Are you homophobic ?? Better read latest jw article.

Watchman

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The article provides such little scriptural information it is clear that the WT wanted to paste a big banner up to score some points with the globalist agenda to promote homosexuality, transgenderism, and every other vile thing. If they were not trying to suck up to globalists they would have said something like, 'while Christians abhor homosexuality and transgender perversions, we do not hate persons who are ensnared in these sinful lifestyles that Jehovah hates.'
 

goldie

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The article provides such little scriptural information it is clear that the WT wanted to paste a big banner up to score some points with the globalist agenda to promote homosexuality, transgenderism, and every other vile thing. If they were not trying to suck up to globalists they would have said something like, 'while Christians abhor homosexuality and transgender perversions, we do not hate persons who are ensnared in these sinful lifestyles that Jehovah hates.'
Exactly my thoughts!!!
 

goldie

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Jehovah * God does not judge us by our nationality, race, skin color, or culture. Rather, he focuses on what really counts—what we are on the inside. Indeed, “mere man sees what appears to the eyes, but Jehovah sees into the heart.”—1 Samuel 16:7.
Above in article All true .. BUT HOMOSEXUALITY IS judged and condemned! It is not in the same category as race, culture or skin color!! These aren't sins! Homosexuality is a sin which jehovah hates!
 

Patricia

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The mistake was for them to even mention homophobia and xenophobia in the first place. There is nothing else in the article that has anything to do with that brand of discrimination or hatred. The whole article is generic.

As @Watchman said, it's a banner for the agenda, a way for them to earn some brownie points without really saying anything of substance. But that seems to be the norm here of late. Nothing of substance on any topic.

If they would've left that sentence out, I wouldn't have an issue other than it's for people who are total newbies to the knowledge of God. They have stopped feeding the flock and they've stopped standing up for truth.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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The moral standards have been eroded and ground in to dust during the post war generation. However, it is a mistake to assume that such behaviours were not very much a part of life beforehand. Certainly there were establishments that pandered to every appalling appetite, but in those days, other than with prostitution, it was kept under wraps. When it was exposed, it was scandalised. Now, there remains no shame, no scandal, no retribution, and people are no longer outraged and thus the outcomes have become normalised. When such things become normal, then there is less restraint for the yet unspeakable crimes against persons. And when those become ”normalised” worse crimes still, will emerge. There is now though, a new social norm arising that has not been seen before - and that is to apportion blame and “guilt”, discrimination and even criminalisation of those that still cling to what is right. The right to criticise or condemn moral standards - or lack of such, has been taken away and along with it, the right to individualism and personal exercising of conscience. With it, hot on its heals, is a demand for conformity in all things political as we see now with vaccines and the threat of compliance there - the right of government over the human body. It’s not as far fetched as one might think. During the pandemic of Spanish flu, in 1918 Britain jailed those who refused vaccination. Now watchtower has become Luke-warm in defining hate, as PJ states, and in separating hatred of what is bad with not hating the person. It seems as though watchtower is introducing “tolerance”. In context of their other actions, it seems very much an act of acquiescence on their part to the ways of the world. I was not expecting it from watchtower so soon. The flood gates are giving way.
 

PJ54

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The moral standards have been eroded and ground in to dust during the post war generation. However, it is a mistake to assume that such behaviours were not very much a part of life beforehand. Certainly there were establishments that pandered to every appalling appetite, but in those days, other than with prostitution, it was kept under wraps. When it was exposed, it was scandalised. Now, there remains no shame, no scandal, no retribution, and people are no longer outraged and thus the outcomes have become normalised. When such things become normal, then there is less restraint for the yet unspeakable crimes against persons. And when those become ”normalised” worse crimes still, will emerge. There is now though, a new social norm arising that has not been seen before - and that is to apportion blame and “guilt”, discrimination and even criminalisation of those that still cling to what is right. The right to criticise or condemn moral standards - or lack of such, has been taken away and along with it, the right to individualism and personal exercising of conscience. With it, hot on its heals, is a demand for conformity in all things political as we see now with vaccines and the threat of compliance there - the right of government over the human body. It’s not as far fetched as one might think. During the pandemic of Spanish flu, in 1918 Britain jailed those who refused vaccination. Now watchtower has become Luke-warm in defining hate, as PJ states, and in separating hatred of what is bad with not hating the person. It seems as though watchtower is introducing “tolerance”. In context of their other actions, it seems very much an act of acquiescence on their part to the ways of the world. I was not expecting it from watchtower so soon. The flood gates are giving way.
On point Barnaby! This came to mind:
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LifeLearning

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The article provides such little scriptural information it is clear that the WT wanted to paste a big banner up to score some points with the globalist agenda to promote homosexuality, transgenderism, and every other vile thing. If they were not trying to suck up to globalists they would have said something like, 'while Christians abhor homosexuality and transgender perversions, we do not hate persons who are ensnared in these sinful lifestyles that Jehovah hates.'
It's the watchtower equivalent of harvard posting a yellow and blue banner with the text "we stand with ukraine". Or the local post office putting a rainbow color flag on their homepage or in the building window.

The current phrase for this is "virtue signaling". That is, pandering to the social elite for acceptance.

End times indeed.
 

Hope

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It's the watchtower equivalent of harvard posting a yellow and blue banner with the text "we stand with ukraine". Or the local post office putting a rainbow color flag on their homepage or in the building window.

The current phrase for this is "virtue signaling". That is, pandering to the social elite for acceptance.

End times indeed.
Isn’t this the same as the media attack on Christians? Or am I missing something. I just look at TV and all the brainwashing going on. It just seems like the GB is just part of the world. So sad 😞
 

robins

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Isn’t this the same as the media attack on Christians? Or am I missing something. I just look at TV and all the brainwashing going on. It just seems like the GB is just part of the world. So sad 😞
The depths the GB has gone in several areas actually makes me sad. Or maybe i am mourning the facade of a loving and selfless organization that was willing to stand up against the world at all costs, and that it no longer- or maybe even never- existed.
 
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kirmmy

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The mistake was for them to even mention homophobia and xenophobia in the first place. There is nothing else in the article that has anything to do with that brand of discrimination or hatred. The whole article is generic.

As @Watchman said, it's a banner for the agenda, a way for them to earn some brownie points without really saying anything of substance. But that seems to be the norm here of late. Nothing of substance on any topic.

If they would've left that sentence out, I wouldn't have an issue other than it's for people who are total newbies to the knowledge of God. They have stopped feeding the flock and they've stopped standing up for truth.
I think it's more than that. It's a gateway article. The next article will be about how Gay marriage isn't even mentioned in the Bible so we should accept it or some such twaddle. Then there will be an article about how, although we can't condone homosexuality, we must learn to accept it or some more such twaddle. The slippery slope argument. But in this case they have definitely proven that they are on a slippery slope and they're gaining speed as they slip and slide down said slope.

We hate the sin, not the person. They are losing their hate of the sin. Still plenty of hate for "worldly people" and "apostates" though. /s

Amazing to see their disintegration happening before our eyes. Who do they think they're fooling with the shiny veneer of fake righteousness, their smarmy arrogance? Certainly not Jehovah, his Son or anyone else with their eyes open and interested in truth and true worship.
 

PJ54

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I think it's more than that. It's a gateway article. The next article will be about how Gay marriage isn't even mentioned in the Bible so we should accept it or some such twaddle. Then there will be an article about how, although we can't condone homosexuality, we must learn to accept it or some more such twaddle. The slippery slope argument. But in this case they have definitely proven that they are on a slippery slope and they're gaining speed as they slip and slide down said slope.

We hate the sin, not the person. They are losing their hate of the sin. Still plenty of hate for "worldly people" and "apostates" though. /s

Amazing to see their disintegration happening before our eyes. Who do they think they're fooling with the shiny veneer of fake righteousness, their smarmy arrogance? Certainly not Jehovah, his Son or anyone else with their eyes open and interested in truth and true worship.
At this rate the love is in the middle of cooling off.
 

CyndiaS

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The moral standards have been eroded and ground in to dust during the post war generation. However, it is a mistake to assume that such behaviours were not very much a part of life beforehand. Certainly there were establishments that pandered to every appalling appetite, but in those days, other than with prostitution, it was kept under wraps. When it was exposed, it was scandalised. Now, there remains no shame, no scandal, no retribution, and people are no longer outraged and thus the outcomes have become normalised. When such things become normal, then there is less restraint for the yet unspeakable crimes against persons. And when those become ”normalised” worse crimes still, will emerge. There is now though, a new social norm arising that has not been seen before - and that is to apportion blame and “guilt”, discrimination and even criminalisation of those that still cling to what is right. The right to criticise or condemn moral standards - or lack of such, has been taken away and along with it, the right to individualism and personal exercising of conscience. With it, hot on its heals, is a demand for conformity in all things political as we see now with vaccines and the threat of compliance there - the right of government over the human body. It’s not as far fetched as one might think. During the pandemic of Spanish flu, in 1918 Britain jailed those who refused vaccination. Now watchtower has become Luke-warm in defining hate, as PJ states, and in separating hatred of what is bad with not hating the person. It seems as though watchtower is introducing “tolerance”. In context of their other actions, it seems very much an act of acquiescence on their part to the ways of the world. I was not expecting it from watchtower so soon. The flood gates are giving way.
Well said 👏
 

Soul Sage

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The internet has this definition of the word "normie". It's defined as this -"Normie is a slang for a “normal person,” especially someone seen to have conventional, mainstream tastes, interests, viewpoints, etc. It is intended as an insult but often used ironically. Normie is also sometimes used by specific in-groups to refer and distinguish themselves from specific out-groups." - dictionary.com
Alot of the articles sound very "normie" like. The world is supposed to hate us like they hated Jesus Christ in his day. We know we are doing right if they hate us. I miss the fire JW used to have. If something is bad, call it out as such, don't go soft on something detestable to God.
 
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