HLC Letter

Cristo

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I’m curious what medical studies they are referring to that show those who have taken the vaccine have lower or less sever Covid19 reactions. Many people who get Covid19, and who have not been vaccinated, don’t even know they had Covid. You can’t really get less severe than not knowing you’re even infected because you’re asymptomatic. Many who got the shot have died of Covid, so you can’t get any more severe than that. They are implying something that is completely unable to be validated by a medical study. You simply cannot prove that a person got less sick because they took the vaccine.
 

Watchman

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Staff member
So basically the WT is admitting that the vaccine that Jehovah supposedly endorsed is not very effective in providing immunity. The best they can say about it is that when a vaccinated person contracts Covid they don't get as sick as they would have without the shots. Big deal. The same is true about a lot of other medicines like ivermectin.
 

Ireneo

Well-known member
thanks for the letter
Little by little they are advancing with the idea
They are like the rungs of the ladder
Then they will conclude that the elders must set the example in respecting life
They will say the same of the precursors
Finally, they will conclude that every Christian must show that he loves his neighbor by vaccinating himself.
In my city there is a brother of the liaison committee who did not get vaccinated
I have never talked to him about it.
But he is old for years and he is extremely intelligent
I think he is very clear that the vaccine is harmful
I'm sorry why he loves his assignment and it will be taken away implying that he doesn't love others
It is extremely unpleasant to be judged in this way
It causes a lot of pain to strive to do good and feel that others think we are unfaithful to Jehovah

but there is consolation

christ said

10 “Happy are those who have been persecuted+ for the sake of righteousness, since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them.
11 “Happy are YOU when they reproach you+ and persecute you+ and falsely say all sorts of wicked things against you for my sake. 12 Rejoice and leap for joy,+ since your reward+ is great in the heavens; for in that way they persecuted the prophets+ before you.
 

BagdadBill

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I take it that includes any booster that may be required eg age group or vulnerable group or is it the first 2 shots? What does fully vaccinated include?
Fully vaccinated means every time they scream that it's booster time, you jump out of your chair and rush down there to take it.
The GB is inching their way toward segregation. Their lawyers likely won't allow them to make demands past this.

The avalanche is coming soon.
 

Ireneo

Well-known member
That card shows us where they're going

Members of the liaison committee must be vaccinated to protect the siblings they care for
The elders also dress brothers in the shepherding and take care of them
Pioneers conduct studies in people's homes
it's exactly the same

I think a very, very ugly and unpleasant letter is coming, let's all get ready

The Gibeonites theme of the assembly hinted at
We can feel like "mighty warriors" but they will put us to collect firewood (and maybe not even that) and we should be grateful
Or like Mephibosheth
in the representation of the removed old man he ended up KNEELING before the brother who removed him (To give him his pencil)
Was it chance that he knelt before the one who unjustly removed him?
This is all manipulation at the highest level

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White Stone

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That card shows us where they're going

Members of the liaison committee must be vaccinated to protect the siblings they care for
The elders also dress brothers in the shepherding and take care of them
Pioneers conduct studies in people's homes
it's exactly the same

I think a very, very ugly and unpleasant letter is coming, let's all get ready

The Gibeonites theme of the assembly hinted at
We can feel like "mighty warriors" but they will put us to collect firewood (and maybe not even that) and we should be grateful
Or like Mephibosheth
in the representation of the removed old man he ended up KNEELING before the brother who removed him (To give him his pencil)
Was it chance that he knelt before the one who unjustly removed him?
This is all manipulation at the highest level

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So much symbolism. Yes, the sunday morning part 1 shows to us that we must obey Gb as how we obey Jehovah Himself. They are now elevating their throne to God. Unless the restrictions were removed, the direction will double down to get the jab. This convention have prepared or rather deeply ingrained the thought that the flock should follow blindly the directions given by the GB at all cost. Would instructions come soon to get the jab or else, get shunned secretly or worse,disfellowshipped?
 

kirmmy

Well-known member
I’m curious what medical studies they are referring to that show those who have taken the vaccine have lower or less sever Covid19 reactions. Many people who get Covid19, and who have not been vaccinated, don’t even know they had Covid. You can’t really get less severe than not knowing you’re even infected because you’re asymptomatic. Many who got the shot have died of Covid, so you can’t get any more severe than that. They are implying something that is completely unable to be validated by a medical study. You simply cannot prove that a person got less sick because they took the vaccine.
They are adverse to statistics and evidence, that's how. How long has it been since this nonsense started? And yet they are one of many doubling down on the stupidity. Insane!

That card shows us where they're going

Members of the liaison committee must be vaccinated to protect the siblings they care for
The elders also dress brothers in the shepherding and take care of them
Pioneers conduct studies in people's homes
it's exactly the same

I think a very, very ugly and unpleasant letter is coming, let's all get ready

The Gibeonites theme of the assembly hinted at
We can feel like "mighty warriors" but they will put us to collect firewood (and maybe not even that) and we should be grateful
Or like Mephibosheth
in the representation of the removed old man he ended up KNEELING before the brother who removed him (To give him his pencil)
Was it chance that he knelt before the one who unjustly removed him?
This is all manipulation at the highest level

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My God, that is shocking. That drama on the Gibeonites sounds so orwellian. I had to laugh at the illustration. Now even the WBTS is subject to the meme lords. :)
 

Soul Sage

Well-known member
Now to encourage brothers and sisters and even family members in the hospital You must be baptized in the vaccine. What about a mask while visiting in the hospital? Oh yeah, that's right. They want us to wear the masks cause they know some JW's refuse to get vaccinated. And that's the pressure tactic. That's not even biblical.
 

Soul Sage

Well-known member
They are adverse to statistics and evidence, that's how. How long has it been since this nonsense started? And yet they are one of many doubling down on the stupidity. Insane!


My God, that is shocking. That drama on the Gibeonites sounds so orwellian. I had to laugh at the illustration. Now even the WBTS is subject to the meme lords. :)

Studying the example of the Gibeonites. Even though they were enemies of God, they submitted themselves to fearing him. Which is an example that not only Jehovah Witnesses will be saved at Armageddon but those that Jehovah found that have a good heart and fear him, Jehovah will make an exception for them. It could be an officer and soldier that dissents from the Antichrist persecution on us and ends up helping JW's to escape or defends us with their own life. I can't see why Jehovah wouldn't save them just cause they weren't a baptized JW. Very much likening such a person as a Gibeonite for his good deed to us.
 

Jess

Well-known member
So much symbolism. Yes, the sunday morning part 1 shows to us that we must obey Gb as how we obey Jehovah Himself. They are now elevating their throne to God. Unless the restrictions were removed, the direction will double down to get the jab. This convention have prepared or rather deeply ingrained the thought that the flock should follow blindly the directions given by the GB at all cost. Would instructions come soon to get the jab or else, get shunned secretly or worse,disfellowshipped?
I watched this yesterday and it was really hard. The masks and vaccines are not Jehovah's direction and to claim that is Blasphemy. Pure and simple. How can we trust anything else they tell us to do when we see such destruction from this vaccine?! Well I have anyhow in my life, that's for sure. Maybe not everyone else.
 

Nomex

Well-known member
Let me translate the "WT speak" letter. "While the decision to be vaccinated is a personal one, we have decided if you really are one of Jehovah's Witnesses I.E. a "good Witness" and not a rebellious Korah class type person who believes in "personal freedom", that is to say you actually take reasonable steps to protect life, as long as the Covid-19 vaccine is available to you, you will need to be fully vaccinated against Covid-19."

BTW, this is and has been against the law the entire time, because requiring an EUA vaccine, which all of this vaccine remain EUA vaccines, is a violation of international laws and treaties including the laws passed at the Nuremberg hearings.
 

Patricia

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Let me translate the "WT speak" letter. "While the decision to be vaccinated is a personal one, we have decided if you really are one of Jehovah's Witnesses I.E. a "good Witness" and not a rebellious Korah class type person who believes in "personal freedom", that is to say you actually take reasonable steps to protect life, as long as the Covid-19 vaccine is available to you, you will need to be fully vaccinated against Covid-19."

BTW, this is and has been against the law the entire time, because requiring an EUA vaccine, which all of this vaccine remain EUA vaccines, is a violation of international laws and treaties including the laws passed at the Nuremberg hearings.
Meh, what's a law these days. Governments are picking and choosing which ones they like and don't like. Which to enforce or ignore. Oh and who has to obey and who gets a pass. So the GB is just taking a cue from the governments. Doesn't make it right. But it's just par for the course IMO. At this point I personally don't expect anything more or better from them. It makes me sad but.....😥💦🌂🚽
 

Soul Sage

Well-known member
The odd thing is also that the GB is enforcing stricter mandates than the hospital itself. A mask is most likely mandatory for entering the hospital but you don't have to tell the hospital your vaccine status. That's an overreach. Someone in my family does HLC. He only got one vaccine. I guess he needs all his booster shots too now just to comply. It's not right to restrict ones ability to help a person in need just cause of vaccination status. In fact, it's disgusting.
 

Yupyup_yup

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I take it that includes any booster that may be required eg age group or vulnerable group or is it the first 2 shots? What does fully vaccinated include?

Especially in Canada where it's "up-to-date" every 9 months minimum forever....

Because apparently Jehovah is using this worlds pharmaceutical companies to save His people during the last days according to the gb
 
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