Some questions...

[Innocent as Doves]

Hello everyone. I just found this site a few days ago and am happy there are people who have the same questions I do. I have a question that I have not seen addressed yet. (I haven't read everything here yet so maybe I missed it)

About 1-2 months after they started reading off the lists of the available EUA shots and how they emphasized there was not blood in them....(as if that was the ONLY thing we should be worried about)....there was a brief mysterious announcement by one of the elders on Zoom. I don't remember the EXACT words but it was something to the effect of: "If there are any pregnant sisters, please contact the elders". It was super brief, no explanation, and as far as I knew, there weren't any pregnant sisters in my congregation at the time that I could ask. Does anyone else remember an announcement like this? If so, what was it about?

Also, how did most of you handle the 'masking' thing? In the beginning, I was caught off guard with most people and did attempt to wear a mask. I quickly found out I could not handle it....physically or mentally. I did plenty of research on the subject and understood that wearing a mask to prevent a virus is like expecting a chain link fence to keep out mosquitoes. I felt it was just 'Virtue Signaling'....and still do. At the end of 2021 I moved to another state that was not as Tyrannical about masking. Compared to my last state, this state is Paradise. (Yes, I'm being intentionally vague, sorry about that).
Unfortunately though, the congregation did not follow suit with the state as we were 'Highly Encouraged' to wear masks at the KH. By this time, I knew it was just Virtue Signaling and also, honestly, felt like I was going to pass out if I wore a 'real' one for longer than 5 minutes. I stayed on Zoom once I found out that even though we were returning to in person meetings.....the KH was still 'highly encouraging' their use. 99.5% of the friends DID wear them. To me, mask wearing was Satanic. It had NO good use and I contemplated the scripture at 2 Corinthians 3:18. I tried going to the Hall because when I told one of the elders that I could NOT wear a mask....he still encouraged me to go to the in person meetings. But even though I was not wearing a mask, I just kept looking around and freaking out that EVERYONE else was! I left the meeting in tears before it even started. Did anyone else have a similar reaction? And OK, I'm going to say it out loud here now....and I would appreciate if someone tells me the reason for this. For some reason, it is MAINLY the BLACK friends that STILL wear masks. Specifically, Black SISTERS. Why is that? It is also the same in the general population here.....If you see someone wearing a mask in public.....90% of the time it's a Black Female. Why? And it seems they consider it a fashion accessory. One sister here wore a fancy black velvet and rhinestone mask to the meeting....and at our last Regional convention, there was a Black Sister wearing a mask with a cartoon like MOUTH with big red lips printed on it. It was just SO undignified. I pretty much avoid the ones who still insist on wearing masks....because of course, there is no reasoning with them. A good book I read even before the Plandemic started was called: "Good-Bye Germ Theory - Ending a Century of Medical Fraud" by William P. Trebing. Shock of shocks.....Germ Theory is just that! A THEORY! Excellent book if you haven't read it yet. OK....ending my rant here, I have more...but it would be 20 pages long if I covered everything. Hope to read some replies. Thank you.

(See: 11/22/2003 Awake pp 4-8 under title: "Wear a Surgical Mask?" Also, 12/22/05 Awake on page 5 under: "A Unique Pestilence" about 'fear')

 

[Shiloh]

Hello everyone. I just found this site a few days ago and am happy there are people who have the same questions I do. I have a question that I have not seen addressed yet. (I haven't read everything here yet so maybe I missed it)

About 1-2 months after they started reading off the lists of the available EUA shots and how they emphasized there was not blood in them....(as if that was the ONLY thing we should be worried about)....there was a brief mysterious announcement by one of the elders on Zoom. I don't remember the EXACT words but it was something to the effect of: "If there are any pregnant sisters, please contact the elders". It was super brief, no explanation, and as far as I knew, there weren't any pregnant sisters in my congregation at the time that I could ask. Does anyone else remember an announcement like this? If so, what was it about?

Also, how did most of you handle the 'masking' thing? In the beginning, I was caught off guard with most people and did attempt to wear a mask. I quickly found out I could not handle it....physically or mentally. I did plenty of research on the subject and understood that wearing a mask to prevent a virus is like expecting a chain link fence to keep out mosquitoes. I felt it was just 'Virtue Signaling'....and still do. At the end of 2021 I moved to another state that was not as Tyrannical about masking. Compared to my last state, this state is Paradise. (Yes, I'm being intentionally vague, sorry about that).
Unfortunately though, the congregation did not follow suit with the state as we were 'Highly Encouraged' to wear masks at the KH. By this time, I knew it was just Virtue Signaling and also, honestly, felt like I was going to pass out if I wore a 'real' one for longer than 5 minutes. I stayed on Zoom once I found out that even though we were returning to in person meetings.....the KH was still 'highly encouraging' their use. 99.5% of the friends DID wear them. To me, mask wearing was Satanic. It had NO good use and I contemplated the scripture at 2 Corinthians 3:18. I tried going to the Hall because when I told one of the elders that I could NOT wear a mask....he still encouraged me to go to the in person meetings. But even though I was not wearing a mask, I just kept looking around and freaking out that EVERYONE else was! I left the meeting in tears before it even started. Did anyone else have a similar reaction? And OK, I'm going to say it out loud here now....and I would appreciate if someone tells me the reason for this. For some reason, it is MAINLY the BLACK friends that STILL wear masks. Specifically, Black SISTERS. Why is that? It is also the same in the general population here.....If you see someone wearing a mask in public.....90% of the time it's a Black Female. Why? And it seems they consider it a fashion accessory. One sister here wore a fancy black velvet and rhinestone mask to the meeting....and at our last Regional convention, there was a Black Sister wearing a mask with a cartoon like MOUTH with big red lips printed on it. It was just SO undignified. I pretty much avoid the ones who still insist on wearing masks....because of course, there is no reasoning with them. A good book I read even before the Plandemic started was called: "Good-Bye Germ Theory - Ending a Century of Medical Fraud" by William P. Trebing. Shock of shocks.....Germ Theory is just that! A THEORY! Excellent book if you haven't read it yet. OK....ending my rant here, I have more...but it would be 20 pages long if I covered everything. Hope to read some replies. Thank you.

(See: 11/22/2003 Awake pp 4-8 under title: "Wear a Surgical Mask?" Also, 12/22/05 Awake on page 5 under: "A Unique Pestilence" about 'fear')

Welcome to the forum. I don't have any answers for you as I don't attend meetings. I don't live in a state wear masks are still required and I'm sure they aren't really helpful. But I'm glad you are here.

 

[a watcher]

I had a big problem with the JW Covid hysteria and went inactive for 3 years because of it.

 

[Carl]

Also, how did most of you handle the 'masking' thing? In the beginning, I was caught off guard with most people and did attempt to wear a mask. I quickly found out I could not handle it....physically or mentally.

Welcome to the forum!

I couldn’t wear the mask once I realized it was useless and all a show of obedience. I got angry when I was forced to wear it… leading to high levels of anxiety. This led to me not flying or traveling very much. I have a very low tolerance for bull

 

[Carl]

Germ Theory is just that! A THEORY!

Germs are real… bacterial & parasites are at least. The jury is still out on viruses. I’m not sold on either side, but I lean towards viruses not being the cause of illness, but rather the result of cellular damage. There’s simply too much false information to know what’s true and what’s a psyop. I’ve decided to “wait on Jehovah” for the answer.

 

[Innocent as Doves]

I had a big problem with the JW Covid hysteria and went inactive for 3 years because of it.

I was at that breaking point many times also! (Read my post on the Adverse-Events-JW.org site about Heb 10:24,25.)
Up to that point, I remember reading story after story how the Witnesses would face death in order to meet together regularly while under ban. And now, because of a 'Flu' we are ignoring Heb 10:24,25? I just didn't understand. I would go everywhere still with no mask on. I didn't get 'Covid' until early 2022....if that's what it was (never tested....and even if you did test, the PCR test were not for diagnosing Covid!) I trusted my God Given Immune System more than the corrupt Pharmaceutical companies. There's one black sister from my last congregation who EVEN on ZOOM....wears a mask. This is Munchausen Syndrome. It's Paranoia and Mental Illness. It should NOT be encouraged. I am also partially HOH (hard of hearing) AND many people in our KH have thick accents. It was just too hard to have a meaningful conversation with ANYONE wearing a mask.

Did the brothers know that was the reason you went inactive? If so, did they try to help or encourage you in any way....or were THEY also Paranoid about 'Covid'? One brother, when we had a congregation Zoom Meeting to discuss the Circuit Assembly together made a statement as I was signing on to Zoom that just made me log off immediately. He was making a statement that "Witnesses that got the Vaccine were much SMARTER than those who didn't". This was an Elder making this statement. Between 2021 and 2022 I just tensed up anytime I sensed another talk on the meeting relating to Covid. A sister 5 years younger than me died of Turbo Cancer 5 months after getting the Vax. I used to move out of the frame of the Zoom cam anytime they would discuss anything about Covid because I knew I could not stay calm and collected.....my facial expressions would surely show I was not in agreement. But, unlike others testimonies here, No one ASKED me if I got the Vax....but then I heard about Regular Pioneers and Elders being REQUIRED to get it in order to attend the schools. I couldn't believe it! My best friend has a daughter in Bethel.....she was against the Vax....and then, next thing I knew, she told me she had gotten it 'in order to see her daughter'!! WHAT?! Why? I'd like to hear from people that were in Bethel during those years. My friend said that she found out through here daughter that a YOUNG brother (as most of them are in Bethel) had a heart attack....not sure if he lived or died....but there HAS to more than just one. Our congregations are FULL of SICK people who have gotten VAXXED. But I feel that pressure that I cannot talk about it to anyone. I still have sleepless nights over this situation. But I continue to walk on eggshells around the friends.

 

[Innocent as Doves]

Germs are real… bacterial & parasites are at least. The jury is still out on viruses. I’m not sold on either side, but I lean towards viruses not being the cause of illness, but rather the result of cellular damage. There’s simply too much false information to know what’s true and what’s a psyop. I’ve decided to “wait on Jehovah” for the answer.

Oh yes, Germs are real. But the 'theory' is that Germs make you sick. There have been many trials where they purposely swabbed a sick persons nose and throat and then deliberately tried to "INFECT" a healthy person by transferring their 'germs'....but they did NOT get sick. I've experienced this my whole life. I've been around many a sick, supposedly 'contagious' person....but never got sick MYSELF. What about Doctors and Nurses? If Germs were 'contagious'.....wouldn't they all be sick all the time? BTW, did you know the Bible does NOT mention the words 'Cough' or 'Sneeze' even one time? Interesting I think. I also agree on the cellular damage. We are being poisoned from every direction. Air, Water, Food and even thoughts. Satan is the 'ruler of the authority of the air'. Eph 2:2 We are being poisoned....but not by breathing on each other! Doesn't the word Virus even MEAN poison? Also interesting. Thank you for your reply.

 

[Melinda]

wearing a mask with a cartoon like MOUTH with big red lips printed on it. It was just SO undignified. I pretty much avoid the ones

Hello everyone. I just found this site a few days ago and am happy there are people who have the same questions I do. I have a question that I have not seen addressed yet. (I haven't read everything here yet so maybe I missed it)

About 1-2 months after they started reading off the lists of the available EUA shots and how they emphasized there was not blood in them....(as if that was the ONLY thing we should be worried about)....there was a brief mysterious announcement by one of the elders on Zoom. I don't remember the EXACT words but it was something to the effect of: "If there are any pregnant sisters, please contact the elders". It was super brief, no explanation, and as far as I knew, there weren't any pregnant sisters in my congregation at the time that I could ask. Does anyone else remember an announcement like this? If so, what was it about?

Also, how did most of you handle the 'masking' thing? In the beginning, I was caught off guard with most people and did attempt to wear a mask. I quickly found out I could not handle it....physically or mentally. I did plenty of research on the subject and understood that wearing a mask to prevent a virus is like expecting a chain link fence to keep out mosquitoes. I felt it was just 'Virtue Signaling'....and still do. At the end of 2021 I moved to another state that was not as Tyrannical about masking. Compared to my last state, this state is Paradise. (Yes, I'm being intentionally vague, sorry about that).
Unfortunately though, the congregation did not follow suit with the state as we were 'Highly Encouraged' to wear masks at the KH. By this time, I knew it was just Virtue Signaling and also, honestly, felt like I was going to pass out if I wore a 'real' one for longer than 5 minutes. I stayed on Zoom once I found out that even though we were returning to in person meetings.....the KH was still 'highly encouraging' their use. 99.5% of the friends DID wear them. To me, mask wearing was Satanic. It had NO good use and I contemplated the scripture at 2 Corinthians 3:18. I tried going to the Hall because when I told one of the elders that I could NOT wear a mask....he still encouraged me to go to the in person meetings. But even though I was not wearing a mask, I just kept looking around and freaking out that EVERYONE else was! I left the meeting in tears before it even started. Did anyone else have a similar reaction? And OK, I'm going to say it out loud here now....and I would appreciate if someone tells me the reason for this. For some reason, it is MAINLY the BLACK friends that STILL wear masks. Specifically, Black SISTERS. Why is that? It is also the same in the general population here.....If you see someone wearing a mask in public.....90% of the time it's a Black Female. Why? And it seems they consider it a fashion accessory. One sister here wore a fancy black velvet and rhinestone mask to the meeting....and at our last Regional convention, there was a Black Sister wearing a mask with a cartoon like MOUTH with big red lips printed on it. It was just SO undignified. I pretty much avoid the ones who still insist on wearing masks....because of course, there is no reasoning with them. A good book I read even before the Plandemic started was called: "Good-Bye Germ Theory - Ending a Century of Medical Fraud" by William P. Trebing. Shock of shocks.....Germ Theory is just that! A THEORY! Excellent book if you haven't read it yet. OK....ending my rant here, I have more...but it would be 20 pages long if I covered everything. Hope to read some replies. Thank you.

(See: 11/22/2003 Awake pp 4-8 under title: "Wear a Surgical Mask?" Also, 12/22/05 Awake on page 5 under: "A Unique Pestilence" about 'fear')

Welcome to the forum. You will find this is not at all like the XJW community. We love Jehovah and cherish the basic truths that has brought us all together. Many are here because they recognize something has gone wrong with the direction the leadership is taking Jehovahs people. Things don’t add up in paradise anymore. You can ask critical questions. I promise you will find the answers and your faith will be strengthened. We are so glad you’re here.

 

[StopTheInsanity]

I was at that breaking point many times also! (Read my post on the Adverse-Events-JW.org site about Heb 10:24,25.)
Up to that point, I remember reading story after story how the Witnesses would face death in order to meet together regularly while under ban. And now, because of a 'Flu' we are ignoring Heb 10:24,25? I just didn't understand. I would go everywhere still with no mask on. I didn't get 'Covid' until early 2022....if that's what it was (never tested....and even if you did test, the PCR test were not for diagnosing Covid!) I trusted my God Given Immune System more than the corrupt Pharmaceutical companies. There's one black sister from my last congregation who EVEN on ZOOM....wears a mask. This is Munchausen Syndrome. It's Paranoia and Mental Illness. It should NOT be encouraged. I am also partially HOH (hard of hearing) AND many people in our KH have thick accents. It was just too hard to have a meaningful conversation with ANYONE wearing a mask.

Did the brothers know that was the reason you went inactive? If so, did they try to help or encourage you in any way....or were THEY also Paranoid about 'Covid'? One brother, when we had a congregation Zoom Meeting to discuss the Circuit Assembly together made a statement as I was signing on to Zoom that just made me log off immediately. He was making a statement that "Witnesses that got the Vaccine were much SMARTER than those who didn't". This was an Elder making this statement. Between 2021 and 2022 I just tensed up anytime I sensed another talk on the meeting relating to Covid. A sister 5 years younger than me died of Turbo Cancer 5 months after getting the Vax. I used to move out of the frame of the Zoom cam anytime they would discuss anything about Covid because I knew I could not stay calm and collected.....my facial expressions would surely show I was not in agreement. But, unlike others testimonies here, No one ASKED me if I got the Vax....but then I heard about Regular Pioneers and Elders being REQUIRED to get it in order to attend the schools. I couldn't believe it! My best friend has a daughter in Bethel.....she was against the Vax....and then, next thing I knew, she told me she had gotten it 'in order to see her daughter'!! WHAT?! Why? I'd like to hear from people that were in Bethel during those years. My friend said that she found out through here daughter that a YOUNG brother (as most of them are in Bethel) had a heart attack....not sure if he lived or died....but there HAS to more than just one. Our congregations are FULL of SICK people who have gotten VAXXED. But I feel that pressure that I cannot talk about it to anyone. I still have sleepless nights over this situation. But I continue to walk on eggshells around the friends.

Thank you for sharing your story. I suspect more Bethelites got sick than they ever told us. The broadcast featured a man with his wife who got cancer while and Bethel and later died. My gut tells me it's from the vaccine, but of course, I can't prove it.

 

[StopTheInsanity]

I was at that breaking point many times also! (Read my post on the Adverse-Events-JW.org site about Heb 10:24,25.)
Up to that point, I remember reading story after story how the Witnesses would face death in order to meet together regularly while under ban. And now, because of a 'Flu' we are ignoring Heb 10:24,25? I just didn't understand. I would go everywhere still with no mask on. I didn't get 'Covid' until early 2022....if that's what it was (never tested....and even if you did test, the PCR test were not for diagnosing Covid!) I trusted my God Given Immune System more than the corrupt Pharmaceutical companies. There's one black sister from my last congregation who EVEN on ZOOM....wears a mask. This is Munchausen Syndrome. It's Paranoia and Mental Illness. It should NOT be encouraged. I am also partially HOH (hard of hearing) AND many people in our KH have thick accents. It was just too hard to have a meaningful conversation with ANYONE wearing a mask.

Did the brothers know that was the reason you went inactive? If so, did they try to help or encourage you in any way....or were THEY also Paranoid about 'Covid'? One brother, when we had a congregation Zoom Meeting to discuss the Circuit Assembly together made a statement as I was signing on to Zoom that just made me log off immediately. He was making a statement that "Witnesses that got the Vaccine were much SMARTER than those who didn't". This was an Elder making this statement. Between 2021 and 2022 I just tensed up anytime I sensed another talk on the meeting relating to Covid. A sister 5 years younger than me died of Turbo Cancer 5 months after getting the Vax. I used to move out of the frame of the Zoom cam anytime they would discuss anything about Covid because I knew I could not stay calm and collected.....my facial expressions would surely show I was not in agreement. But, unlike others testimonies here, No one ASKED me if I got the Vax....but then I heard about Regular Pioneers and Elders being REQUIRED to get it in order to attend the schools. I couldn't believe it! My best friend has a daughter in Bethel.....she was against the Vax....and then, next thing I knew, she told me she had gotten it 'in order to see her daughter'!! WHAT?! Why? I'd like to hear from people that were in Bethel during those years. My friend said that she found out through here daughter that a YOUNG brother (as most of them are in Bethel) had a heart attack....not sure if he lived or died....but there HAS to more than just one. Our congregations are FULL of SICK people who have gotten VAXXED. But I feel that pressure that I cannot talk about it to anyone. I still have sleepless nights over this situation. But I continue to walk on eggshells around the friends.

9 out of 10 cells in our body are from bacteria. And most are found in our gut. When we defecate, most of the stool is dead bacteria. Our guts are like compost bins. They break down fiber when is then fermented and converted into short-chain fatty acids like butyrate which is highly anti inflammatory. Antibiotics wipe out all the bad AND good bacteria in our guts. They feed antibiotics to livestock which makes its way into our bodies.

The pesticides are also antibacterial. In addition, mercury is an antibacterial. It is an adjuvant added to vaccines. It is also added to contact lense solution as an antibacterial.

We need the proper balance of bacteria in order to be healthy. All of us have e. coli and candida in our guts, but when in the right balance, it does not harm us. It's only when we eat too much sugar/alcohol and when we take too many antibiotics that things get out of balance.

Our Creator did not leave us vulnerable to infections.

Essential oils are also antibacterial such as cinnamon and clove. These were part of the holy oils used in the temple by the priest who were slaughtering the animals. Jehovah knew how to keep them safe. In addition, silver is an antibacterial and hospital staff know it and they line their curtains with it.

An Norwegian company, Norwex, who makes microfiber cleaning cloths, lines their clothes and tooth brushes with antibacterial silver and trademarked it under the name "baclock".

Guess what many of the temple utensils were made of? Yep: silver. So the bacteria in the water was disinfected by the silver cups.

Jehovah knows how to keep us healthy. So glad to have you on the forum.

 

[a watcher]

...Did the brothers know that was the reason you went inactive? If so, did they try to help or encourage you in any way....or were THEY also Paranoid about 'Covid'?...

Yes. They tried to get me on Zoom and writing letters, but I refused. I was furious they locked me out of the KH and banned door-to-door preaching. ALL of my closest friends went running to get the vaccines/boosters; I refused, and I was soft shunned for it.

 

[Citrine]

Ok I haven’t read all the comments on here so here goes. I am firmly in the terrain camp. Not sorry.

 

[BagdadBill]

Other than some of the things I learned in Health class in 11th grade, I don't know what to believe for certain. I do know we have an immune system. This has been proven by science. It only makes it more weird that scientists were trying to tell us not to believe in nor trust our immune system during the Covid operation. I say operation to borrow a phrase coined by Pam Popper. It was clearly planned before it was sprung on us. I'm no rocket scientist but I know a rat when I smell one.
I had not been to meetings for years previous to covid and it is probably a good thing because I did not react to the mask wearing as expected. In fact I didn't buy into any of it. I still believe that people were abused and mangled so as to use the yearly flu as a tool to propagate the covid lies. People die every year from something we still call influenza and it's usually around winter time. We don't freak out about it because just like driving a car, we know that a certain number of people will die.
At work I agreed to wear a mask in the cafeteria if students were present. I should mention that of all the people at the school I worked for, those who typically vote Democrat or are known liberals were the staunch mask wearers. Now I live in the South USA and when the temps started dropping last fall, I noticed that only black people were still wearing masks. I don't know if there is an explanation for that but it is what I noticed. Now and then I'll see a few white people wearing them but not much. People are worn out from this. What will Watchtower do when the next scamdemic comes around? We are being promised that we will have one. That news broke courtesy of Bill Gates about three and a half years ago. Before we even had the supposed vaccines. Yes, he was already planning out the next one. It doesn't take much brain power to see through that.
I also am leaning strongly toward terrain theory. If you consume junk and get no exercise other than shoveling food into your mouth then you aren't maintaining the terrain of your body very well.

 

[StopTheInsanity]

Other than some of the things I learned in Health class in 11th grade, I don't know what to believe for certain. I do know we have an immune system. This has been proven by science. It only makes it more weird that scientists were trying to tell us not to believe in nor trust our immune system during the Covid operation. I say operation to borrow a phrase coined by Pam Popper. It was clearly planned before it was sprung on us. I'm no rocket scientist but I know a rat when I smell one.
I had not been to meetings for years previous to covid and it is probably a good thing because I did not react to the mask wearing as expected. In fact I didn't buy into any of it. I still believe that people were abused and mangled so as to use the yearly flu as a tool to propagate the covid lies. People die every year from something we still call influenza and it's usually around winter time. We don't freak out about it because just like driving a car, we know that a certain number of people will die.
At work I agreed to wear a mask in the cafeteria if students were present. I should mention that of all the people at the school I worked for, those who typically vote Democrat or are known liberals were the staunch mask wearers. Now I live in the South USA and when the temps started dropping last fall, I noticed that only black people were still wearing masks. I don't know if there is an explanation for that but it is what I noticed. Now and then I'll see a few white people wearing them but not much. People are worn out from this. What will Watchtower do when the next scamdemic comes around? We are being promised that we will have one. That news broke courtesy of Bill Gates about three and a half years ago. Before we even had the supposed vaccines. Yes, he was already planning out the next one. It doesn't take much brain power to see through that.
I also am leaning strongly toward terrain theory. If you consume junk and get no exercise other than shoveling food into your mouth then you aren't maintaining the terrain of your body very well.

I've been watching Pam Popper for years.

 

[Wide Awake]

I'd like to hear from people that were in Bethel during those years. My friend said that she found out through here daughter that a YOUNG brother (as most of them are in Bethel) had a heart attack....not sure if he lived or died....but there HAS to more than just one.

Welcome to the forum!

We were NOT at bethel, however we heard through others that someone did have a heart attack at bethel as a result of taking the V (they survived as far as we last knew). We heard several had some other side effects as well. We know quite a few in the special FT service. We were told if they left bethel to see family they had to stay with family that was Vaxxed. So, that could explain why your friend got it, if the daughter came to visit. We cannot verify ALL of this but do trust those who told us and did see some letters about some of it.

We did see on reddit a CO and his wife wouldn't take it and were taken off their assignment.

Several brothers including Elders/ CO's and Sisters made comments (even recently) that were just cruel about the unvaxxed and we just have had enough of the comments and have stopped attending meetings and field service now. We love Jehovah and know he must be disgusted as much as we are with all of this.

We hope you find encouragement here!

 

[NinevehByWayOfTarshish]

Hello everyone. I just found this site a few days ago and am happy there are people who have the same questions I do. I have a question that I have not seen addressed yet. (I haven't read everything here yet so maybe I missed it)

About 1-2 months after they started reading off the lists of the available EUA shots and how they emphasized there was not blood in them....(as if that was the ONLY thing we should be worried about)....there was a brief mysterious announcement by one of the elders on Zoom. I don't remember the EXACT words but it was something to the effect of: "If there are any pregnant sisters, please contact the elders". It was super brief, no explanation, and as far as I knew, there weren't any pregnant sisters in my congregation at the time that I could ask. Does anyone else remember an announcement like this? If so, what was it about?

Also, how did most of you handle the 'masking' thing? In the beginning, I was caught off guard with most people and did attempt to wear a mask. I quickly found out I could not handle it....physically or mentally. I did plenty of research on the subject and understood that wearing a mask to prevent a virus is like expecting a chain link fence to keep out mosquitoes. I felt it was just 'Virtue Signaling'....and still do. At the end of 2021 I moved to another state that was not as Tyrannical about masking. Compared to my last state, this state is Paradise. (Yes, I'm being intentionally vague, sorry about that).
Unfortunately though, the congregation did not follow suit with the state as we were 'Highly Encouraged' to wear masks at the KH. By this time, I knew it was just Virtue Signaling and also, honestly, felt like I was going to pass out if I wore a 'real' one for longer than 5 minutes. I stayed on Zoom once I found out that even though we were returning to in person meetings.....the KH was still 'highly encouraging' their use. 99.5% of the friends DID wear them. To me, mask wearing was Satanic. It had NO good use and I contemplated the scripture at 2 Corinthians 3:18. I tried going to the Hall because when I told one of the elders that I could NOT wear a mask....he still encouraged me to go to the in person meetings. But even though I was not wearing a mask, I just kept looking around and freaking out that EVERYONE else was! I left the meeting in tears before it even started. Did anyone else have a similar reaction? And OK, I'm going to say it out loud here now....and I would appreciate if someone tells me the reason for this. For some reason, it is MAINLY the BLACK friends that STILL wear masks. Specifically, Black SISTERS. Why is that? It is also the same in the general population here.....If you see someone wearing a mask in public.....90% of the time it's a Black Female. Why? And it seems they consider it a fashion accessory. One sister here wore a fancy black velvet and rhinestone mask to the meeting....and at our last Regional convention, there was a Black Sister wearing a mask with a cartoon like MOUTH with big red lips printed on it. It was just SO undignified. I pretty much avoid the ones who still insist on wearing masks....because of course, there is no reasoning with them. A good book I read even before the Plandemic started was called: "Good-Bye Germ Theory - Ending a Century of Medical Fraud" by William P. Trebing. Shock of shocks.....Germ Theory is just that! A THEORY! Excellent book if you haven't read it yet. OK....ending my rant here, I have more...but it would be 20 pages long if I covered everything. Hope to read some replies. Thank you.

(See: 11/22/2003 Awake pp 4-8 under title: "Wear a Surgical Mask?" Also, 12/22/05 Awake on page 5 under: "A Unique Pestilence" about 'fear')

Welcome, I'm relatively new as well.

I think the Org's hysterical over reaction to COVID is going to be their ultimate undoing. It woke me the rest of the way up, and got my wife awake too.

The local laws in Canada required us to mask as a public place. So for that time I wore it a hated every second. My wife however refused from the get go. I was inspired from her courage, and I wrote a letter resigning from my privileges, because I couldn't in good conscience wear a mask, I considered it a superstition. My local elder body reacted way more chill than I expected, they said they understood, and asked me if I could be zoom operator, cuz that was something I could do from home. There was some reason they couldn't allow members operating the meetings without a mask because of the local mandate, but members of the public could abstain. That's how it was explained to me, anyhow.

Eventually the mandates were dropped and it became "strongly encouraged" at that time the brothers asked me to come back and just not worry about wearing a mask, so I did. And I think I started a trend, by the end of the first month most had taken there's off. That was like late 22, most were not REALLY afraid of the Vid by then. It was mostly a performative act by then. But sadly, to this day the remaining true believers still wear their mask, it's about 10 or so in my hall(none of the black brothers or sisters, but it's canada there's only 5 in my hall, and that's above average)

Not totally apposed to Terrain theory, it makes sense to be proactive with health, but I still think germs, both bacteria and viruses could be a factor in illness even if it's more tangential. That said, who is there knowing? Not me.

Cheers

 

[NinevehByWayOfTarshish]

Welcome to the forum!

We were NOT at bethel, however we heard through others that someone did have a heart attack at bethel as a result of taking the V (they survived as far as we last knew). We heard several had some other side effects as well. We know quite a few in the special FT service. We were told if they left bethel to see family they had to stay with family that was Vaxxed. So, that could explain why your friend got it, if the daughter came to visit. We cannot verify ALL of this but do trust those who told us and did see some letters about some of it.

We did see on reddit a CO and his wife wouldn't take it and were taken off their assignment.

Several brothers including Elders/ CO's and Sisters made comments (even recently) that were just cruel about the unvaxxed and we just have had enough of the comments and have stopped attending meetings and field service now. We love Jehovah and know he must be disgusted as much as we are with all of this.

We hope you find encouragement here!

I know an elder in Italy who got removed, he was back up CO...

I also heard about a few heart problems at Canada bethel. Also can't confirm or anything.

My father in law had a heart attack days after his second dose ... My friend got myocarditis, couldn't work for 6 months.

Trust the Science.

 

[NinevehByWayOfTarshish]

Ok I haven’t read all the comments on here so here goes. I am firmly in the terrain camp. Not sorry.

Hey no shame in that friend, I'm very open to Terrain theory, it just makes sense to be proactive with our health and take care of our terrain. Whether germs are factor in cause of illness, who really knows, not me. Better to take care of the terrain anyways. Can't hurt.

 

[alan ford]

Trust the Science.

 

[Carl]

Oh yes, Germs are real. But the 'theory' is that Germs make you sick. There have been many trials where they purposely swabbed a sick persons nose and throat and then deliberately tried to "INFECT" a healthy person by transferring their 'germs'....but they did NOT get sick. I've experienced this my whole life. I've been around many a sick, supposedly 'contagious' person....but never got sick MYSELF. What about Doctors and Nurses? If Germs were 'contagious'.....wouldn't they all be sick all the time? BTW, did you know the Bible does NOT mention the words 'Cough' or 'Sneeze' even one time? Interesting I think. I also agree on the cellular damage. We are being poisoned from every direction. Air, Water, Food and even thoughts. Satan is the 'ruler of the authority of the air'. Eph 2:2 We are being poisoned....but not by breathing on each other! Doesn't the word Virus even MEAN poison? Also interesting. Thank you for your reply.

I'm unvaccinated; and I got COVID in 2021 after being exposed to a vaccinated friend who was symptomatic and tested positive the next day. It only took 30 minutes for me to start feeling sick after initial exposure, and the next day I was running at about 50% of my normal self. Another unvaccinated friend was also exposed, but didn't get sick. Within 2 days I was back to 100%. No biological infection causes symptoms that fast! For an infection to occur, the "germ" has to make contact, enter the cell, replicate and repeat. Most pathogens are opportunistic. Once enough cells have been infected, the immune system's response to the cellular debris is why we feel sick. I take a lot of anti-oxidant and detox supplements, which helps my immune system rest. A lot of people's immune systems are constantly active due to the poisons in our food, air and water. Some chronic illnesses are due to immune system hyperactivity.

COVID is, in my opinion, a chemical weapon and not a virus.... and vaccine is the delivery mechanism for this weapon. COVID effects people differently based on their individual immune systems/genetics. I had been sequestered in my home all of 2020 and 2021, except for infrequent trips to the store, because I was disqusted by the public and government's response to COVID... i.e. masks, social distancing and the general paranoia and rudeness some people displayed. My friend who didn't catch COVID had been around a lot more people. From what I've gathered, the more people you're around on a daily basis, the more experience your immune system gets to other people's DNA that's expelled with every breath. Cytokines are also exhaled, which are small proteins that play an important role in our immune system's signaling system.