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Steak?!... Actually, the eating of meat in this religion stumbled me. What about the "sanctity of life", and future vision to "live in harmony with the animals"? Why not personally enact jehovah's loving arrangement now that we have the opportunity to eat a plethora of fruits, vegetables, and grains at our fingertips? The average R&F JW answer is because Jah allowed it after the flood- with zero deeper thinking on how unique our situation is today on the ability to make compassionate food choices.
A definition of religion in part says: ..."the pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance", and in your case your personal religious interpretation requires a rewriting of the rulings permitted Christ's followers. Nobody can say with certainty when and how new dietary restrictions will be reinstated under Christ's rule or what they may even be. You are free to eat anything you like, but not to judge the rest.
 
A definition of religion in part says: ..."the pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance", and in your case your personal religious interpretation requires a rewriting of the rulings permitted Christ's followers. Nobody can say with certainty when and how new dietary restrictions will be reinstated under Christ's rule or what they may even be. You are free to eat anything you like, but not to judge the rest.
If you allow love to dictate your actions and believe in the sanctity of life, one doesn't kill unnecessarily. It has nothing to do with dietary restrictions- killing for fur when there is a warm cotton blanket next to you to provide warmth is the same thing. Waiting to reinstate a change of behavior until "Christ's rule" seems to follow the letter of the law vs the spirit of love
 
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If you allow love to dictate your actions and believe in the sanctity of life, one doesn't kill unnecessarily. It has nothing to do with dietary restrictions- killing for fur when there is a warm cotton blanket next to you to provide warmth is the same thing. Waiting to reinstate a change of behavior until "Christ's rule" seems to follow the letter of the law vs the spirit of love
I agree about the fur but it's tough and expensive to live a healthy life without meat. I too look forward to a time where we don't kill our fellow furry friends for food, but for now at least, Jehovah has said it's OK. He knows more than we do so I'll take his word for it.

An interesting and amusing experience: I remember sitting in a food court during a coffee break in service and I was with two rather holier-than-thou couples. The sisters were bragging about how they were vegetarians and how terrible it was to eat meat. I looked at their plates and one was eating chicken and one was eating fish. :LOL:

So some people are vegetarians........and some people are vegetarians. ;)

Jehovah will remove the allowance to eat meat in due time.
 
I agree about the fur but it's tough and expensive to live a healthy life without meat. I too look forward to a time where we don't kill our fellow furry friends for food, but for now at least, Jehovah has said it's OK. He knows more than we do so I'll take his word for it.

An interesting and amusing experience: I remember sitting in a food court during a coffee break in service and I was with two rather holier-than-thou couples. The sisters were bragging about how they were vegetarians and how terrible it was to eat meat. I looked at their plates and one was eating chicken and one was eating fish. :LOL:

So some people are vegetarians........and some people are vegetarians. ;)

Jehovah will remove the allowance to eat meat in due time.
It's really not that tough to not eat meat for most of us living in 'westernized' countries - I made the switch about 9 years ago. It has actually 'broadened' my pallet in terms of creative spices and marinades! And it is a cost savings in that if you buy quality meat that is raised humanely it is MUCH more expensive. Cheap meat is typically full of hormones (to make them grow faster), antibiotics (to offset disease by living in such tight spaces) - which is also much more unhealthy for the consumer. I'll argue strongly against that Jehovah has said it's "okay" to treat animals the way big AG currently does in present time. Equipped with the knowledge of these practices, how is it acting out of love to contribute?
 
If you allow love to dictate your actions and believe in the sanctity of life, one doesn't kill unnecessarily. It has nothing to do with dietary restrictions- killing for fur when there is a warm cotton blanket next to you to provide warmth is the same thing. Waiting to reinstate a change of behavior until "Christ's rule" seems to follow the letter of the law vs the spirit of love
Awesome comment, for a lot of reasons. Even Ted Nugent who is a bow hunting enthusiast has clearly said that if you want to eat meat, something has to die and that is no small thing. More or less what he said. Nugent is not known for indiscriminate killing for sport but he does hunt for food.
An elder told me years ago something which I already knew. Whatever we had in Eden will resemble what we have in paradise. He didn't say it in those words. I shined it up a bit with my own words. He pointed to Noah being the first God-approved meat eater and then took me to the lion laying with the lamb and a few others and asked me, how can we have a peaceable kingdom if we're killing animals. I don't mean to insult anyone's personal interpretations but facts is facts. God made allowances for meat, just like he did for divorce.
Prove me wrong, but do it with scripture.
 
It's really not that tough to not eat meat for most of us living in 'westernized' countries - I made the switch about 9 years ago. It has actually 'broadened' my pallet in terms of creative spices and marinades! And it is a cost savings in that if you buy quality meat that is raised humanely it is MUCH more expensive. Cheap meat is typically full of hormones (to make them grow faster), antibiotics (to offset disease by living in such tight spaces) - which is also much more unhealthy for the consumer. I'll argue strongly against that Jehovah has said it's "okay" to treat animals the way big AG currently does in present time. Equipped with the knowledge of these practices, how is it acting out of love to contribute?

@robins I totally understand your feelings. As fellow vegetarians for over 15 years (don’t you just hate it when a vegetarian has to inform you of that like it’s a badge 😆) we have been keen on what goes on our plates and how it got there. Over the years we have done the gamut from vegetarian, vegan, raw vegan, gluten free, and on and on! We were the ones in the hall no one wanted to invite over because they didn’t know what to cook for us! 🙈 We made these choices for our own health and never judged others for what they would eat although many would act strange about it. I could do a whole post on what we’ve seen on how the Standard American Diet S.A.D. Is doing to peoples health - it’s the big killer no one wants to talk about. We now fit more middle of the road on our diet. We still don’t eat meat 🥩 but my husband still has seafood and I love my cheese 🧀! The saddest years of my life were when I broke up with cheese 🧀😆! Sure you can survive just fine but I hated every day of it! My husband even commented on how good a steak 🥩 smelled cooking the other day. I wouldn’t have any objections if he did, at this point we’ve got much bigger things to worry about and I’ve come down to the discovery that there is one common factor ruining our health, again another post for that. There are humane ways to eat all foods and I pray we all move towards that. Anyway that’s my little veg 🌱 thoughts as if anyone cares what we eat! 😆😆
 
I'll argue strongly against that Jehovah has said it's "okay" to treat animals the way big AG currently does in present time. Equipped with the knowledge of these practices, how is it acting out of love to contribute?
You could go out of the city and buy your meat from local farmers. It would be good for the farmers and good for the consumers and you'd leave big ag out of it. A workmate has several family members that run farms. He gets his beef from them. He knows they're treated right and taken care of. They don't use hormones or antibiotics.

I can tell you that the only time the animals suffer is during the winter. They have to stand outside in -30C weather occasionally. They make sure they have heated water and silage. They love the silage and get treated better than the wild animals in the area. Some farmers build wind breaks for their animals.

In any case, we eat too much meat when we eat it. A plate should have mostly vegetables, some carbs and a portion of meat the size of a deck of cards. And you really only need the meat at one meal, unless you're a body builder or working really hard outside.

I'm glad you can do the vegan or vegetarian life. I can't at this time but have thought of it. Perhaps with a stable job and a bit of education I'll be able to join you soon. If not soon, in God's promised paradise...
 
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