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Sunshower

Sunshower

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Nomex said:
First of all, it was not a joke. The finish on your vehicle, wait for it, is not nail polish. Nail polish is an enamel and has not been used to paint any vehicle in at least 35-40 years, at least since the 80's. "Nail polish" remover is acetone. I use acetone nearly every day, and I used it this past week to remove several spots of sap, on a hood. The finish on modern vehicles is a Base Coat Clear Coat system, and it is vastly superior to lacquers and enamels which are single stage finishes. Those finishes can and will be removed by a number of solvents, including acetone, paint thinner, lacquer thinning and most solvent based reducers.

But the finishes used today are all 2K, 2 part catalyzed finishes. They do not "dry" they "cure. Unless your driving a 1970's Camaro, you can use acetone. Acetone also will not leave residue behind as long as the surface your wiping clean, and don't use too much downward pressure either, because that can scratch the finish. Do not use any solvent including acetone on any plastic, like taillights, and head lights or black unpainted trim parts.


If you are still worried, take a little acetone with a white paper towel, soak a cap sized spot on the towel, wipe in an inconspicuous spot, like the inside bottom of the door, around the pinch weld area, which is clear coated, wipe it once, and check the towel. If no paint comes off you know it's not a single stage. You can even do that several times, if you really want to be sure. Wipe with the towel once, check it, then repeat again once and check the towel, and you can do that over and over again.

I can fill a mixing cup with activated clear coat, and the next day it's literally a block of clear, just like if you've ever mixed resin. Same chemical process.


The reason they didn't know, and I'm not saying this to be a jerk, but the truth is many of these guys just do not know what they are doing and have no business even charging for what they do. I asked a "competitor" once, what kind of 2K primer he was using and he said "What's that?" Well it's what he was supposed to use to "repair" paint. Clear is a 2K clear. And you use 2K primer with 2K clear. They use single stage lacquer primer, which is cheap, both in price and quality. But if you own a body shop your jobs cannot be warranted if you use laquer primer and almost all "onsite paint" guys do. And it's theft IMO!
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Thank you, dear brother 🤗 That is very clear and I trust you 100%
I still remember our mask talk in my first post here and I know you know what you’re talking about. But I also know you have a great sense of humor so I thought you were teasing me. My apologies ☺️

And you are right, they clearly don’t know what they’re doing. One of them taught the other one so if nr 1 doesn’t know, nr 2 doesn’t know either.
 
PJ54

PJ54

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Nomex said:
First of all, it was not a joke. The finish on your vehicle, wait for it, is not nail polish. Nail polish is an enamel and has not been used to paint any vehicle in at least 35-40 years, at least since the 80's. "Nail polish" remover is acetone. I use acetone nearly every day, and I used it this past week to remove several spots of sap, on a hood. The finish on modern vehicles is a Base Coat Clear Coat system, and it is vastly superior to lacquers and enamels which are single stage finishes. Those finishes can and will be removed by a number of solvents, including acetone, paint thinner, lacquer thinning and most solvent based reducers.

But the finishes used today are all 2K, 2 part catalyzed finishes. They do not "dry" they "cure. Unless your driving a 1970's Camaro, you can use acetone. Acetone also will not leave residue behind as long as the surface your wiping clean, and don't use too much downward pressure either, because that can scratch the finish. Do not use any solvent including acetone on any plastic, like taillights, and head lights or black unpainted trim parts.


If you are still worried, take a little acetone with a white paper towel, soak a cap sized spot on the towel, wipe in an inconspicuous spot, like the inside bottom of the door, around the pinch weld area, which is clear coated, wipe it once, and check the towel. If no paint comes off you know it's not a single stage. You can even do that several times, if you really want to be sure. Wipe with the towel once, check it, then repeat again once and check the towel, and you can do that over and over again.

I can fill a mixing cup with activated clear coat, and the next day it's literally a block of clear, just like if you've ever mixed resin. Same chemical process.


The reason they didn't know, and I'm not saying this to be a jerk, but the truth is many of these guys just do not know what they are doing and have no business even charging for what they do. I asked a "competitor" once, what kind of 2K primer he was using and he said "What's that?" Well it's what he was supposed to use to "repair" paint. Clear is a 2K clear. And you use 2K primer with 2K clear. They use single stage lacquer primer, which is cheap, both in price and quality. But if you own a body shop your jobs cannot be warranted if you use laquer primer and almost all "onsite paint" guys do. And it's theft IMO!
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I have an old truck I use for work that has some paint chipping with rust. I'd like to patch it but I want to make sure it works. If you don't mind, any tips on what to do for patch work?
 
Nomex

Nomex

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PJ54 said:
I have an old truck I use for work that has some paint chipping with rust. I'd like to patch it but I want to make sure it works. If you don't mind, any tips on what to do for patch work?
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Not much you can do. There are some retail rust treatments that work OK, you can use something like this to sand the chips...https://www.amazon.com/K-Tool-International-KTI-KTI-70550-Sanding/dp/B000FN8H52/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=pen+sander&qid=1656994175&sr=8-7


And then purchase touch up paint. Paint will definitely help stop and or slow down the rust. The problem is once rust starts it's like cancer and has to be completely eliminated, of it comes back. Tell me the make and model and I can tell you where to find the paint code. You can also call the dealer, parts department, and give them , usually the last 8 of the VIN for the paint code for all most all domestics. Walmart used to sell touch up paint by in 2 oz. bottles all you needed was the paint code. I think you can still get them online. I mix my touch up with clear, so it's only good for a few hours, so I can't help you there.
 
Nomex

Nomex

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Medi-tator said:
maybe it will dull the shiny finish a tad
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Also, it will not affect the finish adversely in any way. It will not dull it, or leave any residue. I use it on probably well over 50% maybe as much as 80% of vehicles I work on. I use it to clean and sterilize for numerous applications. I also use other solvents for other applications.

BTW, acetone is the only solvent that will remove super glue without damaging your paint, if you happen to have super glue on your paint. Again, on plastics parts use caution, even on plastic painted parts with something as aggressive as super glue removal.
 
PJ54

PJ54

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Nomex said:
Not much you can do. There are some retail rust treatments that work OK, you can use something like this to sand the chips...https://www.amazon.com/K-Tool-International-KTI-KTI-70550-Sanding/dp/B000FN8H52/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=pen+sander&qid=1656994175&sr=8-7


And then purchase touch up paint. Paint will definitely help stop and or slow down the rust. The problem is once rust starts it's like cancer and has to be completely eliminated, of it comes back. Tell me the make and model and I can tell you where to find the paint code. You can also call the dealer, parts department, and give them , usually the last 8 of the VIN for the paint code for all most all domestics. Walmart used to sell touch up paint by in 2 oz. bottles all you needed was the paint code. I think you can still get them online. I mix my touch up with clear, so it's only good for a few hours, so I can't help you there.
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Thanks for the info!
 
Sunshower

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@Nomex you know you’re now the forum’s go to guy for questions about masks and car paint, don’t you? 😉

You’re also still funny 😄
 
kirmmy

kirmmy

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Sunshower said:
Nice. We had (cause we left the org 😉) two brothers in our congregation who do the same.

Do you have any tips to get resin from a tree from a car? I asked them several times but they didn’t know. Now you I hold in high regards, so you surely must have a good tip 😁
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I hear brake fluid works great.

No don't, it's only a joke. Some will get it, some won't.
 
יהוה_saves

יהוה_saves

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Sunshower said:
Okay, I need the full story 😂
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well, i spilled raw egg and my kitty was the closest thing i had to a towel at the moment.

He loved baths, and i bathed him ever so often cause he was an all white cat, with longish hair, and we lived out in the rurals and he’d get real dirty sometimes- and i bathed him since he was a kitten. i was gonna bathe him anyway so. . .

So i began to bathe him in the sink and just then i got the idea to put some of that Mrs. Stewart’s laundry “bluing” in his rinse water- it’s for whitening whites that have gotten a bit dull.

Well, the cat was most definitely a white cat, but underneath he must have had some orange in him, and i must have used a tad too much Mrs Stewart’s bluing, so that + the orange turned him quite green.

He turned back to white after a few more baths and some shedding + regrowth. It’s not like a super strong dye or anything.

i called Washington state animal poison control. They said there was nothing to worry about. Mrs Stewart’s bluing wasn’t toxic to animals as long as i rinsed him real good. which i did.

i used to have a picture. this was the days before any cellphones. i’ll look for it.
 
יהוה_saves

יהוה_saves

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. . . oh and i did successfully raise three kids. I didn’t turn any of them green.

i have to tell you about my daughter’s third grade halloween pumpkin carving day in her class and how i dealt with that being a JW mother, aux pioneer in exemplary standing in my congregation.

omg hahaha. my daughter never lets me forget it. ever.

ill start another thread.
 
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