StillA_WorshiperOfJah
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Why do the Evangelicals insist the Great Tribulation will be 7 years?
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Over the years I have asked evangelicals that very question and they didn't have any thoughts. So, I just googled it. Turns out they take the one "week" out of the 70 weeks of years prophecy in Daniel. And if you thought the WT had prophecy all messed up, Evangelicals are totally clueless.
PJ54
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Because they tend to make the mistake Charles Russel made. Find a scripture & applying the eisegesis method of interpretation. Consider Harold Camping, who thought the rapture would take place on May 21, 2011 and that the end of the world would subsequently take place five months later on October 21, 2011. It failed & life went on. While your at it take a look at the list of all the failed predictions & the ones that are "to come".
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List of dates predicted for apocalyptic events - Wikipedia
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w_stone
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Just a thought There are different Prophetic time Periods.Of course there is the 42 months, that start at the beginning of Christs Revelation(3 1/2 years).And ends with the abyss of the devil. But also there are also different time periods that lead up to different events.Like the 2300/eveing and morning of Daniel Chapter 8.It says that is when the Kingdom is bought to it right condition.This happens when the devil is removed from heaven Another time period is the 1335 .It says in Dan 12.happy is he who keeps in expectation.Of what? What we are hoping for, is the Revelation of the Christ.This starts the 42 month period. So these period are different marker to different events.
BagdadBill
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First time I heard of Camping, I was on a long drive home at night and nowhere any FM nearby. That man sure loved his hellfire and eternal damnation.Because they tend to make the mistake Charles Russel made. Find a scripture & applying the eisegesis method of interpretation. Consider Harold Camping, who thought the rapture would take place on May 21, 2011 and that the end of the world would subsequently take place five months later on October 21, 2011. It failed & life went on. While your at it take a look at the list of all the failed predictions & the ones that are "to come".
List of dates predicted for apocalyptic events - Wikipedia
PJ54
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I swear there has to be some kind of sublime schadenfreude the born-agains experience when it comes to the damnation of the sinners. Take Jonathan Edwards quote from his sermon The Eternity of Hell's Torments:
It's preachers like this that have really shaped Protestantism & it shows. No wonder why Charles Russell felt ecstatic when he discovered the basic bible truths & tried to share them with fellow Protestants before severing the connection to Christendom completely.
kirmmy
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"When they see others, who were of the same nature and born under the same circumstances, plunged in such misery, and they so distinguished, O it will make them sensible how happy they are. A sense of the opposite misery, in all cases, greatly increases the relish of any joy or pleasure."
That guy is one seriously twisted individual. Must be a real blast at parties too.
PJ54
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The 18th century really had some interesting events & folks. It's been said that the Puritans he preached to would faint in terror of what was said in the sermons. Reminds me of Peter Ruckerman's sermon "The Laughter of God". They really think that God is just gushing to torment people even though it is written that God wants all to be reconciled with Him.
Sundial
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Sounds like Stockholm syndrome.
PJ54
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In a way it is. It's a please don't hurt me & I'll worship you. Satan is probably laughing about it due to his claim in Job's day where he said: "Skin in behalf of skin. A man will give everything on behalf of his soul."
My sister is a Born again Christian . They are very similar . They also believe that they will all be taken up to the third heaven , while all the ones left are destroyed , and all is made new . I thought the third heaven was something that was a vision .
The God Pill
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StillA_WorshiperOfJah
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Freemasons believe in 7 heavens
LuisMerino9412
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Hahahahahaha
White Stone
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Solomon’s throne has six steps of which the seventh is the place of the throne. If I remember correctly, the book of Enoch also mentioned of seven levels of heaven.
LuisMerino9412
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Maybe they are not so far from the truth. It might be just twisted lol because maybe the last days including all of its events might last 7 years... I just say perhaps because I'm not sure about it. But there were 7 days before the flood after Noah's ark was closed. We do not know the meaning of the 7 times mentioned in Daniel and they might refer to that. Not to mention the other periods of time that we find in Daniel 12. The number 7 in the Bible means completeness. Maybe the last days will last 7 biblical years.
We do know about the period that lasts three and a half years during the time of the end, but this only includes the reign of the beast and the witnessing of the chosen ones, but what about the war, famine, pestilences, the fall of the US and London, the Great tribulation itself, the 7 bowls of wrath, Armageddon and the destruction of Babylon the Great? All of that is outside the three and half years. Those terrible and frightening events, including the killing off of a quarter of mankind, then more people, as disturbing and horrendous as it sounds, takes some time. So, maybe, from Jesus' coronation in heaven until the beginning of the Millennium (including all the events we know that are going to happen) there could be a 7 years period. We do not know, but that could be a possibility.
We do know about the period that lasts three and a half years during the time of the end, but this only includes the reign of the beast and the witnessing of the chosen ones, but what about the war, famine, pestilences, the fall of the US and London, the Great tribulation itself, the 7 bowls of wrath, Armageddon and the destruction of Babylon the Great? All of that is outside the three and half years. Those terrible and frightening events, including the killing off of a quarter of mankind, then more people, as disturbing and horrendous as it sounds, takes some time. So, maybe, from Jesus' coronation in heaven until the beginning of the Millennium (including all the events we know that are going to happen) there could be a 7 years period. We do not know, but that could be a possibility.
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The God Pill
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Ascension of Isaiah and Apocalypse of Abraham claims 7, 2 Enoch 10, 3 Baruch 5 I don't remember 1 Enoch saying how many heavens there are. From a string theory pov 7 makes the most sense.
kenmuldoon55
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Wow, imagine the great tribulation lasting 3.5 years. Freezing and starving for 3 winters before the despot even begins his fun and games with us.
I just hope I vaporize in a nuclear blast.
Unfortunately I don’t think I live near any strategic military or command centers.
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I might humbly suggest your understanding of the timing of events are off
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kenmuldoon55
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I don’t believe it would be 3.5 years.Someone suggested that it would be that long and I was only highlighting how insane that would be.I might humbly suggest your understanding of the timing of events are off
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