Ok. I wasn't referring to the forum. He or she said they thought this was a group for unjabbed witnesses, but was mistaken. Don't know about what may have happened years back, just here and now. Perhaps he or she didn't realize this forum was connected to e-Watchman. Anyway, whoever they were, Proverbs has apparently left the building.
Proverbs 14:15 is a good scripture to keep in mind.
Undisputably true. As is Romans 3:4, "Let God be found true, but every man a liar." ASV
I have to say, Proverbs makes sense in his or her words above. He or she says: "One thing it means is that we can't just blindly follow ANY one. The Bible trumps anything anyone might say...Jehovah God tells us to ponder each step and don't be naive. He couldn't make it any clearer if he tried!"
I don’t think she/he was DF’d, I think she/he disassociated themself. Personally, I think some need to stay sober.
I have had to write the majority of my communications through my working life because I am too deaf to use the phone. I even found it prudent to have a disclaimer at the end of every text that included the tone of speech I was using. You can imagine the text required to put a ten minute phone call into written words. Attaining a non-threatening level of prose turned out to be an art-form of prediction; (still not mastered for me, I have to say) anticipating how another may read tone, intent, emotion and/or aggression - and of all of those ills to tackle, ambiguity was the greatest challenge of all for the simple reason that it is impossible to know the emotive state, insight and perception of self of the recipient to the subject matter in discussion. That we cannot ever hope to second-guess the response of a person to our thoughts, will always be a barrier in writing. That is the basis of transaction in discussion face to face because the maelstrom of evidence-indicators that tone, face, eyes, dress and pronunciation convey in a second a response to our message that can be countered swiftly, and thus avoid conflict in meaning unless conflict is the intent. That is also why propaganda is so effective in that it “normalises” thought and behaviour before the subject is ever broached in a public setting. Look how homosexuality was made normal to the extent that now in the public realm, it is ‘celebrated’ as ‘diversity’. Compare that with the response given to witnessing via the written word where we can but imagine how quickly that letter gets binned. It is for the very reason that face to face discussion is an art form of negotiation, whereas the written word is a challenge in measuring understanding of an unknown quantity. That we often fail in such a task is as much our fault as that of the reader, but many see that as persecution because the recipient reads into such, emotions and intent that are simply not there. In such cases, I have found, it is a gift of kindness for the sake of brotherhood for the writer to apologise for not making themselves clear in the first place, allowing the other, offended person, an avenue of reciprocation to repair what is almost always, a simple misunderstanding. If our love for one another is true, the outcome is, dare I say it, always reciprocated - just as the bible notes, “love withstands all things, hopes all things and never fails”. That much of script is true, if both parties have it or hope to seek it.
It is an insight into what is going on in the watchtower that a fellow witness would think that there was a site for un-jabbed witnesses. It rather sad.
Well stated. I think that's exactly what happened. Lost in translation as they say. I'm open to the fact that some here may have more insight into personalities than I do. As you stated, it is very challenging to communicate effectively in written form, especially in correspondent format. I lost family relationships on Facebook due to this issue so I know the harm that can occur. I often pause before hitting the post button because I fear my thoughts may not have been conveyed properly. But sometimes you just have to plug away and hope that others will give the benefit of the doubt or at least allow for further explanation.
Cada vez me gusta más el lenguaje canino. Soy tu fan!!! Jajajaj, como está el perro más dicharachero de del foro?? Te mando ladrido tipo aullido...como me gustan!!!!
I appreciate cavemen. They come straight to the point with a stone tied to a stick. You might be related to Robert!
I did apologize, maybe read it again, "OK, how about this, I thought you sounded like a complete jerk, trying to start crap here, and I think I misjudged you! Possibly because I was just wrong! Does that clear it up?" And his reply was, "Not really..which part of what I said came across as "crap" ?" I just admitted I thought I was wrong, and he want's me where I thought in fact I didn't say "he came across as crap" I said I thought he was starting crap, and that I was wrong.
And, by the way, I'm not a drinker, or an alcoholic, as was implied here. Nor am I mentally ill, as has been falsly stated, nor do I take drugs nor do I require, or take, any medication, other than, perhaps, a couple of aspirin once a year, but I try to avoid even that. But that's the kind of c...p that you will find on forums, and, sadly, this one is no exception. Que sere sere. There is nothing new under the sun.Dear Proverbs,
You are obviously very honest and humble, even self deprecating. There's no need to belittle yourself however, just because others do, either subtly or overtly. You just unwittingly stumbled into a brier patch, my friend, but you'll be okay. 2 Cor. 4:7-9
They're coming out of the woodwork.
Maybe you should start!
Proverbs 23:20, 21; 1 Cor. 5:11; 6:10; 15:33, 34.
Mentes complejas con placeres sencillos...esa es la cuestión!!!
you mean you’re normally a complete asshole?
i’ve judged you as bad association. now run along, cupcake.
Que peculiar es volver al foro después de unas semanas...no se les puede dejar solos eh?...
Los quiero igual!!!
