Narcissism.....on the increase in the World AND amongst JW's?

I would love to read Ana's comments....but I do not know how to translate from this site. I think some of you speak Spanish and you translate it for the rest of us....but is there a way I can do it using my computer? I highlighted her text from above and “right-clicked” but I do not see the option to translate! Please Help! Ayuda Me Por Favor! ( I do know poquito Espanol!) 🙃
I use the Google Chrome browser. I use my mouse to select a paragraph, sometimes smaller chunks work better and I right-click on the selected area and a menu pops up and one of the options is to translate it to English. Built right into the browser. I don't think it works everywhere but it works here on this site.
 
Avoid Them: 2 Timothy 3: 1-5

Expose Them: Ephesians 5:6-14

Watch Out for Them: Romans 16: 17,18

Have Nothing to Do with Them: Matthew 15:14

Beware: 2 Tim 3:6

Remove Them: 1 Cor. 5:11,13

Don’t Give in: Proverbs 25:26

Be Silent if Needed: Matthew 27:12

Don’t Harm Yourself: Proverbs 6:27,28

Hate what Jehovah Hates: Proverbs 6:12-28

Don’t have Companionship: Prov 22:24,25

Avoid it, Shun It, Turn away , pass it by: Prob 4:15,16

And you may need to do these things because, If you don’t protect yourself you may subject yourself to further danger…
Thank you for these! I sometimes feel judged because I have decided to go 'No Contact' with my elderly mother. But as a Christian, I am not obliged to be her friend. She has a place to live, food, clothing, medication, association.....everything she NEEDS. Actually, SHE'S the one who moved AWAY from me. Just one of the many passive/aggressive moves she would make. She has never tried to call me in 9 years. Actually, when she moved, I believe I had been "called to peace" 1 Cor 7:15

Here is one of my favorite "therapists"

 
Thank you for these! I sometimes feel judged because I have decided to go 'No Contact' with my elderly mother. But as a Christian, I am not obliged to be her friend. She has a place to live, food, clothing, medication, association.....everything she NEEDS. Actually, SHE'S the one who moved AWAY from me. Just one of the many passive/aggressive moves she would make. She has never tried to call me in 9 years. Actually, when she moved, I believe I had been "called to peace" 1 Cor 7:15

Here is one of my favorite "therapists"

I've seen her videos... I have learned much about this trait as my wife also has a Narcissistic mother. As Christians we always feel obliged to "be peaceable" at all costs. And of course we try, but a true Narcissist will most likely never change. So, at some point we have to watch our own mental health because this toxic trait can be devasting to the victim of this abuse. I told my wife the other day..."If our daughter was going to school and she was constantly being abused and bullied... we would have no hesitancy pulling her out of that situation...especially if she was physically abused. But our mental health can be just as damaging to our body and soul if we experience that for too long.
Hence the scriptures that clearly show Jesus had a Huge Problem with these ones. He went off on them in Matthew 23... We don't have to subject ourselves to that and we should set clear boundaries that we or the abused are comfortable... sometimes that's reduced or limited contact, or making sure our spouses are around to keep them in check and it may even be No Contact. But we still do it in a loving way and with an open door if they can change their ways. But these scriptures give us the reassurance to take those steps as needed.
 
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It seems that once the world enters into the phase of the reign of the eighth king it will not be possible to show repentance. I wish, but it seems that will not possible because the great crowd will have already been selected and the same will happen wi

Well, the Bible says that everyone on earth will worship the beast and Satan, everyone except the great crowd and the 144.000, and by that time they will have been already selected. It seems that during the hour of test people will simply show what's in their hearts, and in that way, their destiny will be sealed. They will simply show their hate against Jehovah and Jesus. They will have the two choices, but most of them (if not all) will choose Satan. We will have to wait and see anyway to see what happens. But I base what I say in what Robert says in the video, and taking into account what the Bible shows in patterns like the Deluge and other passages.
Revelation 16 and 9 indicates that indeed people will not show repentance at some point. At what point will people stop showing repentance? Well, what Robert says makes sense, but let's wait to see what happens. We cannot be dogmatic anyway.

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It seems that once the world enters into the phase of the reign of the eighth king it will not be possible to show repentance. I wish, but it seems that will not possible because the great crowd will have already been selected and the same will happen wi

Well, the Bible says that everyone on earth will worship the beast and Satan, everyone except the great crowd and the 144.000, and by that time they will have been already selected. It seems that during the hour of test people will simply show what's in their hearts, and in that way, their destiny will be sealed. They will simply show their hate against Jehovah and Jesus. They will have the two choices, but most of them (if not all) will choose Satan. We will have to wait and see anyway to see what happens. But I base what I say in what Robert says in the video, and taking into account what the Bible shows in patterns like the Deluge and other passages.
Revelation 16 and 9 indicates that indeed people will not show repentance at some point. At what point will people stop showing repentance? Well, what Robert says makes sense, but let's wait to see what happens. We cannot be dogmatic anyway.
I’m with Melinda on this point.
I personally don’t think the opportunity to become one of the great crowd is over at the time the eighth king ascends and during his 42 month long reign.
What’s the point of his even coming into power? Isn’t his rule the hour of test upon the world? Is he not Jehovahs instrument to judge the remaining ones on earth by forcing his mark on them?
Christs brothers aren’t even revealed and subsequently sealed until the tribulation gets cut short. How does anyone get to “go visit them in prison or feed and cloth them” before that time as Jesus prophesied the sheeplike ones would be doing in Matthew 25?
While the Bible says the whole world will be worshipping the beast and proclaiming “who is like it and who can do battle with it”
seems to indicate how this beast government will be viewed as the savior of the world because in some miraculous way the cessation of the horrors of the great tribulation will be attributed to its coming into existence. From a worldly point of view, who wouldn’t be elated.
Probably not best time to find out what’s really in peoples hearts and base a persons eternal fate on.
My opinion is that seeing how this beast government begins ruling like a lamb and gradually transforms into speaking like a dragon, Jehovah will give people the full opportunity to see its despotical, tyrannical even genocidal transformation. Doesn’t Robert touch on this and refer to this eighth king being guilty of mass Democide”?
Such a scenario seems consistent with Jehovahs mercy.
As long as the opportunity to refuse the mark of the beast exists, no doubt deep into this despots 42 month long rule, wouldn’t a person still have the chance to have his or her name remain in the Lambs book of life?
 
Thank you for these! I sometimes feel judged because I have decided to go 'No Contact' with my elderly mother. But as a Christian, I am not obliged to be her friend. She has a place to live, food, clothing, medication, association.....everything she NEEDS. Actually, SHE'S the one who moved AWAY from me. Just one of the many passive/aggressive moves she would make. She has never tried to call me in 9 years. Actually, when she moved, I believe I had been "called to peace" 1 Cor 7:15

Here is one of my favorite "therapists"

This so called 'therapist' is a joke. She believes that refusing to wear a medical mask, for a purpose that for which it was never intended, is a narcissistic trait. 🤣
 
OK, so here's what I think is the whole point. The reason Jehovah has allowed this for so long, is because mankind has not ultimately failed in their ruler-ship until it climaxes with the GT. The GT will usher in this sifting period. Christ brothers will give the credit to Jehovah for putting a stop to the GT, but the 8th King will take credit for it. During the 3 1/2 years man will be compelled to "take the mark", and the only thing preventing it, "even the chosen will be deceived if possible", will be your understanding and faith it what has just happened. It will be the last thing that reveals your true heart condition, before Jehovah destroys mankind's wicked governments, and those who have sided with them, like all the purple hair LGBTQ freaks, and their supporters, etc.

With this complete failure, also comes WTs org complete failure, ("it does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step" includes the debacle that WT has become), since they, like the nation of Israel, wanted a King, and rejected Jehovah as their King, likewise WT has done the same thing, by doing what Paul was describing in 2 Thess chapter 2...they have installed themselves as "Kings" and Paul described that as well, "have you begun reigning without us?" Even if they are actually anointed ones, they are not sealed and like Judas they have betrayed Jesus and Jehovah in various ways...and we all know what those ways entail.

The 8th King's rule will be worse, by far for those resisting the 8th King than the wholesale in-discriminant slaughter that the GT will unleash. The GT will be a flash point and those killed by it, it seems to me, will be getting off easy. It's my belief that the GT just set's the stage for the final show down, but the GT will be "check" and Armageddon is "check mate" but still the 8th King's rule will expose what is in a person's heart, and it will be undeniable. In fact it will be then that the fulfillment of scripture that states, Jehovah will "not allow us to be tested beyond what we can endure."

Everything that we have been taught makes sense now, when we look at it from this perspective.

The point of the "short period of time" when Satan is hurled down, is to force people to take a side. They will only be deceived by their own hearts. Just like Eve, her desire to be like God is what drew out her sin. She was willingly deceived, because what Satan said appealed to her. Her sin was not that she ate of the fruit, it was what motivated her to eat, and it's very clear when you analyze the way Satan was able to manipulate her to sin. Eating the fruit of the tree was symbolic of the actual sin. It was the manifestation of her sin which was her desire to be like God. In fact Eve was the first "Satanist." And all those who perish at Armageddon will like wise be "Satanists."

Contrast that with people who believe in the Trinity and similar lies. Their belief in that deception in and of itself is not at all the same kind of thing. That is to say, their reasons for believing that lie, are not even in the same ball park as to why Eve was deceived. I think you can likewise make the very same argument for JW's who are similarly deceived by the GB and WT. What rises to a level of sin, would be based on the reason why a person is deceived, and whether when given proof that they have been deceived if they accept such correction. Some even now in the world today, wouldn't want to live under God's rulership, and they will be given a chance to show their unwavering support for Satan during the 8th Kings rule!
Nomex I’ve been thinking a lot about this discussion about how it is impossible to repent after the GT. . Basically the door to salvation is closed before the 8th King starts to rule. Which Revelation 7:14-17 indicates that the tent of God is with the ones that come out of the tribulation - the Great Crowd.
But, if that's the case, why is parable of separating the sheep & goats connected to the HOT??? I’m having difficulty fitting all the pieces.
 
Nomex I’ve been thinking a lot about this discussion about how it is impossible to repent after the GT. . Basically the door to salvation is closed before the 8th King starts to rule. Which Revelation 7:14-17 indicates that the tent of God is with the ones that come out of the tribulation - the Great Crowd.
But, if that's the case, why is parable of separating the sheep & goats connected to the HOT??? I’m having difficulty fitting all the pieces.
Either you are not understanding what I am saying, or vice versa. I am saying I believe 100% that after the GT but before Armageddon, a person can repent and follow Christ. There are so many things that indicate this. Too many without going into a preliminary explanation to set up why I believe that...(a subject for another thread?), what I believe is going to happen will be in fulfillment of Bible prophecy, the GT takes place but it will be brought on like it was when Rome destroyed Jerusalem, brought about by Satan's governments, but this time, on a world wide scale, and in his blood lust it would have wiped out all of mankind, had Jehovah not stepped in, and stopped it, and during the following 31/2 years, (wow history is repeating itself, how long was Jesus original ministry), during that time, those who survived the GT, some will chose Christ, others will take the mark.

So re-read everything I just wrote, understanding I am saying, many if not most, (in our time) will repent after the GT!!!!! But...I could be wrong, but it's what seems to be true, in light of everything I have been taught and now have learned from Robert and everyone else here, that's how I see it all playing out!!!
 
I think the "Seal of God", would be those who refuse the MOTB. Since that is put on their "foreheads and their hands." It would seem reasonable to assume, that means their "mark" on their foreheads would be similar to that of the anointed. This scripture conveys to me, in my mind, these people will wish they were dead, while living under the tyrannical 8th King, because death will be preferable to Satan's 8th Kingdom, where his rule will be uninhibited. No more Romans 13....and it seems this scripture indicates how they will lament their choice, but they had a chance to choose Christ and they chose Satan.

The reality of what they choose will not be at all like the reality they envisioned, kind of like a man who thinks he can "transition" into being a woman and vice versa. They end up being neither man nor woman, and when they wake up to what they have done to themselves, they often wish they were dead, and a very large number do kill themselves. But while they live, they have to "live" with the consequences of what they have done to themselves. For these mentally ill people, they probably will long to be put out of their misery.
@SusanB This is also what the Chapter 18 Joel says in Jehovah Is King book. This really makes a lot of sense.
 
I use the Google Chrome browser. I use my mouse to select a paragraph, sometimes smaller chunks work better and I right-click on the selected area and a menu pops up and one of the options is to translate it to English. Built right into the browser. I don't think it works everywhere but it works here on this site.
Well i must be as dumb as a rock, i had been copy and pasting the words into my bing browser for the translation.
Then i read your comment, checked it out and can see translate.....doh !
 
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