They emasculated calebs dad! Wow check out the difference..

Fallen said:
I think the two illustrations of Caleb's old man are just fine.
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I thought the initial one was the most feminine “augmented“, and the latter one someone’s idea of a slim androgynous version. Watchtower are becoming very attuned to lukewarm statements that are neither one thing or the other, a type of greyness that will not offend anyone. They are getting very cautious about stepping on the toes of modern opinion that demands everything be acceptable if it does no (visible) harm. Which of course it does and cannot be done anyway!
 
BARNABY THE DOG. said:
Watchtower are becoming very attuned to lukewarm statements that are neither one thing or the other
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I think the only real true unchanging dogma from WT is this..."we'll have Jehovah's blessing, but more important, we'll have unity." That should be some kind of slogan, and a perpetual source of mocking and Memes! "Unity, it's what WT craves!" "Unity, it's what JW R&F crave." Feel free to add to this!!!
 
Fallen said:
I think the two illustrations of Caleb's old man are just fine.
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Hi Fallen, disagreements happen even among nice people. And, even nice people can get abrupt and lash out. What I have a problem with is using the bible to slam someone else over a minor disagreement. I just don’t think that should ever happen. The bible isn’t written to defend your pride. It’s written to lead us to Jehovah’s righteousness in a world that tries to pollute its message. So, please feel free to disagree but I would ask you to refrain from using the bible to metaphorically “club” someone else over the head.
 
SusanB said:
Hi Fallen, disagreements happen even among nice people. And, even nice people can get abrupt and lash out. What I have a problem with is using the bible to slam someone else over a minor disagreement. I just don’t think that should ever happen. The bible isn’t written to defend your pride. It’s written to lead us to Jehovah’s righteousness in a world that tries to pollute its message. So, please feel free to disagree but I would ask you to refrain from using the bible to metaphorically “club” someone else over the head.
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You’re right, Sis. Never considered that. Thanks for the correction.
 
Paula said:
Believe me when elderly people wear tight pants or clothes then there can be repercussions. Skin tears which cause severe infections. The skin becomes transparent in some elderly as they get old, some insist they still want to look trendy but they no longer have the strength to take them off. They feel violated when you help them. All I can say is baggy trousers and tops are the best invention😉🤣
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Baggy crap cloths are for large people in shape, or fat over weight gluttons, who can continue getting bigger and bigger...if tight clothes were as bad as you say, then compression socks and clothing as will as surgical products wouldn't be used..you need a history lesson..do your research..
 
Revvzone said:
The WT prefers weak impotent men, easier to control..It's the destruction of masculinity..The watchtower men will soon put down like the ravenous dogs they are..
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I simply don’t understand how you guys are jumping so far and deep based on merely a cartoon illustration.

What’s next, flip it upside down and hold it up to a mirror with a Michael Jackson’s record playing backwards in the background?🤷🏿‍♂️
 
Fallen said:
I simply don’t understand how you guys are jumping so far and deep based on merely a cartoon illustration.
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The issue is it is not "just a cartoon", it is the cumulative overall attitude and treatment coming from WT and the GB of anyone especially men who thinks even slightly independent of WT. They cannot have that, and because they cannot have that, it opens up criticism of everything they do!


It's the old adage "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me." LOL...1914!!! Fool me for 110 years!
 
Nomex said:
The issue is it is not "just a cartoon", it is the cumulative overall attitude and treatment coming from WT and the GB of anyone especially men who thinks even slightly independent of WT. They cannot have that, and because they cannot have that, it opens up criticism of everything they do!


It's the old adage "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me." LOL...1914!!! Fool me for 110 years!
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Exactly right!
 
Nomex said:
The issue is it is not "just a cartoon", it is the cumulative overall attitude and treatment coming from WT and the GB of anyone especially men who thinks even slightly independent of WT. They cannot have that, and because they cannot have that, it opens up criticism of everything they do!


It's the old adage "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me." LOL...1914!!! Fool me for 110 years!
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Well I guess I’m going to have to keep watching and learning, Brother Nom.

It could be that the scales haven’t completely fallen off my eyes yet. Jehovah lead me here for a reason so that gotta count for something, right👌🏿
 
Fallen said:
Well I guess I’m going to have to keep watching and learning, Brother Nom.

It could be that the scales haven’t completely fallen off my eyes yet. Jehovah lead me here for a reason so that gotta count for something, right👌🏿
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I'm gonna send you a PM when I have time, explaining how I "woke up" which in the case of being one of Jehovah's Witnesses, we should already be awake to the fact Satan is the God of this world, but I think the whole 1914 narrative clouds what is really going on in the world because to JW R&F think all but 3 prophecies have been fulfilled. Which should leave anyone wondering why the 109 year hold up to bring the GT and Armageddon.
 
Fallen said:
No. I see no problem with the Pope, or any other religious organization reaching out to Homosexuals in an attempt to teach them God's word.
No...I do not see a problem with the Vaccines.
No, I do not see how Caleb's old man was Feminized.

However, what I do see is that this platform does not take kindly to anyone who thinks outside of its own tank. I am not leaving the Tyranny of the Watchtower only to subject myself to the Tyranny of another.
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Hi Fallen, I actually honestly appreciate that you will state your opinion and you aren’t going along with the crowd so to speak. I realize that takes courage and we should all have courage. I have some questions for you on the vaccine because I honestly want to understand your view and how you arrived at it. What do you see as the benefit of the vaccines, assuming that you are conveying that they do have a benefit? Thank you for keeping us all aware of different opinions.
 
Fallen said:
I simply don’t understand how you guys are jumping so far and deep based on merely a cartoon illustration.

What’s next, flip it upside down and hold it up to a mirror with a Michael Jackson’s record playing backwards in the background?🤷🏿‍♂️
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Try watching the News..Part of the NWOs agenda is to emasculate men, they consider masculinity a threat..perhaps you haven't noticed, the watchtower is on board with it..
 
SusanB said:
Hi Fallen, I actually honestly appreciate that you will state your opinion and you aren’t going along with the crowd so to speak. I realize that takes courage and we should all have courage. I have some questions for you on the vaccine because I honestly want to understand your view and how you arrived at it. What do you see as the benefit of the vaccines, assuming that you are conveying that they do have a benefit? Thank you for keeping us all aware of different opinions.
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Thanks for the invitation to state my piece, Sis. But I’ve already gained enough heat from that topic. So much heat that Robert shut it down.

I really don’t want to be known as the guy who causes good threads to get shut down, which I’m sure will happen again should I take you up on your invitation.

That ship has long sailed. Plus I think I just won the friendship of one of the pit Bulls on this forum, brother @Nomex , I really don’t want to lose it😂

But to keep it nice and short, I believe that even though Satan is the god this world, Jehovah has set up checks and balances. I do not believe we have arrived at the time where Satan will be allowed to slaughter people whole sale…again, not yet.

Whatever crap they put in the vaccines ( they could have also placed it in many other things as well. Don’t think for a moment that these wicked elites didn’t already take into account that the shots would be rejected by a large percentage of the population. They could have also placed it in the flu shots or whatever else pple wouldn’t suspect.

I’m just not a “what if” type of guy. And wild speculation doesn’t do anyone any good and that goes double for paranoia. I took the shot. Glad I did. Many others did not. I accept and respect that. I only wish the sentiments were reciprocated without others feeling the need to demonize and criticize.
 
Revvzone said:
Try watching the News..Part of the NWOs agenda is to emasculate men, they consider masculinity a threat..perhaps you haven't noticed, the watchtower is on board with it..
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Let alone some of the bible readers. They sound like emasculated school boys and beards are actively stamped on. We even all have to dress the same. Just like the army------dress them all the same and they're easier to control
 
Fallen said:
Thanks for the invitation to state my piece, Sis. But I’ve already gained enough heat from that topic. So much heat that Robert shut it down.

I really don’t want to be known as the guy who causes good threads to get shut down, which I’m sure will happen again should I take you up on your invitation.

That ship has long sailed. Plus I think I just won the friendship of one of the pit Bulls on this forum, brother @Nomex , I really don’t want to lose it😂

But to keep it nice and short, I believe that even though Satan is the god this world, Jehovah has set up checks and balances. I do not believe we have arrived at the time where Satan will be allowed to slaughter people whole sale…again, not yet.

Whatever crap they put in the vaccines ( they could have also placed it in many other things as well. Don’t think for a moment that these wicked elites didn’t already take into account that the shots would be rejected by a large percentage of the population. They could have also placed it in the flu shots or whatever else pple wouldn’t suspect.

I’m just not a “what if” type of guy. And wild speculation doesn’t do anyone any good and that goes double for paranoia. I took the shot. Glad I did. Many others did not. I accept and respect that. I only wish the sentiments were reciprocated without others feeling the need to demonize and criticize.
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Thank you for your reply and I certainly don’t want to stir up arguments. However, we on this site are observers of what is happening within the organization and also outside the organization and the forum is to discuss what we are seeing as well as our opinions. I was just watching the March JW broadcast and they interviewed a brother who has terminal cancer. He came down with cancer 18 months ago. In my opinion, it is likely it was caused by the vaccine because that is exactly what the vaccine does is damage the parts of your immune system that fight off cancer and the timing is right. I would never tell anyone, except my relatives, to not get the vaccine nor to get it. But I do suggest they make a fully informed decision. I think the facts are evident that the vaccines carry a risk of death and disability that our society has never before knowingly tolerated in a medicine. 5th generation warfare is a war where you cannot prove who the attacker is and the vaccine kills and maimes in a way that is almost impossible to determine the source unless someone uses staining in the cancer cells to see the spike protein. I hope you and your family stay healthy and I’m quite sure it is possible to survive the vaccine, but for too many it is a ticking time bomb for future illness.
 
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