About God's nature in regards to lying.

PJ54

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Recently, there have been discussions that brought up a point where it is said God cannot lie & considering He's supposed to be omnipotent, how can that be? I looked up some scriptures & came across these verses.
(Hebrews 6:18) 18 in order that through two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to the refuge may have strong encouragement to take firm hold of the hope set before us.

(Numbers 23:19) God is not a mere man who tells lies, Nor a son of man who changes his mind. When he says something, will he not do it? When he speaks, will he not carry it out?

(Titus 1:2) and is based on a hope of the everlasting life that God, who cannot lie, promised long ago;
It has bothered me for a bit considering theses things, yet reassuring that we know He shall not deceive us. One explanation I read on here is that it's against Jehovah's nature to speak of anything that is untrue. However, I have wondered perhaps that there might be a different reason as well. I went over a well mentioned verse in Isaiah that I'm sure many of you are familiar with & it hit me in such a way that might have clarified matters. Consider the verse:
(Isaiah 55:11) 11 So my word that goes out of my mouth will be. It will not return to me without results, But it will certainly accomplish whatever is my delight, And it will have sure success in what I send it to do.
Considering how this might show how powerful Jehovah really is, could it be due to the enormous power & said nature of that power that whatever He speaks, shall manifest in some manner? What do you guys think?
 

The God Pill

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The word in that verse might be Jesus he will succeed in whatever tasks Jehovah gives him etc. I look at it like polygraphs how our heart is inclined to respond whenever a lie is uttered lying is not natural to our heart Chakra and that's the central one obviously we are made in God's image so that is reflective of Jehovah. Independant of whether or not its possible God is love and Lying is against his nature
 
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w_stone

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God a deceiver? I thought the Devil was a deciever.I am confused?
 
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w_stone

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In the old Service meeting parts we were taught how to over come a house holder objection. That was by reasoning from the Scriptures.
 

The God Pill

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Wasn't that through the angels? I know the situation of Ahab played in such a manner.
People can try to sugarcoat it explain it away but it was a lying spirit. Jehovah or Jesus authorized the adversary to fool Ahab.

KJV

22 And the Lord said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.
 
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w_stone

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Jehovah is said to be hiding himself.He is allowing the Devil free rain.Up until the time he is Reveled.That is when the Christ(prince of Peace)is introduced by the 2 witnesses
 
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w_stone

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We're the signs of the Parsouria sign false.Or were they just misunderstood .The Devil is a master on how we intrupt things He deceived your understanding.(you surely will not die if you eat the fruit)
 
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w_stone

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For a finer point about the sign and the parsouria.Are we to believe that the 2 world wars.Are going to manifest in the future.,No All the things The wars the preaching have been manifest .But we're they the Presence of the Christ.No.That is near future.The Sign is one thing His Presence another.The sign has happen the wars the preach.The next thing is the Presence.
 
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