Impossible question?

SkinnyAndShort

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For years this question has stumped me with no answer that could be given, or at least made any sense. Simple question but the bible does not seem to shed light on it, the question is Mark 12:18-27

Now, the SadDucees (who say there’s no such thing as a resurrection) then came to [Jesus] and said:19‘Teacher, Moses wrote that a brother of any man who dies and leaves his woman without a child should take his woman and sire offspring for him.20‘So, let’s say that there were seven brothers. The first one took a woman [as his wife], but he died without offspring. 21Then the second took her, but he also died without offspring, as did the third, and so on… 22Therefore, none of the seven left her with any offspring.‘And finally, she also died.23‘So... Whose wife will she be in the resurrection, since all seven of them had her as theirs?’24Then Jesus replied:‘This is why you’re so misled, because you don’t understand the Scriptures or the power of God!25‘When the dead are resurrected, they won’t marry or be married, because they’ll be like [God’s] messengers in the heavens.26‘And when it comes to the dead that will be raised – haven’t you read in the book about Moses (in the story about the thorn bush) that God said to him:‘I am the God of AbraHam, the God of IsaAc, and the God of Jacob?’27‘Notice that He isn’t the God of the dead, but of the living!‘Yes, you’re very misled!’

So Jesus seems to be referring to the 144,000 with his answer due to the fact he mentions they will not marry and will be like the angels, so then what is the answer if we are talking about those who will live in paradise? Now would the Saducees be asking Jesus this question with the thought in mind of being part of the 144,000? More than likely not, they were asking with the thought of living on earth.
 

SkinnyAndShort

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I understand he was speaking about the 144,000, but what is the answer to the suducces when referring to the second resurrection, that really is my question.
 

Watchman

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In modern wedding vows husband and wife pledge to remain married until death do us part. That is an obvious truth. The answer to your question is when the dead come back to life everyone will be in an unmarried state. Former husbands and wives may choose to remarry each other. No doubt many will. But others may choose another mate or choose to remain unmarried. The new world will be a fresh start for everyone.
 

Niobium

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In modern wedding vows husband and wife pledge to remain married until death do us part. That is an obvious truth. The answer to your question is when the dead come back to life everyone will be in an unmarried state. Former husbands and wives may choose to remarry each other. No doubt many will. But others may choose another mate or choose to remain unmarried. The new world will be a fresh start for everyone.
Succinctly put indeed. How could it be any other way? "Look! I am making all things new"
 

Fallen

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In modern wedding vows husband and wife pledge to remain married until death do us part. That is an obvious truth. The answer to your question is when the dead come back to life everyone will be in an unmarried state. Former husbands and wives may choose to remarry each other. No doubt many will. But others may choose another mate or choose to remain unmarried. The new world will be a fresh start for everyone.
I laugh because I know for a fact my wife is going to give me the "Deuces". LMAO!
 

SkinnyAndShort

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In modern wedding vows husband and wife pledge to remain married until death do us part. That is an obvious truth. The answer to your question is when the dead come back to life everyone will be in an unmarried state. Former husbands and wives may choose to remarry each other. No doubt many will. But others may choose another mate or choose to remain unmarried. The new world will be a fresh start for everyone.
Well I have never heard this answer before, it actually makes sense.
 

Niobium

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I laugh because I know for a fact my wife is going to give me the "Deuces". LMAO!
I’ve often wonder about that.
Husband says “ I’ve been waiting so long for you to be resurrected. Let’s continue our life together as husband and wife again” ( or something more romantically phrased) But former wife says “ No thanks. Once was enough “ 😞
Hmm …what happens then? I guess there could be a number of scenarios that might unfold.
Is this an impossible to answer question too?
 

Medi-tator

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I guess there could be a number of scenarios that might unfold.
Jehovah tells us that he will satisfy the desire of every living thing. In order to do that he might have to undo the "desires" of some upon their resurrection.
Example: The guy dies. Forty years later he is resurrected. His last thought before his untimely death was how much he loved his wife. Within that forty year period, the wife remarries and both she and her new husband are there to greet the former husband back to life. I am absolutely convinced and confident that Jehovah will make an adjustment in the first husband's psyche which will enable him to be happy for his wife and honored to meet her current and forever husband. As the saying goes, " Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God."
 
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Niobium

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Jehovah tells us that he will satisfy the desire of every living thing. In order to do that he might have to undo the "desires" of some upon their resurrection.
Example: The guy dies. Forty years later he is resurrected. His last thought before his untimely death was how much he loved his wife. Within that forty year period, the wife remarries and both her and her new husband are there to greet the former husband back to life. I am absolutely convinced and confident that Jehovah will make an adjustment in the first husband's psyche which will enable him to be happy for his wife and honored to meet her current and forever husband. As the saying goes, " Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God."
It can’t be denied that might be one scenario. After all we are told in Isaiah 55:9
For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So my ways are higher than your ways

I’m sure that Jehovah has all bases covered but it’s human nature to ponder over these situations I guess.
 

kenmuldoon55

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For years this question has stumped me with no answer that could be given, or at least made any sense. Simple question but the bible does not seem to shed light on it, the question is Mark 12:18-27

Now, the SadDucees (who say there’s no such thing as a resurrection) then came to [Jesus] and said:19‘Teacher, Moses wrote that a brother of any man who dies and leaves his woman without a child should take his woman and sire offspring for him.20‘So, let’s say that there were seven brothers. The first one took a woman [as his wife], but he died without offspring. 21Then the second took her, but he also died without offspring, as did the third, and so on… 22Therefore, none of the seven left her with any offspring.‘And finally, she also died.23‘So... Whose wife will she be in the resurrection, since all seven of them had her as theirs?’24Then Jesus replied:‘This is why you’re so misled, because you don’t understand the Scriptures or the power of God!25‘When the dead are resurrected, they won’t marry or be married, because they’ll be like [God’s] messengers in the heavens.26‘And when it comes to the dead that will be raised – haven’t you read in the book about Moses (in the story about the thorn bush) that God said to him:‘I am the God of AbraHam, the God of IsaAc, and the God of Jacob?’27‘Notice that He isn’t the God of the dead, but of the living!‘Yes, you’re very misled!’

So Jesus seems to be referring to the 144,000 with his answer due to the fact he mentions they will not marry and will be like the angels, so then what is the answer if we are talking about those who will live in paradise? Now would the Saducees be asking Jesus this question with the thought in mind of being part of the 144,000? More than likely not, they were asking with the thought of living on earth.
Perhaps because they used a tricky riddle to try to trip Jesus up, he truthfully countered with an equally tricky reply which only applied to a class of resurrected ones the Sadducee’s had no knowledge of namely the 144000 class.
 

Soul Sage

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What would happen to those that had multiple wives in the Bible that are resurrected? Seems like it would make a crazy reality TV show to see that drama unfold. Though when we get resurrected, we will all have a mindset change. Those that had mental traumas in the past, those things won't come to mind. It would be like we were born again as innocent children. It's why Jesus Christ said to his apostles and the crowd around them, "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven” -Matthew 18:3–4.

Many of us have lost our innocence due to all the troubling things happening in the world but well get it back in the resurrection. Which would bring peace of mind to all.
 

kenmuldoon55

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What would happen to those that had multiple wives in the Bible that are resurrected? Seems like it would make a crazy reality TV show to see that drama unfold. Though when we get resurrected, we will all have a mindset change. Those that had mental traumas in the past, those things won't come to mind. It would be like we were born again as innocent children. It's why Jesus Christ said to his apostles and the crowd around them, "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven” -Matthew 18:3–4.

Many of us have lost our innocence due to all the troubling things happening in the world but well get it back in the resurrection. Which would bring peace of mind to all.
If resurrected formerly married persons wanted to remarry their former mate or someone else, why not? I don’t think the emotional bond between two persons is severed at death.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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What would happen to those that had multiple wives in the Bible that are resurrected? Seems like it would make a crazy reality TV show to see that drama unfold. Though when we get resurrected, we will all have a mindset change. Those that had mental traumas in the past, those things won't come to mind. It would be like we were born again as innocent children. It's why Jesus Christ said to his apostles and the crowd around them, "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven” -Matthew 18:3–4.

Many of us have lost our innocence due to all the troubling things happening in the world but well get it back in the resurrection. Which would bring peace of mind to all.
Jehovah has said that we will all be content in the new system. It will be a joy. How then can He be so cruel as to land some guy with loads of past wives and for ETERNITY! Come on! To the contrary, He says in Revelation 21 that “ there will neither be pain, nor outcry any more, for the former wives have past away and will not be brought to mind….” .
 

kenmuldoon55

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Jehovah has said that we will all be content in the new system. It will be a joy. How then can He be so cruel as to land some guy with loads of past wives and for ETERNITY! Come on! To the contrary, He says in Revelation 21 that “ there will neither be pain, nor outcry any more, for the former wives have past away and will not be brought to mind….” .
I wonder about married couples who happen to survive Armageddon who perhaps got married for all the wrong reasons and simply suffered through their married years out of loyalty to Jehovahs arrangement of marriage but were never really happy together. Would they be given an out?
 

Fallen

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I wonder about married couples who happen to survive Armageddon who perhaps got married for all the wrong reasons and simply suffered through their married years out of loyalty to Jehovahs arrangement of marriage but were never really happy together. Would they be given an out?
Just my 2 cents: We've all seen movies or heard about people who absolutely hated one another. And suddenly a cataclysmic even occures to where they are forced to work together in order to survive. During that time, their perspectives of one another change. The way the see eachother change. They become softer twards one another. Kinder...gentler. I suppose it'll be the same way during The Great Tribulation. Hard times have a way of changing people. Bringing them together and changing them not necessarily for the worst, but for the better.
 

kenmuldoon55

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Just my 2 cents: We've all seen movies or heard about people who absolutely hated one another. And suddenly a cataclysmic even occures to where they are forced to work together in order to survive. During that time, their perspectives of one another change. The way the see eachother change. They become softer twards one another. Kinder...gentler. I suppose it'll be the same way during The Great Tribulation. Hard times have a way of changing people. Bringing them together and changing them not necessarily for the worst, but for the better.
I thought about that and it makes a lot of sense.
Kind of like the close bond soldiers share who’ve been through near death experiences.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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I wonder about married couples who happen to survive Armageddon who perhaps got married for all the wrong reasons and simply suffered through their married years out of loyalty to Jehovahs arrangement of marriage but were never really happy together. Would they be given an out?
Well, we are to believe that death ends a relationship, and so I do not think that remarriage is a must, but some would want to I’m sure. Loyalty is on the cusp of love in many respects and there are aspects of love in all things marital, along with permanence and sufficiency. Even in perfection there will be perceived faults in a partner, yet the ability to over-ride those things will also be present. However, I see in perfection an enduring marriage. Two become one and in perfection, that must be a thing of beauty, mentally as well as physically. It would of course exclude all others because we are all individual and individuals do not divest themselves of their sense of being. I think marriage will become stronger and the unity of male and female become one in a degree yet to be realised. It seems to be reflected in the relationships and attributes of Jehovah, the lamb and his marriage, the faithful - those that live the essence of the attributes of Jehovah. I do not think it a pipe dream of romance, but a bond that encapsulates the spiritual and our sense of being and needs as human beings. As we are, we are not whole. We need a partner to realise what we are - at least, that is what I feel. It may be different for others, but I’m not sure it is supposed to be!
 
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