Thursday Feb 15 - Death will be no more

BARNABY THE DOG. said:
The other item in my mind was the lack of insight into its meaning. Sure, we all know of the significance in the watchtower perfunctory manner - but to the degree of the anointed who actually experience these meanings but who were never invited for comment at any time, never able to explain or demonstrate their sense of inclusion and it’s meaning, silenced as “just ordinary people with a different hope” (as explained to us congregants), leaving the congregation without the benefit of their teaching, insight, hope and experience - and that was back in the 1970s.
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How true, Barnaby.
We have come to understand more about the anointed and their "calling" in the last six months than we learn in all the decades we spent in the organization. It has truly been an awakening as to the meaning and significance of their anointing. It's almost mind-boggling and we can be sure that we grasp only a fraction of what the experience really entails.
 
J&P said:
How true, Barnaby.
We have come to understand more about the anointed and their "calling" in the last six months than we learn in all the decades we spent in the organization. It has truly been an awakening as to the meaning and significance of their anointing. It's almost mind-boggling and we can be sure that we grasp only a fraction of what the experience really entails.
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Yes I agree. Watchtower has shut the mouths of those with something to say in our understanding the depth and gravity of the Word. The more I think on it, the more their loss to the congregation is evident.
 
I left the Kingdom Hall in 1999, but prayed that Jehovah would not leave me..I faithfully attended every memorial because I wanted the angels in heaven see where my heart was... not with the WT but with Jehovah's arrangement. After Covid kicked in, Meikiel and I celebrated together the best we could..Now , my sister and I spend the time reading the Bible. together and praying..every year for memorial.
 
Medi-tator said:
@SusanB : "Where should we sit today?" Meditator: "Let's just sit in our regular pew." Susan would laugh as would anyone nearby who heard that conversation.

Susan was way less mindless than I was. She participated by commenting regularly at the meetings, showed great care for the brotherhood in our hall and was very active in the field ministry until.... wait for it, the "lifting of the veil” as @BARNABY THE DOG stated in an above post. And while Susan suffered greatly for a solid two months of mourning over her personal awareness of her own "new light", I was delighted to know that eventually (which is now) I would not have to sit in that pew again and be mindless for those two hour lengths of time twice per week.

On the other hand, I so look forward to being able to worship in spirit and truth and sing songs of beauty together again in groups of many, many, many, but for now, The Memorial is all we can muster for in person "meetings". I wonder if we will sit in our old familiar pew this coming March 24.
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Speaking of the memorial I just came across this. According to the Jewish calendar Nisan 14 is April 22 not March 24. Am I missing something on the 2024 Memorial date?
 

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Yeah last year was only a day or 2 off from what I remember. What the heck is with this year though? Usually Easter is the Sunday after passover isn't it? Easter this year is March 31. Who is messed up, the Jews or everybody else?

Just looked it up, everything online says Nisan 14 is April 22.
 
Patricia said:
Yeah last year was only a day or 2 off from what I remember. What the heck is with this year though? Usually Easter is the Sunday after passover isn't it? Easter this year is March 31. Who is messed up, the Jews or everybody else?

Just looked it up, everything online says Nisan 14 is April 22.
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Nosotros en casa lo conmemoramos el día 14 de Nisan, buscando en diversos sitios de calendarios judios. No coincidía con la de la WT. También busqué cuando lo conmemoraron desde un año en concreto hasta ahora. Veré si lo encuentro...
 
EJWAdmin said:
The Passover is determined by the first full moon after the Spring equinox. I just checked the lunar phase calendar and the first full moon after Spring in 2024 is March 25th.
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Exacto, así lo hemos hecho en casa desde que nos dimos cuenta que las WT usaba unas fechas que no sabíamos de donde las sacaban. Es justo en la primera luna llena, en Pascua.
 
EJWAdmin said:
The Passover is determined by the first full moon after the Spring equinox. I just checked the lunar phase calendar and the first full moon after Spring in 2024 is March 25th.
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I have seen different information. Weird...
www.almanac.com

Passover 2024: When Does Passover Start?

Passover begins at sundown on Monday, April 22, 2024. What does this annual holiday celebrate? Learn about Passover's meaning and find traditional recipes, including charoset and beef brisket.
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Then again, just follow 1 Corinthians 11:26 "For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes." Often means many times or frequently. Problem solved. I'm guessing they didn't eat bread once a year or drink wine once a year. But that's clearly a guess. Whereas the scripture is, well, scripture.
 
Watchman said:
The moon don't lie
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Indeed, the moon is more than just a celestial body. We may understand the effect the moon has on us here living on earth. The moon gives us light at night, causes the tides, and some even say it affects our moods too. Maybe other things that we haven't discovered yet. When we look at the moon, which we can do with our natural eye, unlike the Sun, we can see beyond the physical presence and see the symbolic meaning. The future hope for all mankind, the kingdom, shining for us every night. The promise of the resurrection and the hope of peace and security is there for us to see in the night sky. A future hope of life that will never come to an end, just like the moon itself.
 
Still Here said:
Then again, just follow 1 Corinthians 11:26 "For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes." Often means many times or frequently. Problem solved. I'm guessing they didn't eat bread once a year or drink wine once a year. But that's clearly a guess. Whereas the scripture is, well, scripture.
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Substitute "as often as" with "whatever rate of frequency" and you get the real meaning of that phrase which includes the word "often".
 
PJ54 said:
Even Google states it's April. This is just confusing.....
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I read something about that --with the Jewish calendar they have two leap years every 19 years and that something with the calendar got messed up in the 4th century and so in the leap year the passover is thrown off. I didn't really understand it but apparently the Sanhedrin used to adjust the calendar as necessary for making up the extra days but there's no Sanhedrin now so they adopted this leap year plan. So the Jews are celebrating passover in April this year. On their calendar April 22 is Nisan 14. Go figure🤷‍♀️
 
Medi-tator said:
Substitute "as often as" with "whatever rate of frequency" and you get the real meaning of that phrase which includes the word "often".
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I thank you for the reference. I found this image.
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The greek word for often in this verse was only used 3 times that I can find. Twice here in verses 25 and 26. The third time is in Rev. 11:6 in regard to the two witnesses. Looking at the 2 circumstances, I would think the timing for both is due to spontaneous, outside influences. From the chart, I would put yearly between10 and 30 percent. I would put often between weekly and monthly. But that's just my opinon on frequency rates.
 
Melinda said:
Speaking of the memorial I just came across this. According to the Jewish calendar Nisan 14 is April 22 not March 24. Am I missing something on the 2024 Memorial date?
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They changed the beginning of the seasons to meteorological seasons. At least here in the Netherlands.
Spring used to start on March 21, but now starts sometime in late February. It could have something to do with that.
Summer on June 21 and now the end of May; autumn September 21st and now late August and winter December 21st and now sometime late November.
Could it have something to do with the location of Israel??
 
evw said:
They changed the beginning of the seasons to meteorological seasons. At least here in the Netherlands.
Spring used to start on March 21, but now starts sometime in late February. It could have something to do with that.
Summer on June 21 and now the end of May; autumn September 21st and now late August and winter December 21st and now sometime late November.
Could it have something to do with the location of Israel??
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Well it stands to reason in this day and age. If a man can think he is a woman and thus become one, then why cannot winter identify as Spring, or Autumn as Summer. I’m booking my summer holiday for January the 21st next year. Sure to be the hottest day of the year. I have already booked myself into the Florence Supermax Prison in Colorado and which is identifying as a five star hotel for the season. I have a private room, en-suit, all my meals served personally at my door and my own walking area with a lovely view of the sky…..and it’s FREE!
 
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