Interesting post-Glenn Beck on Putin's speech..thoughts?

Soul Sage

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I saw this earlier in the day. I see many christians saying how great Russia is for Christians. Saying insane things, like, Russia has christian values. Yet, they ban the preaching work in Russia and liquidate kingdom halls. Dungen, is a very smart man, it's why he has a lot of influence in Russia and why the deep state tried assassinating him but instead his daughter walked into that trap as the car blew up as she started the engine. But they all have deep ties to the Russian Orthodox church, the sanctioned religion of Russia. They are like medieval levels of so called Christians. You call yourself a Christian and don't believe in the Trinity doctrine? Heretic! You be burned alive in the public square like William Tyndale was but instead they put you in jail.

It's my belief that Jehovah set Russia as targets for persecuting real Christians. It explains why there is so much animosity towards Russia at the moment. I wish Glen Beck mentioned JW getting persecuted in Russia though.
 

MickHewitt

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I saw this earlier in the day. I see many christians saying how great Russia is for Christians. Saying insane things, like, Russia has christian values. Yet, they ban the preaching work in Russia and liquidate kingdom halls. Dungen, is a very smart man, it's why he has a lot of influence in Russia and why the deep state tried assassinating him but instead his daughter walked into that trap as the car blew up as she started the engine. But they all have deep ties to the Russian Orthodox church, the sanctioned religion of Russia. They are like medieval levels of so called Christians. You call yourself a Christian and don't believe in the Trinity doctrine? Heretic! You be burned alive in the public square like William Tyndale was but instead they put you in jail.

It's my belief that Jehovah set Russia as targets for persecuting real Christians. It explains why there is so much animosity towards Russia at the moment. I wish Glen Beck mentioned JW getting persecuted in Russia though.
Watchtowers affiliation of 10yrs with UN as an NGO gave Russia cause to label them as terrorists. NGO's are used as deep state fifth column operatives; ofcourse our brothers and sisters are not aware but how can the Russian security services differentiate between an honest Jehovah's witness or an enemy of the state? The damage that watchtower has done in Jehovah's Name!
 

IraJ

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I saw this earlier in the day. I see many christians saying how great Russia is for Christians. Saying insane things, like, Russia has christian values. Yet, they ban the preaching work in Russia and liquidate kingdom halls. Dungen, is a very smart man, it's why he has a lot of influence in Russia and why the deep state tried assassinating him but instead his daughter walked into that trap as the car blew up as she started the engine. But they all have deep ties to the Russian Orthodox church, the sanctioned religion of Russia. They are like medieval levels of so called Christians. You call yourself a Christian and don't believe in the Trinity doctrine? Heretic! You be burned alive in the public square like William Tyndale was but instead they put you in jail.

It's my belief that Jehovah set Russia as targets for persecuting real Christians. It explains why there is so much animosity towards Russia at the moment. I wish Glen Beck mentioned JW getting persecuted in Russia though.
Yes, i wish Glenn would have mentioned what has been going on with the JW over there.
 

IraJ

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Watchtowers affiliation of 10yrs with UN as an NGO gave Russia cause to label them as terrorists. NGO's are used as deep state fifth column operatives; ofcourse our brothers and sisters are not aware but how can the Russian security services differentiate between an honest Jehovah's witness or an enemy of the state? The damage that watchtower has done in Jehovah's Name!
I never thought of that, very true!
 

BagdadBill

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Watchtowers affiliation of 10yrs with UN as an NGO gave Russia cause to label them as terrorists. NGO's are used as deep state fifth column operatives; ofcourse our brothers and sisters are not aware but how can the Russian security services differentiate between an honest Jehovah's witness or an enemy of the state? The damage that watchtower has done in Jehovah's Name!
Of course the UN is based pretty much NATO EU and that line of power.
 

BagdadBill

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I saw this earlier in the day. I see many christians saying how great Russia is for Christians. Saying insane things, like, Russia has christian values. Yet, they ban the preaching work in Russia and liquidate kingdom halls. Dungen, is a very smart man, it's why he has a lot of influence in Russia and why the deep state tried assassinating him but instead his daughter walked into that trap as the car blew up as she started the engine. But they all have deep ties to the Russian Orthodox church, the sanctioned religion of Russia. They are like medieval levels of so called Christians. You call yourself a Christian and don't believe in the Trinity doctrine? Heretic! You be burned alive in the public square like William Tyndale was but instead they put you in jail.

It's my belief that Jehovah set Russia as targets for persecuting real Christians. It explains why there is so much animosity towards Russia at the moment. I wish Glen Beck mentioned JW getting persecuted in Russia though.
Beck may not have dug deep enough to see what happened to JWs in Russia. Either way, most people don't typically mention us unless there is a slant they can cast our way. It puts some people off to even hear Jehovah's name aloud.
You can bet that whatever church they have left in Russia, probably just the Russian Orthodox, that it is controlled and only by permission. Soon enough though, this will be the situation everywhere.
 

Jennifer

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I’ve always thought we were being played by both sides and yes, I absolutely know how ugly and evil and full of lies the British Empire is. They’ve always wanted their NWO and they will have it as we all know, but how can they have it if they don’t have their constant, never ending boogeyman in place regardless of who it is? The eyes of the world have to believe in this ever present boogeyman - in this instance Putin - so that they can be divided, as always, then have someone to blame when WWIII breaks out. Bad Putin.

The 8th king rises to “save” mankind. As if people are not going to praise it, worship it, clamour to it. “We’ve been rescued from bad Putin “ And it’ll be the wicked empire rising who caused it all in the first place! I don’t see how any of this can go to plan without their evil villain (Putin) in place beforehand. He’s been painted as the good guy by many but only the minority, I’ve read and listened to an insane amount of information from the LaRouche Organisation which seems absolutely legit but are they being played? They’re not stupid. The empire cannot allow itself to fail. “Oh let’s provoke Putin and hope that he bites?” No. They have to be certain beyond all doubt that he will bite. And I believe he’s playing his part to a tee. Eroding Christian values, the family etc etc. well yeah, that’s been the plan for at least 100 years. If I know this so does he.

Just putting my thoughts here. I agree with Glenn, he is being logical. I am very suspicious of anyone in power and always have been. Theatre…all the world’s a stage. Absolutely! It doesn’t bother me if I sound crazy 😜 lol but honestly, this world is the pits. Nothing but a cabal of lying, scheming, murdering, thieving psychopaths down through the centuries.

At the end of the day, it just doesn’t matter about Putin. We know the end of the story. What an incredible mess this world is in and the majority don’t have a clue. At least they’re fulfilling prophecy

Thanks for this video IraJ. Really good. Very interesting
 

The God Pill

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Alexander is a nut before he came up with the "fourth political theory" he tried to synthesize Nazism and Communism into a National Bolshevism hybrid. I've only read parts of his books but his approach to ideology boils down to Russia good America bad statist collectivism good classical liberalism bad. I think his influence over Russia and Putin is grossly exaggerated by russophobic fear mongers the man himself calls Putin a liberal.

I agree that Russia's government wants the Russian orthodox church to have a near monopoly in the Christian sphere but I wouldn't say monopoly in religion in general I remember Putin phrasing it like that the official religions are Judaism Islam Buddhism and Orthodox Christianity. As for them being "all medieval" historically with persecution they are not like the catholics they certainly are comfortable advocating banning denominations but are neutral when it comes to inquisition style horrors leaving governmental treatment of those outside the religious Overton window to the state's judgement.

The post soviet situation of JW's in Russia has more to do with perceived American affiliation than anything and it is not unique I remember in 2017 going over the data and every one of the five Christian denominations the Russians suppress are protestant denomination that started in America that evangelize.
 
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IraJ

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I’ve always thought we were being played by both sides and yes, I absolutely know how ugly and evil and full of lies the British Empire is. They’ve always wanted their NWO and they will have it as we all know, but how can they have it if they don’t have their constant, never ending boogeyman in place regardless of who it is? The eyes of the world have to believe in this ever present boogeyman - in this instance Putin - so that they can be divided, as always, then have someone to blame when WWIII breaks out. Bad Putin.

The 8th king rises to “save” mankind. As if people are not going to praise it, worship it, clamour to it. “We’ve been rescued from bad Putin “ And it’ll be the wicked empire rising who caused it all in the first place! I don’t see how any of this can go to plan without their evil villain (Putin) in place beforehand. He’s been painted as the good guy by many but only the minority, I’ve read and listened to an insane amount of information from the LaRouche Organisation which seems absolutely legit but are they being played? They’re not stupid. The empire cannot allow itself to fail. “Oh let’s provoke Putin and hope that he bites?” No. They have to be certain beyond all doubt that he will bite. And I believe he’s playing his part to a tee. Eroding Christian values, the family etc etc. well yeah, that’s been the plan for at least 100 years. If I know this so does he.

Just putting my thoughts here. I agree with Glenn, he is being logical. I am very suspicious of anyone in power and always have been. Theatre…all the world’s a stage. Absolutely! It doesn’t bother me if I sound crazy 😜 lol but honestly, this world is the pits. Nothing but a cabal of lying, scheming, murdering, thieving psychopaths down through the centuries.

At the end of the day, it just doesn’t matter about Putin. We know the end of the story. What an incredible mess this world is in and the majority don’t have a clue. At least they’re fulfilling prophecy

Thanks for this video IraJ. Really good. Very interesting
Thank You Jennifer for your input and totally agree with all you have said..Prophecy fulfilment right before our very eyes, stark raving lunatics in operation all over the globe, some crazy shiz going on alright and we aint seen nothing yet! And yes we know the end story just got to handle these next few chapters lol
 

IraJ

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Alexander is a nut before he came up with the "fourth political theory" he tried to synthesize Nazism and Communism into a National Bolshevism hybrid. I've only read parts of his books but his approach to ideology boils down to Russia good America bad collectivism good classical liberalism bad. I think his influence over Russia and Putin is grossly exaggerated by russophobic fear mongers the man himself calls Putin a liberal.

I agree that Russia's government wants the Russian orthodox church to have a near monopoly in the Christian sphere but I wouldn't say monopoly in religion in general I remember Putin phrasing it like that the official religions are Judaism Islam Buddhism and Orthodox Christianity. As for them being "all medieval" historically with persecution they are not like the catholics they certainly are comfortable advocating banning denominations but are neutral when it comes to inquisition style horrors leaving governmental treatment of those outside the religious Overton window to the state's judgement.

The post soviet situation of JW's in Russia has more to do with perceived American affiliation than anything and it is not unique I remember in 2017 going over the data and every one of the five Christian denominations the Russians suppress are protestant denomination that started in America that evangelize.
Thats interesting :unsure: thank you
 

alan ford

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Haven't watched the talk but I have an opinion on Orthodox Christians'mentality. I was a kid during the Balkan war and have fisthand experience with their perseution. They introduced a religion study class (Orthodox of course) and in order to be able to pass we had to be baptized. A lot of us weren't so they organized a mass baptism, which I along with 2 more of us skippped. I was in grade 6 iirc. And then there were these stories circling around; people were saying how JW are gathering at homes and they stripping naked and covering themselves in flour and other crazy stuff. The priest would spit if we walked past each other. In general most of their clergy were cozying up to power and really enjoy their privileges and the infuence they wield. They took root in the academy of arts and sciences and used it to propagate all kinds of crazy ideas, glorifying nationalism and calling themselves heavenly nation. I wouldn't romanticize Russia and see them as if they are trying to save the world from the evil west. It's all a sham. The whole system is rotten and our only hope lies in the Kingdom of God.
 

MickHewitt

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Watchtowers affiliation of 10yrs with UN as an NGO gave Russia cause to label them as terrorists. NGO's are used as deep state fifth column operatives; ofcourse our brothers and sisters are not aware but how can the Russian security services differentiate between an honest Jehovah's witness or an enemy of the state? The damage that watchtower has done in Jehovah's Name!
There are more Irish republicans voted into Northern Irelands executive than Unionists (British followers of the Crown, believers in King Billy and the battle of the Boyne....'Remember 1690!') they have been voted out! Biden has Irish sympathies and that conflicts with British interest; but now top unionist representatives are being killed in the name of the new IRA. Ofcourse it's a deep state ploy to get the two factions killing each other again, they have no solution so back to old tacticts. It's also becoming increasingly known of the truth behind the British and the 'Potato Famine'. What Britain did with it's first colony Ireland was to starve it. These details are coming out along with the bodies. Now they are doing it on a global scale.
 
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MickHewitt

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There are more Irish republicans voted into Northern Irelands executive than Unionists (British followers of the Crown, believers in King Billy and the battle of the Boyne....'Remember 1690!') they have been voted out! Biden has Irish sympathies but now top unionist representatives are being killed in the name of the new IRA. Ofcourse it's a deep state ploy to get the two factions killing each other again, they have no solution so back to old tacticts. It's also becoming increasingly known of the truth behind the British and the 'Potato Famine'. What Britain did with it's first colony Ireland was to starve it. These details are coming out along with the bodies. Now they are doing it on a global scale.
America finds it's voice; 1:50sec in
 

kenmuldoon55

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I saw this earlier in the day. I see many christians saying how great Russia is for Christians. Saying insane things, like, Russia has christian values. Yet, they ban the preaching work in Russia and liquidate kingdom halls. Dungen, is a very smart man, it's why he has a lot of influence in Russia and why the deep state tried assassinating him but instead his daughter walked into that trap as the car blew up as she started the engine. But they all have deep ties to the Russian Orthodox church, the sanctioned religion of Russia. They are like medieval levels of so called Christians. You call yourself a Christian and don't believe in the Trinity doctrine? Heretic! You be burned alive in the public square like William Tyndale was but instead they put you in jail.

It's my belief that Jehovah set Russia as targets for persecuting real Christians. It explains why there is so much animosity towards Russia at the moment. I wish Glen Beck mentioned JW getting persecuted in Russia though.

Yet, they ban the preaching work in Russia and liquidate kingdom halls.
Kind of like WT leadership huh?
 

MickHewitt

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There are more Irish republicans voted into Northern Irelands executive than Unionists (British followers of the Crown, believers in King Billy and the battle of the Boyne....'Remember 1690!') they have been voted out! Biden has Irish sympathies and that conflicts with British interest; but now top unionist representatives are being killed in the name of the new IRA. Ofcourse it's a deep state ploy to get the two factions killing each other again, they have no solution so back to old tacticts. It's also becoming increasingly known of the truth behind the British and the 'Potato Famine'. What Britain did with it's first colony Ireland was to starve it. These details are coming out along with the bodies. Now they are doing it on a global scale.
I mean why would any faction of an Irish republican movement new or old be bothering to kill British Unionists who they have already beaten at the ballot box? No this is British deep state in creating a New IRA cell to distract from the 'Irish problem' while we get on with goading Putin into solving our debt problem!...'Here!...Here!
 

SingleCell

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I’ve always thought we were being played by both sides and yes, I absolutely know how ugly and evil and full of lies the British Empire is. They’ve always wanted their NWO and they will have it as we all know, but how can they have it if they don’t have their constant, never ending boogeyman in place regardless of who it is? The eyes of the world have to believe in this ever present boogeyman - in this instance Putin - so that they can be divided, as always, then have someone to blame when WWIII breaks out. Bad Putin.

The 8th king rises to “save” mankind.

Completely agree brother.

In fact, "they" are playing a similar script as 1917 - 1945

Pandemic -> mini-Golden Age -> crash -> war

2019 -> 2022 -> 2027 -> 2030 -> 2033 8th king is my loose guess

(time is sped up in the end game)

The 8th king is probably loosely Christian on some level, otherwise how would the elect be deceived, if that were possible? Maybe a new messiah in Israel to play the Jews and Muslims together.

During the 'mini-Golden age' they will build out the crypto - digital control system they'll need for the 8th king and normalize us to it before they weaponize it. This is the event right in front of us.
 

Jennifer

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Completely agree brother.

In fact, "they" are playing a similar script as 1917 - 1945

Pandemic -> mini-Golden Age -> crash -> war

2019 -> 2022 -> 2027 -> 2030 -> 2033 8th king is my loose guess

(time is sped up in the end game)

The 8th king is probably loosely Christian on some level, otherwise how would the elect be deceived, if that were possible? Maybe a new messiah in Israel to play the Jews and Muslims together.

During the 'mini-Golden age' they will build out the crypto - digital control system they'll need for the 8th king and normalize us to it before they weaponize it. This is the event right in front of us.

That’s what I was thinking a while back and the reason why I will not comply
They can have their digital control system and leave me out of it! I’ll go live in a tent in the outback if I have to lol. Frightening though
 

Cristo

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The 8th king is probably loosely Christian on some level, otherwise how would the elect be deceived, if that were possible? Maybe a new messiah in Israel to play the Jews and Muslims together.
I'm not certain that it requires the 8th king to be Christian in any form in order to deceive the elect. If we look at the current situation of those who have taken the lead, the GB have most certainly been deceived and lead astray from truth. That had nothing to do whether the WHO had some Christian values or not, it was a fear based decision by the GB. Through their acceptance and subsequent impetus to push an unproven pharmacological concoction upon the rank and file, it would seem they have already been bamboozled.

The following scripture shows that the returning King of the North, upon his defeat, will give consideration to those leaving the holy covenant. It is my opinion that this is when the Watchtower will collapse due to the leadership crumbling under the fear, and persecution, that will be brought against it. If they have already caved in to the mass psyop the world just went through regarding Covid, then truly what kind of faith do they have if they are willing to use Jehovahs name to push a poisonous serum into their own congregations?

(Da 11:29-31) “. . .“At the time appointed he will go back, and he will actually come against the south; but it will not prove to be at the last the same as at the first. 30 And there will certainly come against him the ships of Kit´tim, and he will have to become dejected. “And he will actually go back and hurl denunciations against the holy covenant and act effectively; and he will have to go back and will give consideration to those leaving the holy covenant. 31 And there will be arms that will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will actually profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant [feature].. . .”
So as to not turn this post into a rant against the society, the 'if possible' portion of your comment regarding the elect being deceived is what caught my attention. Satan certainly tried to tempt Jesus because he no doubt thought to himself "if possible, perhaps I can get him to do an act of worship to me". Obviously if he didn't think it was somehow possible, he wouldn't have tried. After all, he did convince legions of other angels to follow him, why not the archangel himself.

I feel that the warning from Jesus that Satan will use false Christs and false prophets, to give signs and wonders, would be analogous to showing Jesus ALL the kingdoms of the world from an unusually hight mountain, or turning rocks into bread, or stationing Jesus upon the battlement of the temple. No doubt, the chosen ones will fare just as Jesus did, for they have been prepared just for that moment. So no matter how much, or how little the 8th king is Christian, I am certain that it would not matter.

(Mt 24:24-25) “. . .For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will give great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones. 25 Look! I have forewarned YOU.”

Regarding your timeframe, I certainly hope it is not that long(2033), let’s get this over with already, but obviously in Gods own time will all things occur. Depending on the timeframe of the war between US and Russia(china?, Iran?), and the prophecied dejection of the king of north to occur, will tell us much in regards to a more easily foreseeable future. For then the constant feature will be removed and the disgusting thing placed. And from that point we have our map.
 
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BillyRay

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First off…. I’ve always enjoyed Glenn Beck. I don’t watch him often, but thought he was great when he was on Fox with the chalkboards.

Just because Putin points out the debauchery of the political left in the west, doesn’t mean he is a champion against those evils at all. He’s not wrong in some of his observations. But under his rule, he simply imprisons or kills those who espouse the things he points out about the west. Hardly a bastion of family values, morality, and goodness.
 
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