September 23, 2023: Daniel's 1290 days and the beast system timeline

I don't think I can survive another 10 years of this old system. :cry:
That will be the final year. Everything must be accomplished by then. So, maybe, everything will have already started by then. We will have to wait and see anyway. Nobody knows the day or the hour. They might want something, but Jehovah might want another thing and they know they are subject to that.
 
Since September 23rd last year, the world is accumulating more war and war and war and things are turning harder and worse everyday in the world's affairs. Let's see how all this ends. 14 days after September 23rd which in the Julian calendar is October 6th, the war in Gaza began, and since then, the world is moving more and more towards a world war more than ever. I do believe that the final timing will be 2034. The elite is desperate and it seems that the demons too. They must finish everything quick.
Luis, would you mind winding your doomsday clock back ten years? I not going to make it to 2034. Try to be more positive!
 
That will be the final year. Everything must be accomplished by then. So, maybe, everything will have already started by then. We will have to wait and see anyway. Nobody knows the day or the hour. They might want something, but Jehovah might want another thing and they know they are subject to that.
I'm preparing for 3 scenarios:
  1. Jesus returns soon
  2. Jehovah gives the world a Ninevah reprieve
  3. Jesus delays to test our faith

I believe he's coming soon, but I'm preparing for options 2 and 3 so my faith won't give out.
 
This is one of the reasons I love this site…. When reading, it’s natural for me to question things. One that was raised in this thread is:

If the prophetically pictured “great crowd” COMES OUT of the great tribulation…. And is standing before the throne and the Lamb dressed in their white robes….

AND If the authoritarian 8th King comes to power AFTER the great tribulation….

And the authoritarian 8th King kills some of those - who came out of the great tribulation - for refusing to bow to the 8th King because they support Christs rule….

How can it be said that those who came out of the great tribulation were ever standing before the throne and the Lamb, saying: “Salvation we owe to our God, who is seated on the throne,i and to the Lamb.” if they are dead?
Scriptures for Thought along with Robert's wonderful video in relation to the subject.

Revelation7:​

7 After this I saw four angels+ standing upon the four corners* of the earth, holding tight the four winds+ of the earth, that no wind might blow upon the earth or upon the sea or upon any tree.+ 2 And I saw another angel ascending from the sunrising,+ having a seal of [the] living God;+ and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, 3 saying: “Do not harm* the earth or the sea or the trees, until after we have sealed+ the slaves of our God in their foreheads.+
13 And in response one of the elders+ said to me: “These who are dressed in the white robes,+ who are they and where did they come from?” 14 So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one that knows.” And he said to me: “These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation,+ and they have washed their robes and made them white+ in the blood+ of the Lamb. 15 That is why they are before+ the throne of God; and they are rendering him sacred service*+ day and night in his temple;* and the One seated on the throne+ will spread his tent+ over them. 16 They will hunger no more nor thirst anymore, neither will the sun beat down upon them nor any scorching heat,+ 17 because the Lamb,+ who is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd+ them, and will guide them to fountains of waters+ of life. And God will wipe out every tear from their eyes.”+
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I've never been to America - it's on my bucket list. 😄
When I first went there, I had never experienced 100% humidity (except when listening to party political broadcasts). Leaving the airport I thought I was standing under a door heater in a swimming pool, but I was actually outside. If you go to an restaurant bring a suitcase to take home the remainder of your meal with you - they actually pack it for you and you won’t need to shop for a week, - and don’t what ever you do, make eye contact with the lady that floats about with a coffee pot in her hand , she will refill your cup like an out of control rabid vending machine every time you take a sip, and you won’t sleep for six months. And……if you have to ask a policeman for directions, approach very cautiously with both hands in the air, palms visible and don’t make any sudden moves - smile, and tell him your English (not Australian - otherwise he may shoot you), and he will immediately go straight to English mode, holster his gun, smile and be nice. And another thing - if you go on the New York underground, no matter how weird the people, DO NOT make eye contact, or attempt to photograph them. I speak from experience…..No one at home will believe you anyway. Do go to Maine and try the lobster and also try a barbecue steak - you’ll never forget it.
 
I'm preparing for 3 scenarios:
  1. Jesus returns soon
  2. Jehovah gives the world a Ninevah reprieve
  3. Jesus delays to test our faith

I believe he's coming soon, but I'm preparing for options 2 and 3 so my faith won't give out.
It strikes me, Carl, that you are a very driven man, especially in thinking about 'what is going to happen', 'who is the enemy' and 'how do I best prepare' so that I have 'all eventualities' hedged.
Undoubtedly an excellent attitude in the sport, but I miss something in your drive.
If I may be so bold as to say it, I miss Faith, otherwise why would you need 3 different options? And especially the reflection of Jehovah's LOVE.
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It strikes me, Carl, that you are a very driven man, especially in thinking about 'what is going to happen', 'who is the enemy' and 'how do I best prepare' so that I have 'all eventualities' hedged.
Undoubtedly an excellent attitude in the sport, but I miss something in your drive.
If I may be so bold as to say it, I miss Faith, otherwise why would you need 3 different options? And especially the reflection of Jehovah's LOVE.
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Great question. My faith is absolute, up to and including death, but that doesn't mean I'm going to sit back and assume I don't need to prepare. I know Jehovah will provide, but I don't want to assume my desire to be prepared isn't inspired versus fleshly anxiety. I feel compelled to get ready so I can help others who may be more complacent, or who may not have the means.
 
I'm preparing for 3 scenarios:
  1. Jesus returns soon
  2. Jehovah gives the world a Ninevah reprieve
  3. Jesus delays to test our faith

I believe he's coming soon, but I'm preparing for options 2 and 3 so my faith won't give out.
If Jesus is the epitome of love, for the sake of the chosen ones he cannot delay. Jehovah speaks often about not delaying. I’m sure we can have confidence in that. In fact, justice would be meaningless if there were a delay.
 
Luis, would you mind winding your doomsday clock back ten years? I not going to make it to 2034. Try to be more positive!
Lol that does not depend on me. I cannot be positive but realistic. Haha. But I do think it's very close, we can feel that because of everything we are seeing in the world, especially all those hot spots about to boil right now and the others that are added every week. As I said, anyway, we do not know the day or hour, sister. 😂😬😖🤷🏻‍♂️ And it was not only me the one who said that about 2034. Haha.
Nevertheless, remember:
"But the one who has endured to the end will be saved".
Remember also that once everything starts, we will have to wait more time (some years) until the Millennium begins.
I personally believe that the last days will be 7 years.
And I don't think that the last days will start in 2034. I think that will be the year for Armageddon. That means that everything will start 7 years before in 2027 or thereabouts. But as I said again, we do not know the day or the hour. It's just a thought.
Anyway, you won't have to wait 10 years, but 3. Haha 😝
As I said before in other topics, I think or maybe everything will start once Donald Trump is president again.
Furthermore, remember that we are waiting for a declaration of peace and security. That's something everyone seems to forget about when they see wars around the world.
Remember that needs to happen first before WWIII starts. That's something we need to focus on, but, again, something people seems to forget about because they are focused on wars. There will be a big war, but first there will be peace and security. Remember that Revelation says that the second horseman takes peace away from the Earth.
Maybe there will be some kind of agreement that will bring an end to all the wars around the world, but someone will break it and that will start everything.
 
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If Jesus is the epitome of love, for the sake of the chosen ones he cannot delay. Jehovah speaks often about not delaying. I’m sure we can have confidence in that. In fact, justice would be meaningless if there were a delay.
He may not delay according to his timeline, but according to our expectations he could. Most of us expect him to return soon... but what is "soon?" Tomorrow? Next year? 3 years? We've been expecting his return for years now, but it still hasn't happened. This hasn't dulled our faith, because we know it's on Jehovah's timeline, not our own. My point was that my faith won't dull even if Jesus' return is 20 years away. I believe it's imminent, but I'm OK if I'm wrong.
 
Lol that does not depend on me. I cannot be positive but realistic. Haha. But I do think it's very close, we can feel that because of everything we are seeing in the world, especially all those hot spots about to boil right now and the others that are added every week. As I said, anyway, we do not know the day or hour, sister. 😂😬😖🤷🏻‍♂️ And it was not only me the one who said that about 2034. Haha.
Nevertheless, remember:
"But the one who has endured to the end will be saved".
Remember also that once everything starts, we will have to wait more time (some years) until the Millennium begins.
I personally believe that the last days will be 7 years.
And I don't think that the last days will start in 2034. I think that will be the year for Armageddon. That means that everything will start 7 years before in 2027 or thereabouts. But as I said again, we do not know the day or the hour. It's just a thought.
Anyway, you won't have to wait 10 years, but 3. Haha 😝
As I said before in other topics, I think or maybe everything will start once Donald Trump is president again.
Furthermore, remember that we are waiting for a declaration of peace and security. That's something everyone seems to forget about when they see wars around the world.
Remember that needs to happen first before WWIII starts. That's something we need to focus on, but, again, something people seems to forget about because they are focused on wars. There will be a big war, but first there will be peace and security. Remember that Revelation says that the second horseman takes peace away from the Earth.
Maybe there will be some kind of agreement that will bring an end to all the wars around the world, but someone will break it and that will start everything.
The Cry for Peace and Security

1 Thessalonians 5:3 Whenever it is that they are saying, “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly on them, just like birth pains on a pregnant woman, and they will by no means escape.


"Against the consensus that ‘peace and security’ in 1 Thess 5.3 is an allusion to a common Roman imperial slogan, it is argued that, while ‘peace’ does, in fact, evoke Roman propaganda's promise of a stable society to her loyal subjects, ‘security’ has its roots in the Hellenistic conception of the polis as the guarantor of stability. Paul himself combined these two catchwords, thereby promoting a counterclaim both to Roman imperial power and to Hellenistic visions of the ideal civic society. Neither can offer true security in the face of the apocalyptic cataclysm he is convinced is coming. That can be found, as far as he is concerned, only in identifying with the community of believers in Jesus."

Definition of 'civic society'1. an organization founded to promote the interests of a local community

How was this fullfilled? First we have to look at the meaning of Peace and Security, when looked up in Greek according to Cambridge University, it was directly linked to stability of society (refer to article above) was society in upheaval? Yes we were at war according to President Trump in 2020 with Coronavirus, this was the same day that the constant feature was removed. All of the religions and society was promised 'total victory' shifting faith from God to putting faith and trust in man and mans vaccines.

President Trump on March 18th-19th 2020 issues war against covid and promised 'Total Victory'





Note: Just an intepretation that me and my parents came up with in 2022.
 
He may not delay according to his timeline, but according to our expectations he could. Most of us expect him to return soon... but what is "soon?" Tomorrow? Next year? 3 years? We've been expecting his return for years now, but it still hasn't happened. This hasn't dulled our faith, because we know it's on Jehovah's timeline, not our own. My point was that my faith won't dull even if Jesus' return is 20 years away. I believe it's imminent, but I'm OK if I'm wrong.
I see what you mean. I didn’t think of it that way. I still have the 1975 lesson in my head. I did though have a very good moustache! I was such a rebel. When I shaved it off I was promoted to holding the microphone! I was on my way to the top seat on the Governing Body!
 
‭‭Habakkuk‬ ‭2:3‭-4
[3] “For the vision is yet for the appointed time; It hurries toward the goal and it will not fail. Though it delays, wait for it; For it will certainly come, it will not delay long. [4] ¶“Behold, as for the impudent one, His soul is not right within him; But the righteous one will live by his faith.

‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:48‭-‬51‬ ‭
[48] But if that evil servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ [49] and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards, [50] the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of, [51] and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:8‭-‬9‬ ‭
[8] But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day. [9] The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not willing for any to perish, but for all to come to repentance.

‭‭Revelation‬ ‭7:2‭-‬3‬
[2] And I saw another angel ascending from the rising of the sun, holding the seal of the living God; and he called out with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, [3] saying, “Do not harm the earth, or the sea, or the trees until we have sealed the bond-servants of our God on their foreheads
 
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