About 1914 C.E. ???
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Ms_ladyblue
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Could you please esplane Jah-son? Like kirmmy said, that picture is way to big to seeā¦and for me to figure out the subtle change.
Although I guess I could go look up the article huh? š
Patricia
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I'm not Jah-son . and I might not be seeing what he's referring to but I think it's the "ABOUT" 1914.
Ms_ladyblue
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Yes, I know but what I canāt figure out exactly because of the HUGE picture he posted with the question, Notice the subtle change? Are they moving the goalpost again?
There probably is a change, I just wanted to be sure what the subtle change isā¦.
Did you notice Patricia?
Jah-son
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Apparently this isnt new according to what Im reading on redit: " So, in Appendix B1 from the NEW WORLD TRANSLATION OF THE HOLY SCRIPTURES (2013 REVISION), in the "The Message of the Bible" timeline, we can read "About 1914 C.E."."
Are they getting enough blowback that they are leaving an open door for some Nulite magic?
Are they getting enough blowback that they are leaving an open door for some Nulite magic?
SusanB
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I do think I saw this about a year ago. It is a change and I have no doubt they know they have some āsplaininā to do with regard to 1914.
Yes I noticed āaboutā 1914 was mentioned. In the broadcast it also mentioned that the āfaithful slaveā will be inspected by Christ around the Great Tribulation. Another reflection of humility by the GB. So thatās a potential positive move from my point of view. This āaboutā demonstrates a spirit of flexibility is becoming apparent. I have seen a video on YouTube on dates if I find it I will post it next. Regards G.
Jah-son
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I realize that you feel the GB are humbly serving as the Faithful slave. That's fine, we all are allowed to have our own views. Most JWs would proudly agree with you.
You mention their "flexibility" being a sign of humility. Do you believe that Christ was actually enthroned in 1914? If so, what are they being flexible with? Either it's 1914 or it's not. If not, they should be honest and tell us?
You'll excuse me, but I haven't watched the September broadcast. You mentioned that they admitted the āfaithful slaveā will be inspected by Christ around the Great Tribulation. That would be in the future, correct? Weren't they already inspected in 1919 according to WT Tradition? I'm confused. Is there now a second inspection?
Correct me if I'm wrong but if Jehovah and Jesus are using the GB today as a channel to dispense spiritual food at the proper time, then the 1914 deception was all part of Jehovah's purpose and now he has given the "ok" for the GB to be "flexible" with the date after 100 + years of adamantly preaching a lie (which has become part of our fundamental beliefs as JWs)? Is that how the Rock, the God of truth and justice acts? He commissions a lie to be the foundational belief for the beginning his son's glorious Kingdom and then slowly "adjusts" the lie over time to fit the current circumstances when it's becoming too apparent that it is a lie?
Now, if you're going to use the excuse that Jehovah has allowed imperfect men to believe and promote their own faulty reasoning and they are simply incorrect, fine I guess I can give them the benefit of the doubt that they made a horrific blunder. Now show me where the WTBTS has ever humbly admitted they were "wrong" stating "we were wrong". And then apologized for misleading the flock due to their imperfect interpretation of scripture. Would this not be the humble, modest, discreet and correct way to act. Go ahead...I'll wait.
On the contrary, Jehovah (the God of truth) is not leading them to these faulty conclusions, he is simply allowing them to "dig their own grave" due to their arrogance and lack of modesty, discretion and humility. It's becoming apparent to many that they are fraudsters and the evidence will only continue to mount until it completely overwhelms and they are forced to confront it.
If they wanted to adjust the 1914 narrative,, they could and should have done it in 1914 or shortly thereafter when it was apparent that the prophecy was not properly fulfilled. Robert King has written and spoken extensively about the evidence against the 1914 narrative.
IMHO, the problem began when Jehovah revealed to them (the bible students) the core understandings of Bible truth because they were humble and eager enough to search for it. This was a good start. However, as imperfect humans often do, they began to get puffed up with pride, believing they were now "on a roll" and wrer granted the ability to interpret the entirety of scripture. Proof of this is in Russell's wild interpretation of prophecy in his early writings (pyramids = calculations of prophetic times, Leviathan = locomotive, etc.) followed by years of misinterpreting prophesy. Was it Jehovah's time to interpret the entirety of scripture and prophecy? Obviously not. Yet, the WT has to push ahead, motivated by a desire to remain relevant in they eyes of the flock (after all, they are the self proclaimed FFDS). This is where they went wrong. They were more concerned about their appearance before men than their approval before God. Now, in 2022 they are viewed as infallable gods before the flock and are determined to remain that way. This is why they dare not admit to a mistake. It's always "new light" or the brotherhood took it the wrong way, "false expectations of the flock" (1975). This situation was created out of their own desire to be the sole interpreter of scripture. No one else is allowed to contribute, not even their fellow "anointed" slaves.
Jehovah and Jesus did not cause this situation, they simply allowed the natural course to develop, blessing humble beginnings and establishing a foundation for the preaching of the good news. Just like the Israelites wanted a visable king. Jehovah allowed them to have their visable king and even blessed humble beginnings. We know the rest of the story. History repeats. Nothing is new under the sun.
And yes, it is Jehovah's desire that people come to know him through an accurate knowledge of his word. Basic bible truth was revealed to humble bible students and continues to be preached by humble bible students. Unfortunately, it has become mixed with false doctrinal weeds (Traditions of men). It's important that each individual Christian use discernment, as we were warned to watch out for false prophets among us. This is what we should be doing a, like the Beoreans, making sure of all things.
So, no I don't believe they are going to "flex" their way out of the 1914 deception. They own it. Just like they own all of the other presumptuous, false interpretations throughout the years. They will have to stand in judgement for their actions.
Jah-son
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Yes, you are correct. I realized.that after posting the thread and reading further comment from Redit. Thanks for clarifying.
Nomex
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Excellent post, I don't have anything to add! Like you said, they have to own this deception now, because their entire narrative falls apart with out 1914. Without 1914 there is no "inspection in 1919", and no appointment of the FDS! They cannot "apologize" their way out of this. They have dug their own grave and Covid forced their tyrannical hand to prove the lengths they are willing to go to maintain this deception.
kenmuldoon55
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Theyāll twist that like they did the generation thing.
kenmuldoon55
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Too bad they canāt be flexible enough to see that they have stumbled tens of thousands of members with their
outright lawlessness and false 1914 doctrine that will end up causing the deaths of two thirds of the brothers and sisters when Jesus begins his authentic rule.
They are a nest of money loving scoundrels who love the adoration heaped on them by the brainwashed multitudes.