Google Engineer Placed On Leave After Insisting Company's AI Is Sentient

Propaganda seems to be working. It's odd more and more people I talk to aren't even interested in longevity as low as 140 or even a meagre 90 years if I mention how much more one can learn or the lower cortisol if life's pace was modestly slowed that much.
 
kirmmy said:
I've never understood that Azimov stuff. It's like people think it's a program that will automatically be adopted by computers/robots. It needs to be programmed and if you don't bother you could get the Killbot 3000 if that's what you want. And the military certainly won't bother.
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There's a debate that I posted here months ago in an old thread. Worth checking it out!

A.I. take over in workforce.

Over the years I have noticed how many things have become automated from self-checkout registers to Bossa Nova inventory scanners. I doubt there will be much work to get considering things. What do you guys think? https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/renting-robots-less-minimum-wage-boon-companies
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kirmmy said:
I've never understood that Azimov stuff. It's like people think it's a program that will automatically be adopted by computers/robots. It needs to be programmed and if you don't bother you could get the Killbot 3000 if that's what you want. And the military certainly won't bother.
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It's just a premise from fiction. I was being tongue in cheek
 
kirmmy said:
I know, it's just everyone I talk to about the 3 laws of robotics think they're baked into AI, computers, robots. I don't think they realize it a fictional idea, not to mention extremely difficult, if not impossible, to implement.
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Which was a very important point in that debate from the AI Workforce thread.
 
Jahrule said:
I think this engineer is just a big drama queen. These AI chatter boxes have existed a long time. It's literally just a relational database and natural text processing. The machine doesn't have to understand anything. It goes back to the Chinese Room argument. Say you're in a box, and you've been given a set of instructions. People come and slip questions under the door written in a language you don't understand, in this case Chinese but can be any language you don't understand. If you see this symbol then do this, or if that symbol comes up then do that. Eventually you get so good at responding to these symbols a native Chinese speaker may think you understand Chinese. But you don't, nor do you need to because you're just responding based on the instructions you were given. An AI might be able to fool you into thinking it knows what it's talking about but that doesn't mean it truly understands. Of course, it may be impossible to determine the difference between a a very sophisticated illusion of sentience and legit sentience.

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If Satan were to assume control of AI, does it then become sentient?
If Satan were to assume control of AI, and humankind didn’t know of it, would humankind simply believe that AI had become sentient?
If Satan displayed lights in the sky, which move in such ways that are outside the bounds of human knowledge, would people believe they were extraterrestrial aliens?

See a pattern here?
 
BillyRay said:
If Satan were to assume control of AI, does it then become sentient?
If Satan were to assume control of AI, and humankind didn’t know of it, would humankind simply believe that AI had become sentient?
If Satan displayed lights in the sky, which move in such ways that are outside the bounds of human knowledge, would people believe they were extraterrestrial aliens?

See a pattern here?
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Project Blue Beam comes to mind.
 
BillyRay said:
If Satan were to assume control of AI, does it then become sentient?
If Satan were to assume control of AI, and humankind didn’t know of it, would humankind simply believe that AI had become sentient?
If Satan displayed lights in the sky, which move in such ways that are outside the bounds of human knowledge, would people believe they were extraterrestrial aliens?

See a pattern here?
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Makes sense to me.
 
PJ54 said:

Google FIRES senior software engineer who triggered panic by claiming firm’s artificial intelligence chatbot was sentient​

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He may well have had a point. Some of this artificial intelligence has exceeded basic human reasoning already and certainly puts politicians in their place. Should you feel the need to ”Ask Alexa” about 1914, she doesn’t even mention the watchtower. She hasn’t been taken in by watchtower apostate lies, so he is one up on eight million witnesses already! Can’t be bad.
 
BillyRay said:
If Satan were to assume control of AI, does it then become sentient?
If Satan were to assume control of AI, and humankind didn’t know of it, would humankind simply believe that AI had become sentient?
If Satan displayed lights in the sky, which move in such ways that are outside the bounds of human knowledge, would people believe they were extraterrestrial aliens?

See a pattern here?
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  • If Satan were to assume control of AI, does it then become sentient?
No. It would just be another puppet. Although Satan and the angels are probably highly intelligent, so I bet they could come closer to making AI work better than humans.

  • If Satan were to assume control of AI, and humankind didn’t know of it, would humankind simply believe that AI had become sentient?
Yes.

  • If Satan displayed lights in the sky, which move in such ways that are outside the bounds of human knowledge, would people believe they were extraterrestrial aliens?
Yes, and technically they would be right because Satan is not a legal citizen, nor was he born on this planet, literally making him extraterrestrial. No definition that I am aware of requires aliens to be physical beings.
 
Jahrule said:
  • If Satan were to assume control of AI, does it then become sentient?
No. It would just be another puppet. Although Satan and the angels are probably highly intelligent, so I bet they could come closer to making AI work better than humans.
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It does become sentient, in that Satan and his angels make it so. Whether it ever actually becomes sentient or not (not, being the more likely outcome) due to man’s hand. If the spirit creatures make it sentient, nobody will know. The world will simply think it’s an evolution of man’s creation.
 
BillyRay said:
It does become sentient, in that Satan and his angels make it so. Whether it ever actually becomes sentient or not (not, being the more likely outcome) due to man’s hand. If the spirit creatures make it sentient, nobody will know. The world will simply think it’s an evolution of man’s creation.
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In fact, one cannot make an electrical system have an awareness of it’s self. That would require it to be alive. Mimicking reasoning can only be accomplished if the information is available to the circuit to locate. The process of ‘intelligence’ then, can be mimicked and feeling can be mimicked by the choices available. It cannot though, reflect on the emotion of the issue. It cannot interpret loss and change inwardly or mimick any emotion other than to describe what has been made available to it to describe such. The same with faith. Mankind is unique in that it has the potential to develop beyond its known capabilities and is independent in its choice of values and can alter those choices with consideration of issues that are contrary to the seemingly right response. Satan does not need to inhabit AI, he IS AI - a liar, and he uses men to do his bidding by use of ‘artificial‘ truths all the time and he uses men to do his evil because it is men who will be judged and bear responsibility for his actions.
 
BARNABY THE DOG. said:
In fact, one cannot make an electrical system have an awareness of it’s self. That would require it to be alive. Mimicking reasoning can only be accomplished if the information is available to the circuit to locate. The process of ‘intelligence’ then, can be mimicked and feeling can be mimicked by the choices available. It cannot though, reflect on the emotion of the issue. It cannot interpret loss and change inwardly or mimick any emotion other than to describe what has been made available to it to describe such. The same with faith. Mankind is unique in that it has the potential to develop beyond its known capabilities and is independent in its choice of values and can alter those choices with consideration of issues that are contrary to the seemingly right response. Satan does not need to inhabit AI, he IS AI - a liar, and he uses men to do his bidding by use of ‘artificial‘ truths all the time and he uses men to do his evil because it is men who will be judged and bear responsibility for his actions.
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I agree 100% BtD but it could be a tool he will use to make himself more efficient. He can also use it to hide behind. Not having any insights to the spirit world, I don't know for sure.

If it parallels the physical world to an extent, then spirit creatures may be able to use tools as we do.
 
My understanding of sentience means it is self aware. A demon or Satan himself inhabiting a computer just means they are controlling the computer just like I'm doing right now as I communicate with all of you. The sentience you are currently reading in my post comes from me not the computer. I won't say it's impossible to create strong AI. We really don't know enough about sentience to make that kind of determination. But if we did it would be sentient because it itself is aware, not because it is being controlled to simulate intelligence by another intelligence. That's kinda cheating since the other intelligence is already sentient.

Speaking of computers being controlled by spirits. Here's an interesting video.
 
kirmmy said:
I agree 100% BtD but it could be a tool he will use to make himself more efficient. He can also use it to hide behind. Not having any insights to the spirit world, I don't know for sure.

If it parallels the physical world to an extent, then spirit creatures may be able to use tools as we do.
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Yes I expect you are right. A long time ago, when I was in the army, I found out that there are no depths to which the human being cannot descend. The same must be true of Satan. Call me Mr Cynical but I have never been disappointed In that finding.
 
Jahrule said:
My understanding of sentience means it is self aware. A demon or Satan himself inhabiting a computer just means they are controlling the computer just like I'm doing right now as I communicate with all of you. The sentience you are currently reading in my post comes from me not the computer. I won't say it's impossible to create strong AI. We really don't know enough about sentience to make that kind of determination. But if we did it would be sentient because it itself is aware, not because it is being controlled to simulate intelligence by another intelligence. That's kinda cheating since the other intelligence is already sentient.

Speaking of computers being controlled by spirits. Here's an interesting video.
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My God! That is like playing with a Ouija board. Pretty convincing for me that the demons will use comp technology...
 
Jahrule said:
My understanding of sentience means it is self aware. A demon or Satan himself inhabiting a computer just means they are controlling the computer just like I'm doing right now as I communicate with all of you. The sentience you are currently reading in my post comes from me not the computer. I won't say it's impossible to create strong AI. We really don't know enough about sentience to make that kind of determination. But if we did it would be sentient because it itself is aware, not because it is being controlled to simulate intelligence by another intelligence. That's kinda cheating since the other intelligence is already sentient.

Speaking of computers being controlled by spirits. Here's an interesting video.
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Aaaarrrrgggghhhh Jahrule has possessed my laptop and is speaking to me and sending me video visions!
 
kirmmy said:
My God! That is like playing with a Ouija board. Pretty convincing for me that the demons will use comp technology...
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I was thinking the same thing. It's an effective way to communicate with humans without giving up plausible deniability.
 
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