A New video - Blood - Shunning - Christs Inspection

[kirmmy]

That was a rhetorical question, the answer is obvious, yes they had blood. As far as "hybrids" go. Hybrids normally refer to two created races that are similar enough to reproduce but the offspring cannot. In Greek mythology that was not true of the stories that were clearly inspired by those demons living on the earth before the flood. I think the truth is we just don't know whether their offspring could reproduce, since they would not have been hybrids in the sense that that would normally apply. I think it was much worse than anything we can imagine. Adam's offspring were living nearly 1000 years, so how long would the Nephilim live? Their fathers will not die until Jehovah executes them? So again the answer is we just don't know.

Speaking of that. Hybrids don't do a lot to help regarding the theory of evolution, do they? God said "according to their kind" and it seems that is what happens. If natural selection only allows organisms that fit best within their environment then shouldn't hybrid breeding be a great way to advance "evolution". Ligers are massive and that gives them an advantage as a predator, a small edge anyway. Yet they can't breed, they're a dead end. Funny that...

And I think your thoughts on the nephy's offspring is on the money. If they reproduced it's not reported in the Bible but their attempts to breath water ended their ilk anyway.

 

[The God Pill]

Is there a verse that says the bastards were sterile? Texts in Qumran and Ethiopia allege multiple generations.

 

[Nomex]

Is there a verse that says the bastards were sterile? Texts in Qumran and Ethiopia allege multiple generations.

I think there really is no reason to think they couldn't breed. Those demon angels could create bodies and have "human" offspring, why couldn't they make sure their offspring were also able to breed. I mean Jehovah had not stopped them yet, so I think the realms of possibility of what they could do should not be restricted by our limited and narrow understanding of what they could or could not have done. They were already doing something outside of Jehovah's natural order, what else were they doing? I think we are going to find out a "pre-flood 2.0"

 

[Nomex]

Insight Vol1 pg 352 scripture Luke 24:39 Jesus words confirm no blood since he had sacrificed it once for all time. His comments confirm materialised angels don‘t have blood.

I'm sorry but that reasoning is as flimsy as Christendom claiming and believing they are going to have physical bodies in heaven made of "flesh and bone" because of the scripture that says "flesh and blood cannot enter heaven". Blood may belong to Jehovah, but that doesn't stop people from misusing it, why would that stop the demons from doing the same thing? Jehovah didn't stop Satan from lying to Eve, he didn't stop the demons from creating bodies to have "human" children, but according to this reasoning, Jehovah said, "but no you can't make human bodies with blood" Sorry not buying it. This is the same kind of reasoning the WT used to claim humans who are resurrected would not remarry or have children based on what Jesus said about what was clearly the first resurrection to heaven, which they finally revised after decades of telling us that, when the very purpose of creating humans was "be fruitful and fill the earth".

Sorry I respectfully disagree with this notion!

 

[The God Pill]

I'm sorry but that reasoning is as flimsy as Christendom claiming and believing they are going to have physical bodies in heaven made of "flesh and bone" because of the scripture that says "flesh and blood cannot enter heaven". Blood may belong to Jehovah, but that doesn't stop people from misusing it, why would that stop the demons from doing the same thing? Jehovah didn't stop Satan from lying to Eve, he didn't stop the demons from creating bodies to have "human" children, but according to this reasoning, Jehovah said, "but no you can't make human bodies with blood" Sorry not buying it. This is the same kind of reasoning the WT used to claim humans who are resurrected would not remarry or have children based on what Jesus said about what was clearly the first resurrection to heaven, which they finally revised after decades of telling us that, when the very purpose of creating humans was "be fruitful and fill the earth".

Sorry I respectfully disagree with this notion!

I've seen morons on YouTube claim in the ressurection people will have water instead of blood 😆 and that Adam and Eve didn't have blood till they sinned. If bloods so worthless why did perfect Jesus need to shed his. People are weird these days.

 

[Ms_ladyblue]

That was a rhetorical question, the answer is obvious, yes they had blood. As far as "hybrids" go. Hybrids normally refer to two created races that are similar enough to reproduce but the offspring cannot. In Greek mythology that was not true of the stories that were clearly inspired by those demons living on the earth before the flood. I think the truth is we just don't know whether their offspring could reproduce, since they would not have been hybrids in the sense that that would normally apply. I think it was much worse than anything we can imagine. Adam's offspring were living nearly 1000 years, so how long would the Nephilim live? Their fathers will not die until Jehovah executes them? So again the answer is we just don't know.

The rest of your comment though I think is spot on, not that I disagree, but I think their is just an element of unknown we just don't have definitive answers to. The Org acts like they know what Tartarus means, but if you use the Bible to interpret the Bible, there simply is no other passages in the Bible that use that term other than in 2 Peter. To me that verse simply describes the eventual outcome of their rebellion and current state of being removed from God's favor with no hope of redemption. Any other interpretation is simply speculation IMO!

That was a rhetorical question, the answer is obvious, yes they had blood. As far as "hybrids" go. Hybrids normally refer to two created races that are similar enough to reproduce but the offspring cannot. In Greek mythology that was not true of the stories that were clearly inspired by those demons living on the earth before the flood. I think the truth is we just don't know whether their offspring could reproduce, since they would not have been hybrids in the sense that that would normally apply. I think it was much worse than anything we can imagine. Adam's offspring were living nearly 1000 years, so how long would the Nephilim live? Their fathers will not die until Jehovah executes them? So again the answer is we just don't know.

The rest of your comment though I think is spot on, not that I disagree, but I think their is just an element of unknown we just don't have definitive answers to. The Org acts like they know what Tartarus means, but if you use the Bible to interpret the Bible, there simply is no other passages in the Bible that use that term other than in 2 Peter. To me that verse simply describes the eventual outcome of their rebellion and current state of being removed from God's favor with no hope of redemption. Any other interpretation is simply speculation IMO!

Not sure that your question was rhetorical but after thinking about the other comments made it made me think about this subject. Knowing that the Nephilim were hybrid, made me look up whether or not hybrids could reproduce. I went back to check it just now and the information did agree with what you stated about the offspring not being able to reproduce. I’m glad you spotted that Nomex. We have enough confusion going on as it is. But I was glad it brought a 🤣 for you! Ha ha 😝

I just thought it was so interesting when I got to thinking about this, but like you said, we just don’t know if their offspring could reproduce. I didn’t have this idea set in my mind or anything that’s why I posted it so I could find out others thoughts about it. I probably should’ve given it more thought. Anyway, thanks for your explanation and clarifying that for me.

 

[Ms_ladyblue]

Hi I got a reply on this ‘flesh and bones’ Insight Vol1 pg 352 scripture Luke 24:39 Jesus words confirm no blood since he had sacrificed it once for all time. His comments confirm materialised angels don‘t have blood. All blood belongs to Jehovah.
My thoughts is the angels that ‘ forsook their proper dwelling place’ mimicked human sperm but because they were genetically not from earth as were humans from the ‘dust of the earth’ this copy of sperm and no human soul (blood) meant it was faulty. Hence giants highbred children who were impotent. Creating extremely angry frustrated men. Not a nice combination. There may be others scriptures but not found them yet. I like his video 6 and 7 too.

Sounds like these giants that were created that came to be “extremely angry frustrated men“ had an over abundance of testosterone of some kind.

 

[The God Pill]

Sounds like these giants that were created that came to be “extremely angry frustrated men“ had an over abundance of testosterone of some kind.

What appears to have happened is they and there father's more or less enslaved mankind but as the giants numbers grew the humans couldn't provide them enough food to support there dietary needs so the hybrids started eating animals and even humans presumably the blood as well may have acquired a taste for it like today's adrenochrome junkies. The angels got rid of all or at least most of the hybrids as part of God's judgement by messing with their heads so they'd fight one another the younger generations of more watered down hybrids slain by the stronger prior generation they in turn slain in conflict with the eldest and them by one another as there corrupt angel progenitors were forced to stand by and watch there spawn die right before they were imprisoned underground in Tartarus. We don't know how much biological abnormality persisted if any but even with few or no giants left walking around nearly all mankind's hearts and minds were so corrupted by the teachings of the watchers especially that of Azazel and the rest of the five satans like the one that taught humans abortion that Jehovah felt regret and resolved to carry out the flood. The violence of that age more seemed like that the hybrids had been raised by angels that had lost respect for human life and grown elitist paired with Azazel's amusement by physical conflicts thing teaching weapons and armor and warfare etc than a bastards had hormones thing. Even though Shemyaza was the leader and the instigator of the whole mating with humans part Azazel was so wicked that in 1 enoch the whole weight of the pre flood mess was to be ascribed to him and in the Pentateuch one of the two goats of the day of atonement is associated with him.

 

[StillA_WorshiperOfJah]

Some hybrids can reproduce https://kids.frontiersin.org/articl...tile and can,breed and have fertile offspring.

 

[Ms_ladyblue]

What appears to have happened is they and there father's more or less enslaved mankind but as the giants numbers grew the humans couldn't provide them enough food to support there dietary needs so the hybrids started eating animals and even humans presumably the blood as well may have acquired a taste for it like today's adrenochrome junkies. The angels got rid of all or at least most of the hybrids as part of God's judgement by messing with their heads so they'd fight one another the younger generations of more watered down hybrids slain by the stronger prior generation they in turn slain in conflict with the eldest and them by one another as there corrupt angel progenitors were forced to stand by and watch there spawn die right before they were imprisoned underground in Tartarus. We don't know how much biological abnormality persisted if any but even with few or no giants left walking around nearly all mankind's hearts and minds were so corrupted by the teachings of the watchers especially that of Azazel and the rest of the five satans like the one that taught humans abortion that Jehovah felt regret and resolved to carry out the flood. The violence of that age more seemed like that the hybrids had been raised by angels that had lost respect for human life and grown elitist paired with Azazel's amusement by physical conflicts thing teaching weapons and armor and warfare etc than a bastards had hormones thing. Even though Shemyaza was the leader and the instigator of the whole mating with humans part Azazel was so wicked that in 1 enoch the whole weight of the pre flood mess was to be ascribed to him and in the Pentateuch one of the two goats of the day of atonement is associated with him.

Thanks for that insightful information GP. But I was just being sarcastic by the way. I know that testosterone can have that affect on you, especially if you have more of it which can be produced through intake of these hormones. My sarcasm wasn’t meant to be taken literally.
But thanks again for sharing this.

 

[Ms_ladyblue]

Speaking of that. Hybrids don't do a lot to help regarding the theory of evolution, do they? God said "according to their kind" and it seems that is what happens. If natural selection only allows organisms that fit best within their environment then shouldn't hybrid breeding be a great way to advance "evolution". Ligers are massive and that gives them an advantage as a predator, a small edge anyway. Yet they can't breed, they're a dead end. Funny that...

And I think your thoughts on the nephy's offspring is on the money. If they reproduced it's not reported in the Bible but their attempts to breath water ended their ilk anyway.

What is so funny @Nomex?
Most of @kirmmy comment made sense to me. Am I missing something?
No, really I’d like to know. 😁

 

[kirmmy]

Some hybrids can reproduce https://kids.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/frym.2019.00113#:~:text=Ligers are fertile and can,breed and have fertile offspring.

Well that's strange, I did a quick web search and found a page that said they couldn't.

On further investigation it seems they can but it says it's difficult for them, whatever that means. But they claim that mules can reproduce too.

I'm really confused now...

 

[Nomex]

What is so funny @Nomex?

This was funny and awesome!

Speaking of that. Hybrids don't do a lot to help regarding the theory of evolution, do they? God said "according to their kind" and it seems that is what happens. If natural selection only allows organisms that fit best within their environment then shouldn't hybrid breeding be a great way to advance "evolution".

I loved this comment and thought it was funny! Excellent point! This was the best part, and a mic drop! It made me laugh out loud!

Ligers are massive and that gives them an advantage as a predator, a small edge anyway. Yet they can't breed, they're a dead end.

 

[Ms_ladyblue]

This was funny and awesome!

I loved this comment and thought it was funny! Excellent point! This was the best part, and a mic drop! It made me laugh out loud!

Ok, @Nomex I’ve been known to not catch on as quickly as some when it comes to things like this. Like, when @kirmmy said hybrids do a lot to help regarding the theory of evolution etc. It made sense to me. But what was the mic drop about?
And what the heck is ligers???
( something tells me I should’ve never got in this conversation) 🤦‍♀️

 

[kirmmy]

Ok, @Nomex I’ve been known to not catch on as quickly as some when it comes to things like this. Like, when @kirmmy said hybrids do a lot to help regarding the theory of evolution etc. It made sense to me. But what was the mic drop about?
And what the heck is ligers???
( something tells me I should’ve never got in this conversation) 🤦‍♀️

Liger - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And their brethren:

Tigon - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Ms_ladyblue]

Liger - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And their brethren:

Tigon - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Thanks for the info @kirmmy
I have heard of hybrid fruits and vegetables.
Until I read up a little on hybrid hybrid monkeys/ chimpanzees a little bit yesterday, I did not know about the Liger and the Tigon or that they went to this extent with reproduction of the species.

Do you think this is a good thing? It seems as though they just become more inferior.

What about cloning? I remember the big story about Dolly the sheep they cloned. That’s probably another topic to itself.

 

[Paz]

That was a rhetorical question, the answer is obvious, yes they had blood. As far as "hybrids" go. Hybrids normally refer to two created races that are similar enough to reproduce but the offspring cannot. In Greek mythology that was not true of the stories that were clearly inspired by those demons living on the earth before the flood. I think the truth is we just don't know whether their offspring could reproduce, since they would not have been hybrids in the sense that that would normally apply. I think it was much worse than anything we can imagine. Adam's offspring were living nearly 1000 years, so how long would the Nephilim live? Their fathers will not die until Jehovah executes them? So again the answer is we just don't know.

The rest of your comment though I think is spot on, not that I disagree, but I think their is just an element of unknown we just don't have definitive answers to. The Org acts like they know what Tartarus means, but if you use the Bible to interpret the Bible, there simply is no other passages in the Bible that use that term other than in 2 Peter. To me that verse simply describes the eventual outcome of their rebellion and current state of being removed from God's favor with no hope of redemption. Any other interpretation is simply speculation IMO!

Hi I Agee Tartarus is spiritual separation from Jehovah and his family but both demons and Satan had access to heaven and Jehovah’s presence as is confirmed by Job account. I believe this separation took away there powers to put on bone and flesh. But Gods holy angels and Christ himself retained these abilities. The hybrid men born to earthly women prior to the flood would have blood from the DNA of their mothers. Sadly for them sterility. The pre flood population could have been over 241million without counting these giants. How many angels materialised ? These demons confirmed they knew they were to be abyssed by there pleadings with Jesus during his ministry.

 

[The God Pill]

The preflood population could have been even higher the portion of the septuagint timeline from Adam to Abraham is about a millennium and a half longer than the masoretic about a thousand years more preflood history and around five centuries more post flood time.

4 Certainly if God did not hold back from punishing the angels that sinned, but, by throwing them into Tarʹta·rus, delivered them to pits of dense darkness to be reserved for judgment;

Doesn't sound like merely getting the silent treatment in heaven.

 

[White Stone]

Tartarus is not just a spiritual condition but is a literal place of confinement for the spirits, just like there is a throne in heaven.

I wonder why would Peter use the word “Tartarus”, a word from greek mythology? This could be seen as a teaching from demons isn’t? But rather it is to give understanding to his fellow Jews who are learned in the greek culture—the greek-speaking Jews. By using a familiar theme to them, they could easily understand what Peter is teaching.

 

[The God Pill]

Tartarus debunks the hellfire doctrine because to the Greeks it was viewed as far below hades as hades/sheol is below the surface. The term conveys well it being a separate compartment hence people can't be being tortured by wicked angels in hell like christendom portrays.