Overpopulation Will Not be Possible in God's Kingdom

[Jahrule]

People used to always argue with me about the impact of everlasting life on the population. One thing is for sure. The earth could sustain a lot, enough to last a long time without problems, especially under optimum conditions. Regardless, eventually humans will need a second planet. It may not even be necessary that we travel very far, either.

A significantly advanced version of humanity, and with Jah's guidance, could probably terraform Mars or even Venus. So what if it's a slow process that would take hundreds of thousands of years. We'll have plenty of time to wait. And during that initial phase we will likely learn a lot. If we could do it for a second planet, we could do it for another planet. And if we could do it for that planet... you get the idea.

 

[jay]

People used to always argue with me about the impact of everlasting life on the population. One thing is for sure. The earth could sustain a lot, enough to last a long time without problems, especially under optimum conditions. Regardless, eventually humans will need a second planet. It may not even be necessary that we travel very far, either.

A significantly advanced version of humanity, and with Jah's guidance, could probably terraform Mars or even Venus. So what if it's a slow process that would take hundreds of thousands of years. We'll have plenty of time to wait. And during that initial phase we will likely learn a lot. If we could do it for a second planet, we could do it for another planet. And if we could do it for that planet... you get the idea.

Bro. I have a problem with the here and now trying to build a faithful relationship with Jehovah and not entertaining population control travel to Mars. The scriptures say that Jehovah has given the earth to man BUT as for the heavens they belong to him. Maybe I am not understanding that scripture accurately. Someone else might want to chime in one this to help me out.

 

[Jahrule]

Bro. I have a problem with the here and now trying to build a faithful relationship with Jehovah and not entertaining population control travel to Mars. The scriptures say that Jehovah has given the earth to man BUT as for the heavens they belong to him. Maybe I am not understanding that scripture accurately. Someone else might want to chime in one this to help me out.

It's important to remember that meaning is based upon the intent of the writer. So it's hard to say what Jah means by that. Nevertheless, I see no problem with exploring other planets. If Earth is a planet, I don't think being on some other planet would be considered "the heavens". It would just be another planet.

 

[jay]

It's important to remember that meaning is based upon the intent of the writer. So it's hard to say what Jah means by that. Nevertheless, I see no problem with exploring other planets. If Earth is a planet, I don't think being on some other planet would be considered "the heavens". It would just be another planet.

So is it livable there for humans?

 

[Jahrule]

So is it livable there for humans?

Think about it like this. The earth was not always habitable for humans either. We know that a planet can go from uninhabitable to habitable. It's possible. It's happened at least once. It was God's will for humans to be a thing. So however he carried that out, it happened. However much time passes: Then humans come onto the scene.

What is one of the first responsibilities Jah gives people besides filling the earth? He told them to subdue the earth. He wanted them to turn the whole world, which at that point was still mostly untamed, into a paradise. Paradise at the time was contained in a very small area. It was God's intention that they expand that paradise. Do you see where I'm going with this? It starts in a garden. Tiny. But one day it would fill the entire earth. Then what? Everything just stops for an eternity? Come on. Use your imagination. I know you're a here and now kinda person, but maybe not everybody's here and now is all that great.

 

[jay]

Think about it like this. The earth was not always habitable for humans either. We know that a planet can go from uninhabitable to habitable. It's possible. It's happened at least once. It was God's will for humans to be a thing. So however he carried that out, it happened. However much time passes: Then humans come onto the scene.

What is one of the first responsibilities Jah gives people besides filling the earth? He told them to subdue the earth. He wanted them to turn the whole world, which at that point was still mostly untamed, into a paradise. Paradise at the time was contained in a very small area. It was God's intention that they expand that paradise. Do you see where I'm going with this? It starts in a garden. Tiny. But one day it would fill the entire earth. Then what? Everything just stops for an eternity? Come on. Use your imagination. I know you're a here and now kinda person, but maybe not everybody's here and now is all that great.

You're a dreamer.

 

[Jahrule]

You're a dreamer.

Yep.

 

[SingleCell]

Billions of years, vast universe.

Billions upon billions upon billions of years. Jehovah made us like him, engineers and moral agents.

You better be a dreamer!

The thing is it will be Jehovah that determines the space, length and depth, which man occupies.

It seems he told Adam and Eve to take the first step with planet earth.

 

[DR75 less 1]

Bro. I have a problem with the here and now trying to build a faithful relationship with Jehovah and not entertaining population control travel to Mars. The scriptures say that Jehovah has given the earth to man BUT as for the heavens they belong to him. Maybe I am not understanding that scripture accurately. Someone else might want to chime in one this to help me out.

Is it out of the question that Jehovah gives other planets to man prehaps. There are billions upon billions of stars. Maybe there are more planets. Jehovah will have no problem making them suitable for life. Sure enough Jehovah owns the heavens and the earth, Still humans will eventually have everlasting life to find out more of what the future holds. Have no clue what population the earth can comfortably hold 100 billion prehaps.

 

[The God Pill]

If the water on the earth's surface is reduced to pre flood levels by water canopy restoration and by the underground reservoirs of the fountains of the watery deep reaquiring a portion of the oceans water the earth would be able to support 50 billion people without any significant carrying capacity raising changes from humans like vertical farming or even factoring in the agricultural productivity of 1.5x oxygen and 5x CO2. If the earth is expanding than there's much less of a limit as far as population moreso rate of increase on the individual planet.

 

[Brother potato]

If the water on the earth's surface is reduced to pre flood levels by water canopy restoration and by the underground reservoirs of the fountains of the watery deep reaquiring a portion of the oceans water the earth would be able to support 50 billion people without any significant carrying capacity raising changes from humans like vertical farming or even factoring in the agricultural productivity of 1.5x oxygen and 5x CO2. If the earth is expanding than there's much less of a limit as far as population moreso rate of increase on the individual planet.

Heavy

 

[DR75 less 1]

Heisenberg theory might be full of it. Still the future holds the secret.

 

[PJ54]

Something to throw into the mix, considering the ideas the flat earthers throw in as well as the hollow earthers, there might much to do on earth itself for starters. One would to be colonize the inner earth if it is meant to be. Another would be to go beyond the ice wall [provided Antarctica is an ice wall & not a continent (Who knows if we could expand the Earth?)]. Colonize the oceans & the sky would be viable. If it were up to me it would be interdimensional as well.

 

[BagdadBill]

I think that moving to other planets is possible and maybe even likely if it suits Jehovah's purpose. I would imagine that it would be the same setup we have now. Earth and Sun. Gravity and air.

 

[Jahrule]

It is possible more land could become available. But even if God lowered the sea levels and changed deserts into tropical wonderlands, we're eventually going to reach either a point where humans stop reproducing or we expand to other worlds. Obviously I am a bit biased in favor of space travel because, well... space travel. Who could get bored in an endless universe?

But yes, as some of you point out, the earth is far from full capacity. If the world was a paradise there could be much more usable land. Maybe someday all the continents will drift back together forming one giant land mass. The world may seem static, but on a geological time scale it's always in motion. No telling what earth will look like 100,000 years from now. Nevertheless, I suspect by then we will already be on multiple planets.

 

[Revvzone]

People used to always argue with me about the impact of everlasting life on the population. One thing is for sure. The earth could sustain a lot, enough to last a long time without problems, especially under optimum conditions. Regardless, eventually humans will need a second planet. It may not even be necessary that we travel very far, either.

A significantly advanced version of humanity, and with Jah's guidance, could probably terraform Mars or even Venus. So what if it's a slow process that would take hundreds of thousands of years. We'll have plenty of time to wait. And during that initial phase we will likely learn a lot. If we could do it for a second planet, we could do it for another planet. And if we could do it for that planet... you get the idea.

What if, instead of traveling to the nearest planet, God makes the seas give way to more dry land, let's say, by as much as 70% land.. reduce the oceans to 30 or even 20%..Let's face it, the oceans seem endless..of course, I'm not sure if the sky's would be as blue... I see no point in being flung like seeds through the universe as a pressing point anytime soon..

 

[The God Pill]

Clearly planets will be colonized eventually on the earth front as far as the oceans are concerned 2 esdras claims the preflood surface was 6/7 land 1/7 water, you look at genesis where it talks about the rivers of Eden and then the maps of the ocean floors the trenches all that and it appears if conditions were restored the oceans would revert to massive rivers thousands of km long.

 

[DavidCJ]

You're a dreamer.

I get your point. Too much to worry about now to think about the future. And I cannot imagine myself what everlasting peace feels like either. Actually if it wasn't for the real bad things then I don't see the current world as so bad. For me, that's the real hard part. I guess that's part of faith too right? Should I "hate" it because I think it might sound boring?

But, it's not a bad thing. Hope is what keeps us going right?

 

[jay]

I think that moving to other planets is possible and maybe even likely if it suits Jehovah's purpose. I would imagine that it would be the same setup we have now. Earth and Sun. Gravity and air.

Interesting Bro. Bill. I don't want to go to other planets. My dream is for Jehovah to make it possible for me to swim in the ocean without scuba. Maybe gills our who knows how he could allow me to stay under just like the fish. I would love to spend hours watching the creation under there. Even flying like a bird. Would that be cool. I have always wanted to fly like an eagle. Maybe Jehovah will make this possible for me instead of leaving earth on some man made space ship. Jettsons👨‍🚀

 

[kenmuldoon55]

Is it out of the question that Jehovah gives other planets to man prehaps. There are billions upon billions of stars. Maybe there are more planets. Jehovah will have no problem making them suitable for life. Sure enough Jehovah owns the heavens and the earth, Still humans will eventually have everlasting life to find out more of what the future holds. Have no clue what population the earth can comfortably hold 100 billion prehaps.

More like billions of galaxies. I’ve often wondered what does Jehovah need with all the physical material universe which even now continues expanding.
Doesn’t Jehovah resume His creative works at some point and hard to Imagine Him being content with just this spec of dust we live on as the only habitable location in this vast universe but as Jay points out we got a lot on our plate now before such fanciful adventures.