"Thanks to Jehovah and the governing body."
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True, but I'm more shocked at how they've elevated themselves amongst jws as shown by this sisters comment.
I do think if they continued door to door service and in person meetings during the pandemic they would have been accused of putting peoples lives in danger. I mean that was the mind set of most listening to mainstream media that this was a highly contagious virus, no one really knew what it was or how dangerous it was when it first appeared and many still believe to this day that it has killed millions. I caught covid and it was no picnic that's for sure so honestly I would've been apprehensive if the org told us to keep meeting and preaching during covid. Just my opinion. I'm sure I'll get a lot of slack for this comment but I just tell it like I see it.
BARNABY THE DOG.
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I do not see why you should get slack for saying what is true! The world was in panic at the time. Who would not be disturbed by what was painted. The outbreak of Spanish flu a hundred years ago demanded that people be imprisoned (and were) if they did not quarantine as required. Certainly those in America were far quicker in uncovering the hoax - too late for many here in England and Europe but that is the way of things. It is what we do with the knowledge now. Regardless though, it is what Watchtower knowingly undertook in the light of that knowledge compared with the rational issues regarding its remit, albeit self assumed. Yes, they would have been censured for breaking what was law, but that is for them to stand up and be counted for, but instead, they chose to fold and collaborate instead of stand up and be counted as a witness to truth. It would have cost them dearly, but that is ultimately, the challenge that all of us must endure sooner or later. Having chosen to fold and deny faith, they have set a dangerous lesson for the flock. And worse, they have claimed Jehovah’s backing for their decision rather that admit that they should have stood up to be counted for their faith in carrying on even in the face of death. They sold all that for fear of man and prosecution for doing what was right.
However, there is precedent for guidance even in the biblical rendering of leprosy. I cannot recall the passage (help here someone!) but did not christIan folk go to those ones in spite of the risk in infection? I believe they did. If that is the case, then there is the lead for us to follow. We should try to do likewise.
I am not sure folks would have appreciated our visiting them in the midst of this pandemic real or man-made. Some of them already think we are fanatics. I am not saying our faith is based on reactions of what public want or don't want. I know I would not go. I already have medical issues. My mind would have said be careful if they continued with D 2 D or other forms of witnessing outside because as already stated no one knew what we were dealing with. Especially with all the nonsensical explanations the public were given.
I also believe only the hard core pimi's would go d to d anyway. But that is just my thinking.
I lost 3 family members in a span of three weeks from this whatever it really is virus?? Lost husband as well. On his death certificate it said possible COVID. It was awful I was not allowed to go with him to hospital after I called ambulance. He was ill and unresponsive.
However a nurse from ICU called later she told me come to ICU now and I could visit hubby by looking through window. It was horrible. Five minutes later had to leave. About three hours later early in morning they called back he was not gonna make it. Not long after that final visit a call came that he had passed. I never saw my husband after that. I called funeral home and they took him to crematory which he wanted from our earlier discussions. The funeral home did give me his bag of belongings from hospital, but his wedding band was not in it.
Talk about PTSD. I have mental pictures of him lying there and not being able to comfort a loved one withering in pain popping up in my brain at unexpected times. I pray NO ONE WE LOVE has to go through that during a medical crisis.
So whether their decision to halt preaching work was wise or not or how Jehovah and Jesus feel about that decision. I don't know. Could they have handled it another way, I don't know.
All I know is my sister lost her husband, mother in law and her husband's brother. A week later I lost my husband. My sister had covid but lived. A niece took care of her.
My understanding was if they were not sure of what you died from at that time they put on the death certificate possible covid. Oh and covid ran rampant in my little living community. It went up and down each block of houses and we all were petrified to even come out. No kids outside playing. It was eerily quiet.
Hope all stay safe. This nasty disease is still around. As Goldie said if you get it it is no picnic.
I read that on jw the other day. Made me nauseous. Just wanted to add where do they get this stuff. The constant drum beating of how joyful this is and sister with the tissues and aren't we thrilled, it gets old and tiresome after years and years of recycled experiences.
It sounds so rehearsed or plastic (due to lack of another word). They say be happy so be happy . Of course they always have to say how Jehovah feels. Yes we know how Jehovah feels about his name being used to justify their doings. Makes me ill.
I also believe only the hard core pimi's would go d to d anyway. But that is just my thinking.
I lost 3 family members in a span of three weeks from this whatever it really is virus?? Lost husband as well. On his death certificate it said possible COVID. It was awful I was not allowed to go with him to hospital after I called ambulance. He was ill and unresponsive.
However a nurse from ICU called later she told me come to ICU now and I could visit hubby by looking through window. It was horrible. Five minutes later had to leave. About three hours later early in morning they called back he was not gonna make it. Not long after that final visit a call came that he had passed. I never saw my husband after that. I called funeral home and they took him to crematory which he wanted from our earlier discussions. The funeral home did give me his bag of belongings from hospital, but his wedding band was not in it.
Talk about PTSD. I have mental pictures of him lying there and not being able to comfort a loved one withering in pain popping up in my brain at unexpected times. I pray NO ONE WE LOVE has to go through that during a medical crisis.
So whether their decision to halt preaching work was wise or not or how Jehovah and Jesus feel about that decision. I don't know. Could they have handled it another way, I don't know.
All I know is my sister lost her husband, mother in law and her husband's brother. A week later I lost my husband. My sister had covid but lived. A niece took care of her.
My understanding was if they were not sure of what you died from at that time they put on the death certificate possible covid. Oh and covid ran rampant in my little living community. It went up and down each block of houses and we all were petrified to even come out. No kids outside playing. It was eerily quiet.
Hope all stay safe. This nasty disease is still around. As Goldie said if you get it it is no picnic.
I read that on jw the other day. Made me nauseous. Just wanted to add where do they get this stuff. The constant drum beating of how joyful this is and sister with the tissues and aren't we thrilled, it gets old and tiresome after years and years of recycled experiences.
It sounds so rehearsed or plastic (due to lack of another word). They say be happy so be happy . Of course they always have to say how Jehovah feels. Yes we know how Jehovah feels about his name being used to justify their doings. Makes me ill.
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I understand but surely they had fo
Lockdown because of laws passed in the different countries? Obviously they took a while to reopen
I'm so very sorry for your loss sister, how awful! we need the new system so much. I hope and pray Jehovah continues to comfort you and your loved ones through this difficult time.
I agree with everything you stated above. I know I wouldn't have went door to door during covid and I personally think phone witnessing and letter writing was a good choice, we had many great conversations with people on the phone who wouldnt ordinarily have opened their door, not to mention all the bible studies that were started so I would not say they stopped the witnessing work I think in light of all that was happening on the world scene and all the uncertainties of covid during that time I think it was a wise choice.
Yeah, but the WT has always said that preaching was an all-important, life-saving work. If JWs dutifully got vaccinated and vaccination provides full immunity and prevents contagion, as all the "experts" claimed, then there was no reason to avoid being out in the ministry. Besides, as I have pointed out many times, in the last presidential election campaign Trump supporters knocked on about a half million doors per week. That was in the summer of 2021 when 8 million JWs were sheltering in place because they had been told by the GB that is was foolhardy to venture outside. There was no backlash even by Democrats. Neither were there any reports of mass contagion caused by Trump's door knockers. Eventually, JW's will need to come to grips with the fact that the GB perpetuated the grand scam orchestrated by the globalists.
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My computer, printer and fingers are still getting a workout from letter writing. Think my printer is getting tired though.
Thanks for your comforting words Goldie. It is tough but so glad we know Jehovah. The only thing I don't like are the pop up images of him in hospital that come. You never know when they come out of know where. Anything can trigger them. Other than that I keep going knowing he would not want me to fall apart totally.
Plus staying in Jehovahs word is a Must. Take care of you and yours.
Sorry don't mean to make this thread a sob story about me. It just touched me so I responded with my thoughts.
Hugs to all
Awe sister (((()))) I can't imagine. Please know I'll be praying for you Thanks for sharing your story, once again I'm so sorry.
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They may mention Jesus a couple times a year at best and when the GB does they mutter it with such contempt i can almost see the venom coming from their mouths. Samuel Herd muttered the name Jesus in a 2021 assembly and he looked as if he was going to vomit. Satan and his minions hates Jesus. Jesus defeated Satan and will be the one to toss him into the abyss where he belongs...Jesus will take him out like the piece of vile trash he is!!!!
The WT have replaced Jesus as the one true channel to Jehovah. The ones to give life saving direction. The ones that will lead the way out of the GT. But the sheep will know who the true shepherd really is and not follow the hired man.
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JLC they all scare me to tell ya the truth. But I would like to get Sam in a corner look him square in the eyes and ask him JUST WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING. I KNOW AND YOU KNOW BETTER.
GO SOME WHERE AND SIT DOWN. The lives they have and still are affecting is almost unforgivable to me.
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Jehovahsloyalchild
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The blood on their hands and the betrayal to Jehovah and His son Jesus in unforgiveable especially since they will never repent. They are wicked and are satans seeds!!!!
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Do not fear them they are puppets and Jehovah is Almighty. When you have Jehovah on your side their is no reason to fear!!!!
Reminders are always good. Thanks so much.
Sundial
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I am so sorry for your loss, sister.
I totally agree with everything you said
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