Okay, just like I'd figured, churches were paid to push the jab!

Eventhorizon

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So lie?! Idk I can't see that
@goldie - I am still an elder; as verified v@x is a requirement for the elder schools, as well as pioneer school, LDC work, hospital liason committee and I think patient visitation groups. No one has told anybody to keep it on the down low. It is just that the collective in the borg are well conditioned to keep their mouths shut about things such as this (I feel there are quite a few who have no idea TM3 is not on the GB anymore).

Since he was on the GB and so prominent, I feel that the R&F should be told something (not a 3 day brief announcement buried in a news page). That tells me it is not for a good reason that it happened
 

goldie

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@goldie - I am still an elder; as verified v@x is a requirement for the elder schools, as well as pioneer school, LDC work, hospital liason committee and I think patient visitation groups. No one has told anybody to keep it on the down low. It is just that the collective in the borg are well conditioned to keep their mouths shut about things such as this (I feel there are quite a few who have no idea TM3 is not on the GB anymore).

Since he was on the GB and so prominent, I feel that the R&F should be told something (not a 3 day brief announcement buried in a news page). That tells me it is not for a good reason that it happened
Thank you! I do believe you brother. If it's required it's required. I just can't understand all this secrecy, and it's not just the vaccine.

I totally agree with you about br. Morris.. all very odd!
 
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BagdadBill

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Since he was on the GB and so prominent, I feel that the R&F should be told something (not a 3 day brief announcement buried in a news page). That tells me it is not for a good reason that it happened
It has been suggested already but, what if TM had a change of heart, say regarding the jab. Wouldn't the majority be under pressure to remove him? I'm not saying it's so but with things being what they are, it's just as good a theory as any. They are the GB. There is no way they don't know about the Great Reset or New World Order, whatever term we're using currently.
 

goldie

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It has been suggested already but, what if TM had a change of heart, say regarding the jab. Wouldn't the majority be under pressure to remove him? I'm not saying it's so but with things being what they are, it's just as good a theory as any. They are the GB. There is no way they don't know about the Great Reset or New World Order, whatever term we're using currently.
I remember one gb update that Tony Morris hosted and i distinctly remember him near choking on the words "get vaccinated" it was as if he was being forced to say it.
 

Bruce

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@goldie - I am still an elder; as verified v@x is a requirement for the elder schools, as well as pioneer school, LDC work, hospital liason committee and I think patient visitation groups. No one has told anybody to keep it on the down low. It is just that the collective in the borg are well conditioned to keep their mouths shut about things such as this (I feel there are quite a few who have no idea TM3 is not on the GB anymore).

Since he was on the GB and so prominent, I feel that the R&F should be told something (not a 3 day brief announcement buried in a news page). That tells me it is not for a good reason that it happened
I can second that, with one change.
The mandate for LDC work had been removed, in Aus anyway.
I am unable to attend the Kingdom Ministry School next month.
I think the only reason it seems secretive is because the vast majority of elders and pioneers have been vaxxed.
So it would appear so unbelievable that someone isn't vaxxed that they don't even think about it.
 

Nomex

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Does anyone have any specific information on why GB pushed the vax from mid 2021?

I really would like to know. That really shook me to the bottom and made me start question everything. But I need to know why they did it. So far all we have is speculations.
I think when you look at the one update where they are bragging about how there was no vaccine even available in one country but somehow WT got the vaccine for the brothers in that country. That to me speaks volumes. First of all, they would have ONLY been able to acquire the vaccine if they were in bed with the government, and I would say it would almost certainly be the U.S. government that supplied it to them. I think that is the most incriminating evidence against them. I'm not sure it matters if they got paid, but I would say this, I can't think of a single reason they would not have accepted payment if it was offered. Therefore, if other churches received payments, I think we have very strong circumstantial evidence , so did WT!
 

Highhopes

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This is weird news for me, as you know I am a guest on this site, but know the witnesses are the real deal with the bible interpretation, etc. I can`t think why the governing body would knowingly mislead the flock? perhaps I am naive but would it not just be conformity to the higher authority? Maybe realize when the facts are emerging? Don`t know you have opened up other questions. ????
 

Highhopes

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Another story I can relate is I was at a coffee bar where I live and saw some witnesses wearing masks still? I didn`t question their motives at the time but I sort of deducted that they perhaps were indoctrinated to do so in the congregation they go to? or maybe it`s a case of informed consent as far ar they are concerned it is real?????
 

BagdadBill

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This is weird news for me, as you know I am a guest on this site, but know the witnesses are the real deal with the bible interpretation, etc. I can`t think why the governing body would knowingly mislead the flock? perhaps I am naive but would it not just be conformity to the higher authority? Maybe realize when the facts are emerging? Don`t know you have opened up other questions. ????
Satan tried to tempt Jesus. That scripture is very informative to Christians for quite a few reasons but the most important as I see it is that Satan is desperate, and thought he had a chance of corrupting Jesus, our only provision for salvation.
There are things in our history and background that might help explain the why of what we are seeing but as of yet, the truth of them remains hidden from us. The governing body would never say that they colluded with the beast or that they have been infiltrated by the devil.
It has been pointed out on here that many of us have been too focused on the visible governing body, instead of Jesus.
When Covid began, I saw it as a lie immediately. I heard a non-JW woman talk about pharmakeia in a video and I knew that Watchtower had been misleading about the full understanding of what that really is in it's scope. They always chalked it up to weed and recreational drugs and never thought point out the obvious. Drugs are drugs. There was a time when our people refused vaccines. Even called them the work of the devil.
We had it right the first time, so what changed? As I said, there are things that are hidden from us that would explain it all. Meetings and agreements. Handshakes in private.
 

BagdadBill

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Another story I can relate is I was at a coffee bar where I live and saw some witnesses wearing masks still? I didn`t question their motives at the time but I sort of deducted that they perhaps were indoctrinated to do so in the congregation they go to? or maybe it`s a case of informed consent as far ar they are concerned it is real?????
Even taking on Jehovah's name does not protect us from ignorance or a lack of critical thinking. Our people got comfortable with the GB doing the thinking, just like people in the world think that Uncle Sam is going to take care of everything.
 

Highhopes

Member
Satan tried to tempt Jesus. That scripture is very informative to Christians for quite a few reasons but the most important as I see it is that Satan is desperate, and thought he had a chance of corrupting Jesus, our only provision for salvation.
There are things in our history and background that might help explain the why of what we are seeing but as of yet, the truth of them remains hidden from us. The governing body would never say that they colluded with the beast or that they have been infiltrated by the devil.
It has been pointed out on here that many of us have been too focused on the visible governing body, instead of Jesus.
When Covid began, I saw it as a lie immediately. I heard a non-JW woman talk about pharmakeia in a video and I knew that Watchtower had been misleading about the full understanding of what that really is in it's scope. They always chalked it up to weed and recreational drugs and never thought point out the obvious. Drugs are drugs. There was a time when our people refused vaccines. Even called them the work of the devil.
We had it right the first time, so what changed? As I said, there are things that are hidden from us that would explain it all. Meetings and agreements. Handshakes in private.
Very interesting Bill. Good answers there. I Never looked at it that way, it`s also very scary to think infiltration at that level. I too saw the lie and what made me convinced was the Mikki Willis an ex Hollywood cameraman, he got out of Hollywood because of the corruption and pedophilia within. If anybody hasn`t seen this it really does expose the corruption in big pharma and the institutions. That brilliant scientist Dr David Martin ( with the dickie bow) has all the data on the fraud going back 20 years.
PLANDEMIC FULL INDOCTRINATION
https://ugetube.com/watch/plandemic-2-indoctrination-full-documentary_TLAKnO17AMO2TDB.html


I watched this on London Real first with Brian Rose who Hosted it BACK IN APRIL 2020
 

DavidCJ

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Why did the organization turn against the sheep?

Simply because it's prophecy. Whether it's intentional or misled, that's the simple fact. Christendom has never been in favor with Jehovah, so they couldn't have been the ones to astray in the end days. It had to be Jehovah's organization.

One thing I could not definitely answer is why they claim they cannot be inspired but everything they say is correct? True, a lot of fundamental truths came from them. Are the governing body members infallible? How can they be never wrong?
 

Medi-tator

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Even taking on Jehovah's name does not protect us from ignorance or a lack of critical thinking. Our people got comfortable with the GB doing the thinking, just like people in the world think that Uncle Sam is going to take care of everything.
All the while the GB actually insisted on doing all the thinking, stating at meetings and assemblies in a derogatory way and tone that anyone who does their own thinking is "an independent thinker" and should stifle such spiritually damaging mental activities immediately. Wow did we ever fall for that one! Hook, line and sinker!
 

evw

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All the while the GB actually insisted on doing all the thinking, stating at meetings and assemblies in a derogatory way and tone that anyone who does their own thinking is "an independent thinker" and should stifle such spiritually damaging mental activities immediately. Wow did we ever fall for that one! Hook, line and sinker!
Oh yes and this always came after:
"You are not humble, something to work hard at."
 
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