No Door To Door

kenmuldoon55

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wow. so this is not going unnoticed by any means. It’s not going unnoticed by God.
I've looked up information about the Bible Students. There is a lot of good information on some of their sites, especially Russell's books, and there used to be older Watchtowers too, not sure if they are still available though. I put a link to one in Central Ohio in the new thread that I added in the History topic under this new thread: Charles T. Russell and the Bible Students, here on the forum. The Bible Student's site has online versions of all of the Studies in the Scriptures books, even with AUDIO. I was very impressed! Its in the topic about . There's also a link to The entire Photodrama of Creation there, about 4.5 hours long!
Wow that’s interesting.
I remember reading that when Rutherford commandeered the reigns of power after Russels death that quite a split occurred in the org and many disenfranchised brothers broke away and continued their worship under different names.
 

Paz

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Yes there is lots, I’ve downloaded some of studies in the scriptures from those sites. The only thing about the Bible students is they tend to just sit with Russell s writings . But they are nice kindly group. One thing I was investigating was about the two groups he mentioned going to heaven. The 144000 anointed and the great multitude that eventually Rutherford said were to be the earthly group. I agree with this but Russell believed the two groups had existed since the 1st century. Russell mentioned these anointed and other sheep in his day 1880’s. This is obvious that the lesser devoted ones existed side by side with the apostles with the heavenly hope. This means Rutherford’s claim that this group began in 1935 is incorrect it means that he only realised this group were to pass through the great tribulation and inherit the earth. This resolves the 144000 dilemma . Jw’s were shocked to have 9000 partake of the emblems in 2000 and see it increase to about 18000 by 2017. Since they claim it’s meant to decrease over time. Will be opening my own website shortly. Regards all, Paz
 

kenmuldoon55

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Yes there is lots, I’ve downloaded some of studies in the scriptures from those sites. The only thing about the Bible students is they tend to just sit with Russell s writings . But they are nice kindly group. One thing I was investigating was about the two groups he mentioned going to heaven. The 144000 anointed and the great multitude that eventually Rutherford said were to be the earthly group. I agree with this but Russell believed the two groups had existed since the 1st century. Russell mentioned these anointed and other sheep in his day 1880’s. This is obvious that the lesser devoted ones existed side by side with the apostles with the heavenly hope. This means Rutherford’s claim that this group began in 1935 is incorrect it means that he only realised this group were to pass through the great tribulation and inherit the earth. This resolves the 144000 dilemma . Jw’s were shocked to have 9000 partake of the emblems in 2000 and see it increase to about 18000 by 2017. Since they claim it’s meant to decrease over time. Will be opening my own website shortly. Regards all, Paz
Will be looking forward to visiting your site when it’s up.
 

Medi-tator

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Hi Paz. Thanks for your message. I just saw your message and was wondering how you plan to up your informal witnessing, as I've been wondering how to engage in the ministry more on my own, with Jah's blessing and help of course. What I'm doing now is on my own, I don't do it with the Zoom group, but it's mainly by electronic means.
Aloha Bible Student. Sorry for inserting myself into your convo with Paz LOL, but #1) I am calling old dear friends who have left the org. There are several of those.

And although I have not begun to do this yet but #2) I am also going to call all my former business associates who I have as contacts in my phone and ask them some interesting questions. Formerly I was a "sales director" at a large company and have many people who looked to me for business advice and would likely be very open to a soft witness. I do already have a couple of regular RV's amongst that group.

These are a couple of ways I am upping my preaching game. I also like your "fingers do the walking" method, God knows I did enough cold calling for worldly pursuits, why not do some witnessing that way. Actually, Driven and I have done a ton of that in an organized fashion with our congregation's territory maps but it was basically the same as going door to door in our most recent territory where we have been a member of the congregation for 18 years. Mostly no one answered our phone calls (not unlike no one being home when we knocked on their doors) so we of course wrote and mailed out a boat load of letters. I just thought I would add those few ideas for you to consider in your own ministry in the event you have not thought of them already.
 
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