I'm not the "the sharpest tool in the forum." so I cant comment meaningfully. And if Biblebug rhymes with Biblebum, well that's just a coincidence.
JEHOVAH'S NAME
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TheJehuChariot
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Ok, how the heck do you know how many times Jesus used his Father's name in public amongst his apostles, etc. When all the scrolls of the world couldn't contain the life of Christ. Look, I started to have respect for your knowledge, intellect and ability to engage in reasoning on this forum. But now youre just speaking foolishness in some attempt to be abstract and contentious on a matter you know better. I'm not sure if that's self serving and/or you're subtle attempt to cause dissension in this forum built to promote the Tetragrammaton. Moses (Even Pharoah) whom He made His name known to, Abraham, King David , etc etc would be laughing at your audacious insinuation one may not need to call on the Almighty in prayer. The very One whom Jesus directed be given attention to at Matthew 6:9,10. My patience is running thin with you. I'll tolerate a lot, but contending back n forth on the matter of God's name is elementary and spiritually infantile.
A wise man once said (showing love is The Way, and there can never be enough of that for God is love.)
Name calling, hum, maybe a slap can be loving? But "My patience is running thin with you". WOW.
The God Pill
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Agreed those loyal to Jehovah don't want any praise or excessive attention. Jubilees, Tobit and 1 Enoch all mention Raphael. There were three angels that visited Abraham to tell him he'd have Isaac after all. It's certainly sound for us to be like all non dysfunctional creation and direct all glory to out father Jehovah.
The God Pill
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I do like how over the past two decades gradually more people have tried to use God's name of whatever variation they think most accurate. It's an example of how our preaching work since 1879 has gradually made our doctrines like not being trinitarians more acceptable and common in the mainstream.
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Posstot
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How to know if Jesus used 'Jehovah' more frequently than 'Father' when He spoke off the biblical record, you ask?
Good question; I just assume the likelihood of pro rata.
There is no need to respect me; just check what I say and help me correct it when I am wrong, cheers.
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Posstot
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Please, this thread is for the purpose of bringing attention to and exaulting JEHOVAH'S NAME. If you have something valuable to contribute, please do so. Please be so kind as to refrain from contentious statements that detract, and stir things up and that take away or diminish the value of this topic. This isn't about US, it's about JEHOVAH.
Thank you kindly.
Jehovah's Name stands for love of truth and righteousness, and we can only honor Him by doing the same. Job 13:7,8; Ro 2:24
The God Pill
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Jehovah Sabaoth (Jehovah of armies/hosts) is nice as one of his titles since it includes his name
SusanB
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Beautiful
TheJehuChariot
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Very well, as you wish. I herefor correct you. You are wrong in your perception of "pro rata". Cheers.
SollaSollew
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Knowing God has a name and the importance of that name (whatever pronunciation you care to use depending on your language) is a high priority. There has been more than enough scriptures quoted in this thread to justify this conclusion but also satan has tirelessly extended much effort to exclude people from using God's name. He made sure the Jews never pronounced God's name based on the non-sensical logic of it being to holy to utter (that in itself demonstrates the satanic intent), then during the Christian era making sure it was excluded from the Bible. Why go to to such effort to hide God's name if it's of little or no importance?
The God Pill
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Obviously disagree with Clint's theology but I thought I'd post this video because after the introduction he uses a good chunk of a documentary on Jehovah's name that includes interviews of Rolf Furuli
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BagdadBill
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It is a privilege to even know the name Jehovah. I have an old King James which has the Tetragrammaton in four places. I didn't even know it until a sister showed me from my bible. Only a handful of churches teach anything about the name and even then, they don't give it the importance it should have.
JulioG
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I liked the three shared videos very much ... I was late to see them because I had to translate it ... the one that mentions that we have Jehovah's name in our DNA surprised me so I looked for more information and it is indeed true and I don't think it's a coincidence. ..I loved this documentary in particular ... after seeing something like that, only if you are against the true God would you say "who cares"
JulioG
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I love Jehovah's name ... when I first heard my children pronounce his divine and holy name I was so moved.
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Ach Tung
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At 2:50 to 3:40 you did an excellent job of showing JEHO and AH names, so why at 4:50 did you spell out the name with a V in it?
Shouldn't it be JeHOaH and not JeHOVaH?
It is JeHOshua, not JeHOVshua. Likewise, the same with all the other JEHO names, none contain the V.
יהוה (JHVH) (YHVH)
יהושע (JeHO-shua) (YeHO-shua)
יהוה (JHVH) (YHVH)
צפניה (Zephan-iaH) (Zephan-yaH)
Isaiah 12:2 Look! God is my salvation. I will trust and feel no dread; For Jah Jehoah is my strength and my might, And he has become my salvation.”
יה (JaH) (YaH)
יהוה (JeHOaH) (YeHOaH)
Y י
H ה
V ו (Placeholder for O or U)
H ה
| ו | Waw | [w], or placeholder for "O"/"U" vowel (see mater lectionis) |
| ו | Waw | Vav | ô, û | ō or ū |
Tetragrammaton - Wikipedia
Mater lectionis - Wikipedia
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RR144
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Well Antony does have a point. The Organization stresses the importance of using the name, but if we don't really know the correct pronunciation then it's irrelevant.
I remember being told from the stage that it's important to use the name in prayer because there are many gods, and if we just pray to "God" we might be praying to the wrong one.
As a child of the Father, I would think He knows I'm speaking to Him. since the Lord knows who are his.
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RR144
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I'm going assume you're referring to John 21:25 “And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.”
That verse is said to be spurious!
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RR144
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Interestingly, there is a whole movement under the umbrella SACRED NAME GROUPS that uses YAHWEH in their worship. Most have nothing to do with the JW's religion, but have similar basic beliefs, e.g. rejection trinity, hellfire, immortal soul, restored earth, etc.
Those among the SACRED NAME GROUPS, have differences among themselves as to the proper pronunciation. There was a group called Assemblies of Yah, Assemblies of Yahvah, Called out ones of Yah. There is even a group called Assembly of YHWHHOSHUA, a hybrid of Yahweh and Hoshua. One group uses the name Yahuwah. Then of course there is Stafford's group that uses the term Chjristian Witnesses of Jah.
There was an interestly group that WAS an offshoot of the Witnesses in 1942. It was started by C.H. Zook in Brooklyn, later in Leviitown, NU. They even had a branch in Vienna, Austria. They called themselves the Servants of Yah. He taught that Jehovah was the name of Satan and that God's true name is Yah. They believed in the 144,000 in heaven and the rest of mankind on paradise earth, other than that they deny Armageddon, the flood, water baptism, the ransom sacrifice, the existence of Satan as a real individual. They were universalist. Not sure how long they lasted. Probably as long as Zook led them. Usually, groups like these die off once the leader dies.
- Witnesses of Yahweh
- Congregation of Yahweh's Witnesses
- Assemblies of Yahweh
- Assembly of Yahweh
- House of Yahweh
- Restored Israel of Yahweh
Those among the SACRED NAME GROUPS, have differences among themselves as to the proper pronunciation. There was a group called Assemblies of Yah, Assemblies of Yahvah, Called out ones of Yah. There is even a group called Assembly of YHWHHOSHUA, a hybrid of Yahweh and Hoshua. One group uses the name Yahuwah. Then of course there is Stafford's group that uses the term Chjristian Witnesses of Jah.
There was an interestly group that WAS an offshoot of the Witnesses in 1942. It was started by C.H. Zook in Brooklyn, later in Leviitown, NU. They even had a branch in Vienna, Austria. They called themselves the Servants of Yah. He taught that Jehovah was the name of Satan and that God's true name is Yah. They believed in the 144,000 in heaven and the rest of mankind on paradise earth, other than that they deny Armageddon, the flood, water baptism, the ransom sacrifice, the existence of Satan as a real individual. They were universalist. Not sure how long they lasted. Probably as long as Zook led them. Usually, groups like these die off once the leader dies.
Interesting and well said.