foes to weaken there influence on our species in whatever territories.

 

[The anointed]

Warning people about the NWO and advising them on adaptation, cultivating antifragility, upcoming events and dangers is not promoting revolt. I'm not opposed to Defensive conflicts with NWO forces under specific circumstances but that's reactive behavior not proactive aggression. Those in christendom have a self enforced naivete where they hope they can stop, overcome or delay (outside whatever angels do to delay to make things fit Jehovah's timetable) the NWO and that somehow thats good it's sad. Our primary battle is not with flesh and blood our goal should not be secular opposition to the NWO but rather to speed the unfolding of things up through more preaching resulting in last anointed chosen and sealed faster and spiritual warfare against our nonhuman foes to weaken there influence on our species in whatever territories.

Thanks for your reply. Just to make my question clear, I know we won't try to stop the NWO as the prophesies make it clear that it will succeed. That is why I gave the example of the vaccines, where our intention is not to stop them but to make people aware of their consequences as we are trying to care for their health and life. Moreover we know their objective is transhumanism, which obviously go against the way God created us. So should we warn people or should we remain silent in this regard?
What about other lies like climate change and their depopulation agenda?
I think that is all related to the fulfillment of prophesies, so we cannot remain silent. Are we not a light to the world?
So the question is how can we remain neutral as Christians but at the same time show people how the prophesies will be fulfilled?

 

[JulioG]

Thanks for your reply. Just to make my question clear, I know we won't try to stop the NWO as the prophesies make it clear that it will succeed. That is why I gave the example of the vaccines, where our intention is not to stop them but to make people aware of their consequences as we are trying to care for their health and life. Moreover we know their objective is transhumanism, which obviously go against the way God created us. So should we warn people or should we remain silent in this regard?
What about other lies like climate change and their depopulation agenda?
I think that is all related to the fulfillment of prophesies, so we cannot remain silent. Are we not a light to the world?
So the question is how can we remain neutral as Christians but at the same time show people how the prophesies will be fulfilled?

As already said by The God Pill

If you point people to the conspiracy and all demonic agenda to destroy the world and say..."let's join forces to counter and stop all satanic conspiracy"...you are not being neutral, as you trust in man and the power of the world to solve all problems.

But if you point out the conspiracy and every demonic agenda to destroy the world and lead people to trust in Jehovah and his anointed one... then you are being neutral towards this world.

Neutrality is not in keeping quiet about the things that happen and will happen, but in where we put our trust.

 

[Watchman]

I have a question about how we should behave as Christians in relation to the coming NWO, should we oppose it or should we accept it?

When the "one-hour" of the reign of the eighth king begins it will coincide with the coming to power of the Kingdom of God. Up until then, God requires Christians to submit to the superior authorities, as they are God's civil ministers. The eighth king will not serve that same function but will be an instrument of the Devil to coerce Christians to worship Satan and his beast.

 

[The anointed]

When the "one-hour" of the reign of the eighth king begins it will coincide with the coming to power of the Kingdom of God. Up until then, God requires Christians to submit to the superior authorities, as they are God's civil ministers. The eighth king will not serve that same function but will be an instrument of the Devil to coerce Christians to worship Satan and his beast.

Thanks Robert. Clearly, in relation to vaccines we can't submit as it's against our health and life (2 Cor 7:1) and then we have to obey God rather than rulers as the midwives did in Egypt disobeying the order of killing the male babies.

 

[Jennifer]

When the "one-hour" of the reign of the eighth king begins it will coincide with the coming to power of the Kingdom of God. Up until then, God requires Christians to submit to the superior authorities, as they are God's civil ministers. The eighth king will not serve that same function but will be an instrument of the Devil to coerce Christians to worship Satan and his beast.

Thanks Robert. Clearly, in relation to vaccines we can't submit as it's against our health and life (2 Cor 7:1) and then we have to obey God rather than rulers as the midwives did in Egypt disobeying the order of killing the male babies.

Was just about to say similar. We cannot accept digital money which is not money. UBI and whatever they plan on throwing at us or trying to make us comply with, will have us in their system. I don’t really see how we can comply with anything from here on. Maybe but I can’t see it

 

[PJ54]

As already said by The God Pill

If you point people to the conspiracy and all demonic agenda to destroy the world and say..."let's join forces to counter and stop all satanic conspiracy"...you are not being neutral, as you trust in man and the power of the world to solve all problems.

But if you point out the conspiracy and every demonic agenda to destroy the world and lead people to trust in Jehovah and his anointed one... then you are being neutral towards this world.

Neutrality is not in keeping quiet about the things that happen and will happen, but in where we put our trust.

Something to add as well is that playing "the game" ran by Satan will lead to a game over. As a human, we cannot fully understand how the meta of life truly works & even when we do understand some of it, it's obvious that it's a rigged system. How can you compete "fair & square" unless you play "dirty" as the game is designed?

 

[The anointed]

Was just about to say similar. We cannot accept digital money which is not money. UBI and whatever they plan on throwing at us or trying to make us comply with, will have us in their system. I don’t really see how we can comply with anything from here on. Maybe but I can’t see it

When the plandemia started my conclusion was that we had to leave cities as soon as we could and be farmers. Nevertheless, what Jesus said was that we have to leave when the disgusting thing (NWO) stands in the holy place (God's organization), which is something that will not happen until the NWO Is stablished after it destroys the system of nations. That makes me think why first century Christians had to wait to flee to the mountains until the Romans attacked Jerusalem in the year 66 , and clearly was that Jehovah wanted them to continue preaching in the cities. Similarly today, we might wait and continue preaching, including to the few brothers that might be willing to wake up.
The other issue is that managing a farm means a lot of work that you can't do alone and is quite hard for most people to join you as they are still attached to their city life, but this situation will change when the evil 2030 agenda advance
Finally, about living in a farm is against the NWO plan, as their objective is to have all people living in crowded cities to easily control them, which will involve to declare federal all the lands under the excuse of the emergency caused by the fake climate change or any other excuse they invest (pollution, pestilences, etc) to force you to move back to the city. The 15 minute cities is related to this.

 

[evw]

about living in a farm is against the plan is the NWO, as their objective is to have all people living in crowded cities to easily control them,

This is their plan for the Netherlands....

all talk of CO2 reduction is this satanic plan in progress and therefore all farms must be destroyed

 

[alan ford]

The eighth king will not serve that same function but will be an instrument of the Devil to coerce Christians to worship Satan and his beast.

16 And it puts under compulsion all persons,+ the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead,+ 17 and* that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark,* the name+ of the wild beast or the number of its name.

Interesting that something similar already happened in the Roman Empire. Not on a scale that it will be enforced in the NWO but still, it's good to know that Christians already had been subjected to it to some extent.

The libellus was the statement of the individual of his/her loyalty to the Empire, the fact that they had rendered the required sacrifice, plus a request for the officials to countersign as witnesses.

Libellus - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Wayback is your friend]

The NWO is already alive and well. We everyday wrestle with its implementation. It is promoting all of its antagonist causes that many object to. It is why we have issues with the org. Its already standing in a holy place. I believe we are already in the "hour". Covid was a gauge of its influence. Most submitted.

How should we view it? That's another matter. It's complicated. Like a relationship. Well first we must think about how Jehovah is acting regarding it. He from a strategic perspective is wanting it to unite to fulfill his goal. Attack untruthful religion. This is happening by their infiltration of religion and uniting it to the beast to act politically. The old separation of religion from the beast will be no more. Where religion told the beast what to do, now it will be the other way around the beast will dictate what is believable.

Back to how we should feel. We should feel as Jehovah does. He is goal driven regarding it. Meaning he does not like it but he uses it. Remember from his perspective it is the Disgusting thing that causes desolation. No Christian should support such behavior. Rather he rises to the occasion to support others who need to endure the beasts wicked behavior. But a Christian in no way is to support its evil. Christians are to do good. So as to not get the mark. Of course we must not become an activist to counter the beasts growth rather we patiently endure as mentioned. But we must be Awake to its operations so as to not be deceived. Keeping Jehovah's perspective and keeping our emotions in check while we endure.

That's my view.

 

[Jennifer]

When the plandemia started my conclusion was that we had to leave cities as soon as we could and be farmers. Nevertheless, what Jesus said was that we have to leave when the disgusting thing (NWO) stands in the holy place (God's organization), which is something that will not happen until the NWO Is stablished after it destroys the system of nations. That makes me think why first century Christians had to wait to flee to the mountains until the Romans attacked Jerusalem in the year 66 , and clearly was that Jehovah wanted them to continue preaching in the cities. Similarly today, we might wait and continue preaching, including to the few brothers that might be willing to wake up.
The other issue is that managing a farm means a lot of work that you can't do alone and is quite hard for most people to join you as they are still attached to their city life, but this situation will change when the evil 2030 agenda advance
Finally, about living in a farm is against the NWO plan, as their objective is to have all people living in crowded cities to easily control them, which will involve to declare federal all the lands under the excuse of the emergency caused by the fake climate change or any other excuse they invest (pollution, pestilences, etc) to force you to move back to the city. The 15 minute cities is related to this.

When the plandemia started my conclusion was that we had to leave cities as soon as we could and be farmers. Nevertheless, what Jesus said was that we have to leave when the disgusting thing (NWO) stands in the holy place (God's organization), which is something that will not happen until the NWO Is stablished after it destroys the system of nations. That makes me think why first century Christians had to wait to flee to the mountains until the Romans attacked Jerusalem in the year 66 , and clearly was that Jehovah wanted them to continue preaching in the cities. Similarly today, we might wait and continue preaching, including to the few brothers that might be willing to wake up.
The other issue is that managing a farm means a lot of work that you can't do alone and is quite hard for most people to join you as they are still attached to their city life, but this situation will change when the evil 2030 agenda advance
Finally, about living in a farm is against the NWO plan, as their objective is to have all people living in crowded cities to easily control them, which will involve to declare federal all the lands under the excuse of the emergency caused by the fake climate change or any other excuse they invest (pollution, pestilences, etc) to force you to move back to the city. The 15 minute cities is related to this.

I also thought of going rural until I realised that they’re not going to let that happen. I believe many people have already, but it can’t last. These lunatics are satanists after all, and no doubt will simply do whatever it takes to keep us in cities. Yep 15 minute cities. The media has put out that the “15 minute cities” is another whack job conspiracy theory. Beyond me how they can live with themselves. They could well be satanists too. I say this because a while back, here in Australia, a well known channel ABC, were presenting their “news” when all of a sudden, satanic imagery was displayed on our TV screens for maybe 10 seconds then returned to the so called news as if nothing had happened! I didn’t see it live because I don’t watch TV let alone the media liars. Just stunning!

Yeah, a good idea to wait and hopefully be able to help others. I do think JWs will respond, the ones who are truly for Jehovah that is.
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[Jennifer]

This is their plan for the Netherlands....
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all talk of CO2 reduction is this satanic plan in progress and therefore all farms must be destroyed

The whole thing is just despicable isn’t it. The poor farmers in the Netherlands. I felt so sad watching them protest, protesting simply because they want to survive. Sent a clip at the time to someone, only to get the response “this is misinformation“ yeah right, cos you can’t actually see it happening can you, which is what I wrote back. Positively sick n tired of the “misinformation brigade” Their eyes see what we see…in denial or what?

 

[The anointed]

The NWO is already alive and well. We everyday wrestle with its implementation. It is promoting all of its antagonist causes that many object to. It is why we have issues with the org. Its already standing in a holy place. I believe we are already in the "hour". Covid was a gauge of its influence. Most submitted.

How should we view it? That's another matter. It's complicated. Like a relationship. Well first we must think about how Jehovah is acting regarding it. He from a strategic perspective is wanting it to unite to fulfill his goal. Attack untruthful religion. This is happening by their infiltration of religion and uniting it to the beast to act politically. The old separation of religion from the beast will be no more. Where religion told the beast what to do, now it will be the other way around the beast will dictate what is believable.

Back to how we should feel. We should feel as Jehovah does. He is goal driven regarding it. Meaning he does not like it but he uses it. Remember from his perspective it is the Disgusting thing that causes desolation. No Christian should support such behavior. Rather he rises to the occasion to support others who need to endure the beasts wicked behavior. But a Christian in no way is to support its evil. Christians are to do good. So as to not get the mark. Of course we must not become an activist to counter the beasts growth rather we patiently endure as mentioned. But we must be Awake to its operations so as to not be deceived. Keeping Jehovah's perspective and keeping our emotions in check while we endure.

That's my view.

Thanks for your reply. I agree with you except in relation to the disgusting thing already standing in the holy place and I guess the key here is to understand why Rome was there, not as alliance but attacking Jerusalem for its rebellion. Today the Wtw organization is in alliance with the NWO as the Pharisees were also in alliance with Rome in the days of Christ. Actually they used Rome to kill Jesus and persecute his disciples which will probably happen with us before the Organisation is destroyed by the NWO.
In relation to the NWO ruling, remember that in Daniel's prophecy the little horn conquered 3 other horns, who are probably Usa, England and France as brother King has already explained. For instance, although they tried to force us to get vaccinated, finally they could not yet to make it mandatory, mainly because of the opposition of the three mentioned nations. Moreover, as it happened in the first century the persecution must come first and the world war that is coming that will open the way to bring the NWO as the solution

 

[BagdadBill]

My explanation has always been this: If you are awake to something that others are not, you are obligated as a decent human to awaken the others. Your house is on fire. That nature of things. Even if a person does not believe in God, I do however, even so we are obligated are we not? Excuse my punctuation mess on that last sentence. Yes, we warn others because we know. This has been one of my difficulties with Watchtower regarding a few issues. Namely, the mark of the beast and now, the corona virus injections which are clearly a sterilizing agent as well as a death call for some. My cousin died within a week of the covid jab. At our age, she could have been closer to death anyway but the timing is suspect. If we won't warn them, then what is our worth? As you will see on this site, the theme of Ezekiel is a strong point. I have stated before that we are all supposed to be watchmen and supply the warning given by Jehovah. It is easy to read scripture and think that it belongs to someone else to do the hands on work but God gave ample explanation through Ezekiel (the watchman) that it is incumbent upon every one of us to repeat what our Creator has said.
Yes, warn them about the injections, even if it is unpopular at the kingdom hall. Warn them at the grocery store, even if they give you a strange look. Warn them about the agenda of Satan at every opportunity you find. I don't suppose that any prophet ever won a popularity contest.
If you speak the word of God, are you not somewhat of a prophet?

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

The NWO is already alive and well. We everyday wrestle with its implementation. It is promoting all of its antagonist causes that many object to. It is why we have issues with the org. Its already standing in a holy place. I believe we are already in the "hour". Covid was a gauge of its influence. Most submitted.

How should we view it? That's another matter. It's complicated. Like a relationship. Well first we must think about how Jehovah is acting regarding it. He from a strategic perspective is wanting it to unite to fulfill his goal. Attack untruthful religion. This is happening by their infiltration of religion and uniting it to the beast to act politically. The old separation of religion from the beast will be no more. Where religion told the beast what to do, now it will be the other way around the beast will dictate what is believable.

Back to how we should feel. We should feel as Jehovah does. He is goal driven regarding it. Meaning he does not like it but he uses it. Remember from his perspective it is the Disgusting thing that causes desolation. No Christian should support such behavior. Rather he rises to the occasion to support others who need to endure the beasts wicked behavior. But a Christian in no way is to support its evil. Christians are to do good. So as to not get the mark. Of course we must not become an activist to counter the beasts growth rather we patiently endure as mentioned. But we must be Awake to its operations so as to not be deceived. Keeping Jehovah's perspective and keeping our emotions in check while we endure.

That's my view.

I do not think most submitted to government pressure to conform, but that most were deceived into conforming. There is a difference and it’s important when analysing what is truth and what is a lie. Insofar as the truth is concerned, deception is far more effective in getting people to cooperate. How much so, has just become known in England in that the health minister for government at that time has just had all his emails made public and it is shown how he and the government colluded to literally scare people into submission through exaggerating the issues of covid.

The bible supports the view of deception being a critical factor in this time, to the extent that unless Jehovah were to intervene, even the anointed would be deceived. It is hardly surprising, as how are we mortal humans expected to understand competing spiritual entities as they materialise or in some other way, imitate truth to deceive us. Frankly, I have no idea how we are expected to deal with the things to be revealed. Ambiguity is a curse!

 

[Wayback is your friend]

Thanks for your reply. I agree with you except in relation to the disgusting thing already standing in the holy place and I guess the key here is to understand why Rome was there, not as alliance but attacking Jerusalem for its rebellion. Today the Wtw organization is in alliance with the NWO as the Pharisees were also in alliance with Rome in the days of Christ. Actually they used Rome to kill Jesus and persecute his disciples which will probably happen with us before the Organisation is destroyed by the NWO.

In relation to the NWO ruling, remember that in Daniel's prophecy the little horn conquered 3 other horns, who are probably Usa, England and France as brother King has already explained. For instance, although they tried to force us to get vaccinated, finally they could not yet to make it mandatory, mainly because of the opposition of the three mentioned nations. Moreover, as it happened in the first century the persecution must come first and the world war that is coming that will open the way to bring tWO as the solution

What I would say in reply is the fact that the org is in compliance with the beast is because it has already been overcome as a result of the beast already standing in a holy place for some time now.

 

[BagdadBill]

I do not think most submitted to government pressure to conform, but that most were deceived into conforming. There is a difference and it’s important when analysing what is truth and what is a lie. Insofar as the truth is concerned, deception is far more effective in getting people to cooperate. How much so, has just become known in England in that the health minister for government at that time has just had all his emails made public and it is shown how he and the government colluded to literally scare people into submission through exaggerating the issues of covid.

The bible supports the view of deception being a critical factor in this time, to the extent that unless Jehovah were to intervene, even the anointed would be deceived. It is hardly surprising, as how are we mortal humans expected to understand competing spiritual entities as they materialise or in some other way, imitate truth to deceive us. Frankly, I have no idea how we are expected to deal with the things to be revealed. Ambiguity is a curse!

Well said. Actually, when it became evident to me that this conformity was becoming the norm, about three years ago, I went out of my way to stand out. Not because of any righteousness of my own but because I saw a need for the people to see and be warned.
Even many who think they see, are still missing the real point. There is no fighting this. All we can do is be informed and ready for when it gets real bad.