Jesus said: as often as you do it in remember...

[mia]

This what I am to ask might allready been answered though i believe not. Shortly: I have known JW for more than 50 years on and off listened to them. Joined their meetings in KingdomHall in Norway. Often I have met them on the streets sharing my concern of the fact that JW does not do what Jesus said on the evening to his apostles: 1 corintians



23For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread, 24and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, “This is my body, which is forf you. Do this in remembrance of me.”g 25In the same way also he took the cup, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.” 26For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.



I did once early on during these 50 years experience that JW does not believe in this and was very much surprised. Can anyone here give me a comment on this fact. Please!

 

[TruthLover]

This what I am to ask might allready been answered though i believe not. Shortly: I have known JW for more than 50 years on and off listened to them. Joined their meetings in KingdomHall in Norway. Often I have met them on the streets sharing my concern of the fact that JW does not do what Jesus said on the evening to his apostles: 1 corintians



23For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread, 24and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, “This is my body, which is forf you. Do this in remembrance of me.”g 25In the same way also he took the cup, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.” 26For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.



I did once early on during these 50 years experience that JW does not believe in this and was very much surprised. Can anyone here give me a comment on this fact. Please!

Hi Mia, every year on Nisan 14 Jehovah's witnesses hold the memorial of Jesus' death / the Lord's evening meal where the bread and the wine is passed.
The annointed, those of the 144,000, partake of the emblems. Those in the new covenant who will rule in heaven with Jesus.

 

[mama]

Hi Mia, every year on Nisan 14 Jehovah's witnesses hold the memorial of Jesus' death / the Lord's evening meal where the bread and the wine is passed.
The annointed, those of the 144,000, partake of the emblems. Those in the new covenant who will rule in heaven with Jesus.

John 6:53-58

New International Version

53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.



54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. 57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.”

 

[TruthLover]

John 6:53-58

New International Version

53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.



54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. 57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.”

John 6:63
New American Standard Bible
"It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh provides no benefit; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit, and are life."

"35 Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall not hunger, and he that believeth on me shall never thirst."

John 7:37,38
"Now on the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, from within him shall flow rivers of living water."

 

[mama]

John 6:63
New American Standard Bible
"It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh provides no benefit; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit, and are life."

"35 Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall not hunger, and he that believeth on me shall never thirst."

John 7:37,38
"Now on the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, from within him shall flow rivers of living water."

First of all, I do sincerely feel sorry for all the 8 mill JW in the world. Nowadays your JW org is revealed as a hoax. As a cult. The Truth is being revealed. One elder in a congregation in Norway, Rolf Furuli is lately expelled from the org. He has revealed that the Governing Body is a hoax. He has been a professor in semantic languages and become high on himself, but nevertheless it was time to reveal what has become over the past hundred years, become destinies for hundreds of JW around the world. Breaking up families. When he himself also has been responsible for this. The GB is not according to the Bible. I did know him through his wife at some time after studying the book. Now he has become a paria to the org. His latest book «My beloved religion» has been noticed by quite a few JW. His book which is a pdf is not very interesting to me because I know his arguments. The org in Brooklyn is treating him bad. He is a well known schollar. Not only in Norway. But, to my sadness he does not recognise the fact that none of you will be saved. Paul wrote to several congregations to its members, whom would never have been one of the so called 144.000. Never! He warned them about eating and drinking the Lord's meal. So yes my point is, that when Jesus, who is the Son of the Father; told them to do the above, it was for all mankind. All mankind.

 

[TruthLover]

First of all, I do sincerely feel sorry for all the 8 mill JW in the world. Nowadays your JW org is revealed as a hoax. As a cult. The Truth is being revealed. One elder in a congregation in Norway, Rolf Furuli is lately expelled from the org. He has revealed that the Governing Body is a hoax. He has been a professor in semantic languages and become high on himself, but nevertheless it was time to reveal what has become over the past hundred years, become destinies for hundreds of JW around the world. Breaking up families. When he himself also has been responsible for this. The GB is not according to the Bible. I did know him through his wife at some time after studying the book. Now he has become a paria to the org. His latest book «My beloved religion» has been noticed by quite a few JW. His book which is a pdf is not very interesting to me because I know his arguments. The org in Brooklyn is treating him bad. He is a well known schollar. Not only in Norway. But, to my sadness he does not recognise the fact that none of you will be saved. Paul wrote to several congregations to its members, whom would never have been one of the so called 144.000. Never! He warned them about eating and drinking the Lord's meal. So yes my point is, that when Jesus, who is the Son of the Father; told them to do the above, it was for all mankind. All mankind.

Have a read of this thread: https://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/index.php?threads/may-31-2022-trust-in-god-indeed.1122/

 

[kenmuldoon55]

First of all, I do sincerely feel sorry for all the 8 mill JW in the world. Nowadays your JW org is revealed as a hoax. As a cult. The Truth is being revealed. One elder in a congregation in Norway, Rolf Furuli is lately expelled from the org. He has revealed that the Governing Body is a hoax. He has been a professor in semantic languages and become high on himself, but nevertheless it was time to reveal what has become over the past hundred years, become destinies for hundreds of JW around the world. Breaking up families. When he himself also has been responsible for this. The GB is not according to the Bible. I did know him through his wife at some time after studying the book. Now he has become a paria to the org. His latest book «My beloved religion» has been noticed by quite a few JW. His book which is a pdf is not very interesting to me because I know his arguments. The org in Brooklyn is treating him bad. He is a well known schollar. Not only in Norway. But, to my sadness he does not recognise the fact that none of you will be saved. Paul wrote to several congregations to its members, whom would never have been one of the so called 144.000. Never! He warned them about eating and drinking the Lord's meal. So yes my point is, that when Jesus, who is the Son of the Father; told them to do the above, it was for all mankind. All mankind.

Not everyone can be an associate king in Gods heavenly kingdom.
When Jesus instituted the memorial, he was speaking to an exclusive group of people ie those who would sit on thrones in heaven to judge the (earthly) twelve tribes of Israel.

 

[Watchman]

First of all, I do sincerely feel sorry for all the 8 mill JW in the world. Nowadays your JW org is revealed as a hoax. As a cult. The Truth is being revealed. One elder in a congregation in Norway, Rolf Furuli is lately expelled from the org. He has revealed that the Governing Body is a hoax. He has been a professor in semantic languages and become high on himself, but nevertheless it was time to reveal what has become over the past hundred years, become destinies for hundreds of JW around the world. Breaking up families. When he himself also has been responsible for this. The GB is not according to the Bible. I did know him through his wife at some time after studying the book. Now he has become a paria to the org. His latest book «My beloved religion» has been noticed by quite a few JW. His book which is a pdf is not very interesting to me because I know his arguments. The org in Brooklyn is treating him bad. He is a well known schollar. Not only in Norway. But, to my sadness he does not recognise the fact that none of you will be saved. Paul wrote to several congregations to its members, whom would never have been one of the so called 144.000. Never! He warned them about eating and drinking the Lord's meal. So yes my point is, that when Jesus, who is the Son of the Father; told them to do the above, it was for all mankind. All mankind.

Rolf Furuli is a bit of a blowhard hoaxer himself. He tried to do a hit and hide piece on me as far as the meaning of the Gentile Times is concerned. I called him on it. He didn't even bother to respond to my email. In Response to Rolf Furuli PH.D

 

[mama]

Rolf Furuli is a bit of a blowhard hoaxer himself. He tried to do a hit and hide piece on me as far as the meaning of the Gentile Times is concerned. I called him on it. He didn't even bother to respond to my email. In Response to Rolf Furuli PH.D

There are several passages in New Testament on how important Jesus is and should be in our lives. In lives of all mankind. It must be obvious unless you like to be fooled and stay in a psykoses all your life ...that Jesus did not only give promises to his friends during the last meal with his disiples who became apostles to become teacher to the whole world. He ordered them to go out and preach. To the whole world. To all mankind. Until the end. Which means we should listen to what he said that special evening. And do it!

John 3:35 35 The Father loves the Son and has placed everything in his hands. 36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.

“I ama the wayb and the truthc and the life.d No one comes to the Father except through me.e 7 If you really know me, you will knowb my Father as well.f From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”

Jesus Prays for All Believers
20 “My prayer is not for them (the disiples) alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

The Fellowship of the Believers
42 They devoted themselves to the apostles’ teachingx and to fellowship, to the breaking of bready and to prayer

Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts.d They broke breade in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts ...And the Lord added to their numberg daily those who were being saved.

These people who were being saved were not any of the 144.000. These were people who came to believe in Jesus and his promises. Believe in me and you will be saved.

26 While they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is my body.” 27 Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28 This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

Righteousness Through Faith
21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in[h] Jesus Christ to all who believe.

..25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith
27 Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. Because of what law? The law that requires works? No, because of the law that requires faith. 28 For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.

Nowhere in the Bible is Jesus referring to 144.000. Nowhere!

 

[Jess]

Are Mama and Mia both from Scandinavia?

 

[PJ54]

There are several passages in New Testament on how important Jesus is and should be in our lives. In lives of all mankind. It must be obvious unless you like to be fooled and stay in a psykoses all your life ...that Jesus did not only give promises to his friends during the last meal with his disiples who became apostles to become teacher to the whole world. He ordered them to go out and preach. To the whole world. To all mankind. Until the end. Which means we should listen to what he said that special evening. And do it!

John 3:35 35 The Father loves the Son and has placed everything in his hands. 36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.

“I ama the wayb and the truthc and the life.d No one comes to the Father except through me.e 7 If you really know me, you will knowb my Father as well.f From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”

Jesus Prays for All Believers
20 “My prayer is not for them (the disiples) alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

The Fellowship of the Believers
42 They devoted themselves to the apostles’ teachingx and to fellowship, to the breaking of bready and to prayer

Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts.d They broke breade in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts ...And the Lord added to their numberg daily those who were being saved.

These people who were being saved were not any of the 144.000. These were people who came to believe in Jesus and his promises. Believe in me and you will be saved.

26 While they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is my body.” 27 Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28 This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

Righteousness Through Faith
21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in[h] Jesus Christ to all who believe.

..25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith
27 Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. Because of what law? The law that requires works? No, because of the law that requires faith. 28 For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.

Nowhere in the Bible is Jesus referring to 144.000. Nowhere!

If all good people who believe in Jesus go to heaven, why did Jesus die less than 2000 years ago by todays date? Why couldn't he appear around the time of Cain, Able, Seth, etc. so all could stand a chance? Is God unjust to those who were before the time of Christ? If so then most people never stood a chance to begin with.

 

[Watchman]

Nowhere in the Bible is Jesus referring to 144.000. Nowhere!

Actually, in the last book of the Bible Jesus referred to 144,000 being the only ones able to master the new song. The new song has to do with the new covenant and the new creation. I advise you to take the time to learn what the Bible actually teaches. But if you are going to peddle that ole church creed here it ain't gonna fly. We know better.

 

[mama]

Actually, in the last book of the Bible Jesus referred to 144,000 being the only ones able to master the new song. The new song has to do with the new covenant and the new creation. I advise you to take the time to learn what the Bible actually teaches. But if you are going to peddle that ole church creed here it ain't gonna fly. We know better.

With reference to my essays I am stunned to read what you present to the readers here. When I read about Rolf Furuli I did not hesitate to get in touch with neiher Furuli or two elderly women whome are typical JW. Once my good friends. Neither want to reflect on my letters. Well, to be honest I get that they feel put down by my presentation on the fact that I have proclaimed that because of not celebrating Jesus, doing what he said about drinking and eating, they too became stunned...but nevertheless.

I have spent som time digging into several articles here by you and are stunned. Really stunned. What you say and present to people here, who are obviously JW many of them. The truth about GB, was new to me reading RF book, the same tine when I read about RF being excluded. But reading your articles has stunned me. You seem to be in tune with RF on that subject.

It now seems to me you being so blunt that JW org these days is about to crumble into dust. Anyway, Writing this I switch back to your blog and read: But if you are going to peddle that ole church creed here it ain't gonna fly. We know better.

So you know better Ok I realize that my words to you does not enter your arrogant mind the way I was hoping for. Because: We know better. Aha... so you know better? You also tell me to read the Bible. Well please forgive me but that I find hillarious. Let me just end this with this quote hoping God Jahve will forgive you on the day.

John 3:35 35 The Father loves the Son and has placed everything in his hands. 36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.

 

[Watchman]

"Be stunned and amazed," as it says in Isaiah. You are yet to be stunned even more.

As Jesus said: "If the light that is in you is really darkness, how great that darkness is!"

 

[Jess]

With reference to my essays I am stunned to read what you present to the readers here. When I read about Rolf Furuli I did not hesitate to get in touch with neiher Furuli or two elderly women whome are typical JW. Once my good friends. Neither want to reflect on my letters. Well, to be honest I get that they feel put down by my presentation on the fact that I have proclaimed that because of not celebrating Jesus, doing what he said about drinking and eating, they too became stunned...but nevertheless.

I have spent som time digging into several articles here by you and are stunned. Really stunned. What you say and present to people here, who are obviously JW many of them. The truth about GB, was new to me reading RF book, the same tine when I read about RF being excluded. But reading your articles has stunned me. You seem to be in tune with RF on that subject.

It now seems to me you being so blunt that JW org these days is about to crumble into dust. Anyway, Writing this I switch back to your blog and read: But if you are going to peddle that ole church creed here it ain't gonna fly. We know better.

So you know better Ok I realize that my words to you does not enter your arrogant mind the way I was hoping for. Because: We know better. Aha... so you know better? You also tell me to read the Bible. Well please forgive me but that I find hillarious. Let me just end this with this quote hoping God Jahve will forgive you on the day.

John 3:35 35 The Father loves the Son and has placed everything in his hands. 36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.

I think maybe its not your asking of questions on the subject. But rather the tone in which you ask them. Just my two cents though.

 

[LifeLearning]

I did once early on during these 50 years experience that JW does not believe in this and was very much surprised. Can anyone here give me a comment on this fact. Please!

...the Kingdom of God does not mean eating and drinking, but means righteousness and peace and joy with holy spirit. Romans14:17

Be careful not to take a verse or two and expect that it means everything.

Satan is misleading the entire world (Rev 12:9). Do not put your faith in men, but seek your own understanding. 1Cor2:1-5

Seek the kingdom with your whole heart, and your whole soul and your whole mind Matt 22:37, Matt7:7, Matt6:33

 

[Truth_Seeker]

They said to Him, “Grant that we may sit, one on Your right and one on Your left, in Your glory.” But Jesus said to them, “You do not know what you are asking. Are you able to drink the cup that I drink, or to be baptized with the baptism with which I am baptized?” They said to Him, “We are able.” And Jesus said to them, “The cup that I drink you shall drink; and you shall be baptized with the baptism with which I am baptized. But to sit on My right or on My left is not Mine to give; but it is for those for whom it has been prepared.”

 

[Truth_Seeker]

But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; for you once were not a people, but now you are the people of God; you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.
1 Peter 2:9‭-‬10

 

[Truth_Seeker]

Do not be afraid, little flock, because your Father has chosen to give you the kingdom.
Luke 12:32

 

[Truth_Seeker]

And I have other sheep that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice; and they will become one flock, with one shepherd.
John 10:16