Who is PIMO?

[Niobium]

How do you find out if anyone in your congregation or in a wider field, maybe your circuit, is PIMO? Short of asking straight out I haven't been able to come up with a relatively "safe" way of finding out. If I bring up certain "controversial" topics in conversation that might lead onto seeing what that person thinks, carefully of course, in most cases they change the subject or start looking uncomfortable, so I don't pursue that line with them anymore. They tend to avoid being led down that path again. I thought of putting "PIMO" on my convention badge, next to my name, and if anyone asks what it means, I can say " Pray Incessantly, Meditate Often" as a means of explaining why it is there. But it could lead to other things, so I'm not sure if it's a good idea. Anyway, just wondering if there has been any successful methods to try to establish who is in this category without rocking the boat too much. I did find out one Brother had PIMO tendencies and we used to meet at assemblies to chat over our concerns, but he was made an Elder and that put the kibosh on any further conversations, and he just kind of stopped having contact with me over time. It was too bad because I enjoyed talking with someone who shared my understanding of what was happening in the WT and it was encouraging to know that I was not alone. Since then I haven't really been able to find anyone willing to go that far. But certainly I have sensed PIMO tendencies in others, even though not confirmed.

 

[Seadog]

I did find out one Brother had PIMO tendencies and we used to meet at assemblies to chat over our concerns, but he was made an Elder and that put the kibosh on any further conversations, and he just kind of stopped having contact with me over time

Just shows how his conscience was bought with a little bit of authority and social standing. Hope he’s prepared for the beating with many strokes.

 

[Still Here]

I can't answer this from your perspective. I am on the other side. Been gone 20+ years. All my extended family (50 or more) are regular attenders (some pioneeers and servants) except 3. They know where I stand and I can have conversations with some and some completely ignore me. Their choice. I just have to watch how far I go with each one that will talk with me. I have friends that are servants. I have friends that aren't servants but enjoy talking with me because they are comfortable saying anything. So I guess my advice is to be patient with an open ear, use the new world translation as much as possible so as not to offend them and let them come to you. It's slow and ardous. Now when it comes to online, it's harder. New ones fading are suspect of 'being turned in'. Understandably so. There are times I have pushed a little too hard and I feel bad. But people react according to their makeup and experience. I am pretty sure the PIMO badge won't work out so well for you. The easiest way to address an issue is "I have a question. What do you think about...?" My 2 cents. Oh and don't give up on your friend. He is now going to be privy to so much more info, it might scare the ... out of him.
p.s. My wife and I are not disfellowshipped or disassociated.

 

[KingdomLeast]

I was PIMO before PIMO was a thing. Figured it out within a few short years and this was in the early 1980s. But I stayed because while I didn't like the congregation "politics", I still believed it was the truth. I was the level-headed one on the body and everyone liked me because I didn't judge. Towards the end, when the Lord called me in 1990 and told me to "get out of her", just before my exit I began to drop hints to certain friends, most of them gave me that strange, uncomfortable look, so I didn't push it. Seems most of the friends didn't minds trash talking what was happening in the congregation, but didn't talk about the Society and what they taught. It's pretty much a crap shoot, a trial by error. If you don't mind getting marked, take a chance. I was on my way out anyways so it didn't matter. I stayed for my wife and her family who were all witnesses. I stepped down and my wife and I walked away, that was around 1992. Never looked back. Just became inactive. The last congregation I was a part of was disbanded.

 

[Soul Sage]

You're either a lover of Jehovah or not. One can love Jehovah by getting baptized. Then there is love for the congregation and organization. Some don't care for that and prefer to being more independent. I don't personally like the term PIMO. Overall, I see it as something good to be a part of. But I can also understand they aren't perfect like they claim to be. For Jehovah blinds them to some things for a particular purpose. They based their judgement on beard wearing based on what the world thinks at the time not based on what Jehovah thinks. That's one example.

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

How do you find out if anyone in your congregation or in a wider field, maybe your circuit, is PIMO? Short of asking straight out I haven't been able to come up with a relatively "safe" way of finding out. If I bring up certain "controversial" topics in conversation that might lead onto seeing what that person thinks, carefully of course, in most cases they change the subject or start looking uncomfortable, so I don't pursue that line with them anymore. They tend to avoid being led down that path again. I thought of putting "PIMO" on my convention badge, next to my name, and if anyone asks what it means, I can say " Pray Incessantly, Meditate Often" as a means of explaining why it is there. But it could lead to other things, so I'm not sure if it's a good idea. Anyway, just wondering if there has been any successful methods to try to establish who is in this category without rocking the boat too much. I did find out one Brother had PIMO tendencies and we used to meet at assemblies to chat over our concerns, but he was made an Elder and that put the kibosh on any further conversations, and he just kind of stopped having contact with me over time. It was too bad because I enjoyed talking with someone who shared my understanding of what was happening in the WT and it was encouraging to know that I was not alone. Since then I haven't really been able to find anyone willing to go that far. But certainly I have sensed PIMO tendencies in others, even though not confirmed.

It depends upon what your motive is. Our endgame is always to leave. There must be a reason to leave otherwise the bible would not be so emphatic about our not being judged along with them. If I had my time over again, I would be questioning with others the issues relevant to the governing body and how these can possibly be acceptable to Jehovah. We are none of us going to win this fight. Vengeance belongs to Jehovah and so if we are going to leave, we may just as well make it part of our ministry to them. The agony of course is for those with family, but in my own experience, I have found that they make their own decision and not us. Personally, I have come to terms with the fact that I may well be last man standing in my family, but it’s hard for everyone not only to love others as we are encouraged to do, but to accept that they may prefer something else. One has to become numb to it, like many did in the last war here, treading over shattered bodies on the way to work after Fritz had been dropping bombs on us. It’s coming again, so it seems more relevant to think about our own exit and to accept that, and to try to take others with us if we can. If they love truth, they will ask us - if they know where we stand - just as you said, you feel it in others. Maybe they see it it in you. Maybe it’s harvest time!

 

[barry]

How do you find out if anyone in your congregation or in a wider field, maybe your circuit, is PIMO? Short of asking straight out I haven't been able to come up with a relatively "safe" way of finding out. If I bring up certain "controversial" topics in conversation that might lead onto seeing what that person thinks, carefully of course, in most cases they change the subject or start looking uncomfortable, so I don't pursue that line with them anymore. They tend to avoid being led down that path again. I thought of putting "PIMO" on my convention badge, next to my name, and if anyone asks what it means, I can say " Pray Incessantly, Meditate Often" as a means of explaining why it is there. But it could lead to other things, so I'm not sure if it's a good idea. Anyway, just wondering if there has been any successful methods to try to establish who is in this category without rocking the boat too much. I did find out one Brother had PIMO tendencies and we used to meet at assemblies to chat over our concerns, but he was made an Elder and that put the kibosh on any further conversations, and he just kind of stopped having contact with me over time. It was too bad because I enjoyed talking with someone who shared my understanding of what was happening in the WT and it was encouraging to know that I was not alone. Since then I haven't really been able to find anyone willing to go that far. But certainly I have sensed PIMO tendencies in others, even though not confirmed.

I'm having the same issues. Being a PIMO for such a long time, it would be nice to be able to meet others in person. I've tried similar approaches by touching on some specific topics hoping someone would react in a kind of 'PIMO' way, but up to now without any results.
In the roughly 20 years of being PIMO, I haven't met anyone in person yet.

 

[Ana]

I'm having the same issues. Being a PIMO for such a long time, it would be nice to be able to meet others in person. I've tried similar approaches by touching on some specific topics hoping someone would react in a kind of 'PIMO' way, but up to now without any results.
In the roughly 20 years of being PIMO, I haven't met anyone in person yet.

A estas alturas pienso que solo la venida de Jesús hará posible esto. En definitiva es Jehová quién conoce a sus ovejas. Ya nos lo dice Ezequiel 34:11-16. Y pensándolo bien, prefiero que sea así. Será el quién las junte. Después de tantos años esparcidos y solos, que me busque Jehová será la mejor recompensa que podría tener. Tanta soledad habrá merecido la pena y consigo responder a su persona. Así que esperaremos pacientes y agradecidos a ese poco de espíritu santo que dé a toda clase ce carne.

 

[KingdomLeast]

Towards the end of my time with the Witnesses, I had one friend who knew that I was "Watchtower Woke", having amassed a huge library of older publications, I shared with him the things I was learning and showed him. He would call me or visit just to talk and learn what I was learning. He stayed behind, after I left, all of his immediate family (mother, sisters, cousins) were all witnesses, and he needed the stability. If he left, he would eventually go back into the world and do God knows what. Funny, he got married to a very controlling woman, and she "beat" him intyo submission and she forbade him from ever talking to me

 

[kirmmy]

A estas alturas pienso que solo la venida de Jesús hará posible esto. En definitiva es Jehová quién conoce a sus ovejas. Ya nos lo dice Ezequiel 34:11-16. Y pensándolo bien, prefiero que sea así. Será el quién las junte. Después de tantos años esparcidos y solos, que me busque Jehová será la mejor recompensa que podría tener. Tanta soledad habrá merecido la pena y consigo responder a su persona. Así que esperaremos pacientes y agradecidos a ese poco de espíritu santo que dé a toda clase ce carne.

Translation:

At this point I think that only the coming of Jesus will make this possible. Ultimately it is Jehovah who knows his sheep. Ezekiel 34: 11-16 already tells us. And on second thought, I'd rather it be so. It will be the one who puts them together. After so many years scattered and alone, Jehovah seeking me will be the best reward I could have. So much loneliness will have been worth it and I manage to respond to him. So we will wait patiently and grateful for that little holy spirit that gives all kinds of meat.