Vaccines From Jehovah. AGM part 1.

Nomex said:
I think if anyone says anything to me about how great it is that the GB has pushed this vaccine, I'm just going to say. For something that is supposed to be a personal decision I think a lot of you don't know what that means. I'm also wondering if the vaccine doesn't protect you from unvaccinated people, what DOES it protect you from? By shunning unvaccinated people you admit you don't think this vaccine works.
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you’ll get blank stares. Like those female android twins from Star Trek that Captain Kirk shut down with cognitive dissonance.
 
Sarah said:
Quote from the article Robert ( @Watchman posted on the thread crimes against humanity
“You engineered and patented a gain-of-function virus at the same time you conspired with pharma companies to devise and patent pseudo-vaccines, and then you loosed both of them on the public. You didn’t just fail to adequately test the “vaccines” cooked up by Moderna, Pfizer, and Johnson & Johnson, but you deliberately botched the trials and lied about it. You created rich $$ incentives for hospitals to mis-treat Covid patients by failing to use known, safe, effective anti-virals. You conspired with social and news media to suppress information about those common anti-viral drugs that would have informed many patients’ decisions and saved thousands of lives”

This has Jehovah’s backing????
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i know, Sarah- it’s simply CRAZY. it’s nearly impossible to dislodge JWs from this and many other delusions they’re under.
 
Driven said:
I thought I had made the adjustment for this betrayal but after thinking about the Annual Meeting and how they show “Sophia” with the bandaid on her arm and how they are encouraging young people and children to get the vaccine, I started crying again last night. I could hardly sleep. They are harming innocent ones. They have truly become a synagogue (Kingdom Hall) of Satan. This is murder and those supporting it, even unintentionally, share some guilt as well. It’s like watching a slow motion train wreck and not being able to stop it.
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Sending you a big hug, Driven!💐🤗💐 This is one of the reasons that I don’t want to be associated any longer. I‘ve mentioned how I have an intense feeling of needing to be free! The leaders have sent the sheep to the slaughter and I can’t say anything about it. Actually I have said a few things because my conscience won’t allow me to say absolutely nothing. But even with the little that I’ve said to certain sisters, the Elders are trying to come “visit”😣 My husband doesn't want to burn bridges yet so we’re just keeping them at arms length. But I really feel for you!

As 4JahandChrist said in another post, we never saw this coming from within the org. It is such a horrific shock! This may be the first of a series of breakdowns as it all fully sinks in😓 An elder who texted my husband reminded him that there is nowhere else to go. I told my husband how much that irritated me; that’s what an abuser will say to their victim when they detect that the victim is wising up. Now I really don’t believe that our Elders of their own accord are malicious, but this is how they end up acting under the directions of the GB.

But I recalled the scripture that says that “where there are two or three gathered together, in my name, there I am in their midst” (Matt 18:20) May that scripture encourage us all as the lonely feelings creep in after we take our stand. It is really wonderful to see this forum grow day by day. It is well past 2 or 3 and is evidence that many are seeing what is happening; not all are falling for the deceptions. We can take encouragement in that and knowing that we can contribute to the upbuilding of others as they land here. I know many will agree in saying that you have upbuilt us. You are doing what you can. Hopefully you can find some solace in knowing that, dear Driven!😘
 
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The God Pill said:
About to start work but attended a field service meeting on zoom for a half hour and it was nearly all listening to two elderly sisters lauding the vaccine and gb and that it's a test for when we receive the illogical instructions in the future etc I tried to restrain myself a lot and while I reacted honestly I restrained myself a lot to give them time to express themselves and not be rude finally I couldn't take it anymore when I saw the one sisters anger was aroused and had been steadily the whole time and I simply logged out in the middle of her pro GB nonsense. I didn't say it but my thought was I don't need to be lectured by non red pilled brothers and sisters that don't read 20,000 word patents on this technology. I even mentioned my sister took the jab and that's her own business to show just because id rather be sawed in half like Isaiah than take it doesn't mean I judge most who do.
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What do you think it’s going to take to wake these people up? Because it’s coming. Of course Robert is correct when he’s says many won’t wake up before Armegeddon forces them out of their stuper.

It’s just mind boggling that they don’t take even the simplest approach to research for their own good and the good of their children.
 
Nomex said:
I have given so much thought to the ability of people in the world to be deceived. When you take the first lie Satan ever told, "You positively will not die" and to this day everyone except Jehovah's Witnesses believe that very lie, that you really do not die because we have an immortal soul. No matter what you told all most all people who believe that lie, even showing them evidence from the Bible they still will not have their "deeply entrenched belief over turned". The same thing is true here. And it is made worse by the fact that we have learned so many truths brought to us by "Jehovah's Organization." But is it really that hard to believe that even God's organization can deceive us when it is led by men who have the very same imperfections the Sadducee' and Pharisee's had? Was the Jewish system NOT Jehovah's Organization? Were not ALL the truths they knew come from the Jewish system? But behold is not the "heart treacherous above all else?" So what does that mean? It means that our ability to be deceived is directly in proportion to our ability to be humble. We refuse to admit we are deceived because of our pride. It takes incredible humility to admit we have been deceived, so how much more so would it take to admit you have been wrong about something, and therefore deceived someone based on that wrong understanding. (Let alone an entire "nation" of God's people the way the GB have decieved themselves and God's sheep.) Incidentally, we belong to Jehovah and Christ NOT unsealed imperfect men who it is impossible for them NOT to make mistakes. Another lie by the implication of "this is Jehovah's channel" and complete LACK of humility!

I have been re-evaluating what that scripture means where Jesus said, "you will know my disciples if you have LOVE among yourselves." Jesus disciples were all Jews at the time, and they had not changed religions by following Christ. They were expecting him and expecting the messiah to be a Jew, rightly so. That was the promise Jehovah made Abraham. So what does it mean to be Christ's followers? First and foremost love. Is judging our brothers love? This newest vaccine garbage and the treatment of those of us who see this betrayal as the last straw is really just another in a long list of judgements Jehovah's Witnesses so cavalierly display. A few years back a friend of mine had a relative die who was disfellowshiped. I mentioned this to an elder and he indicated she would NOT be resurrected because she was disfellowshipped when she died. Is that loving? Certainly not. Would you want that brother "to pour oil on your head"? NO! How wide spread is this attitude among the elders? Too widespread!

Bottom line the most serious problem in the congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses is humility and love, it really boils down to those two things!
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Excellent analysis, although you are being extremely charitable when you charge the GB with the 'same imperfections the Sadducees and Pharisees had,' because it would be hard to read Jesus as judging people 'liable to Gehenna' merely for their imperfections.

Spiritual pride is the worst kind, because unlike the materialistic variety, it cloaks itself in an extra layer of virtue and holiness, but which amounts to no more than a distinction without a difference to the profane version.

Love of truth and God's righteousness are the things that lets these people down, and potentially us as well, if we don't watch it. 2 Thes 2:10; Ro 10:3
 
Asadour said:
What do you think it’s going to take to wake these people up? Because it’s coming. Of course Robert is correct when he’s says many won’t wake up before Armegeddon forces them out of their stuper.

It’s just mind boggling that they don’t take even the simplest approach to research for their own good and the good of their children.
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People dropping dead beside them perhaps or torment from locust or the genuine annointed empowered as the two witnesses performing miracles.
 
Driven said:
I thought I had made the adjustment for this betrayal but after thinking about the Annual Meeting and how they show “Sophia” with the bandaid on her arm and how they are encouraging young people and children to get the vaccine, I started crying again last night. I could hardly sleep. They are harming innocent ones. They have truly become a synagogue (Kingdom Hall) of Satan. This is murder and those supporting it, even unintentionally, share some guilt as well. It’s like watching a slow motion train wreck and not being able to stop it.
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Me too Driven. it’s just heartbreaking isn’t it. And yea they have become the synagogue of Satan. It’s just horrifying.
 
4JahandChrist said:
Along a similar line. I caught myself saying the other day "Oh well. My life aint exactly Roses and Chocolates...if I get the Jab and die....so what? Back for another tilt in the Resurrection and I'm out of this Cesspool "

Then I quickly rechecked myself and realized that I was not taking the Jab based on principle. There clearly is a Fraud going on. I cannot put Jehovah to the test by willfully putting something into my body that could not only harm me, but potentially alter my Chemistry in ways that I do not fully understand.

For me it's like Satan offering out the fruit. Would Jehovah want me to race into a medical experiment just so I can escape a bit of hardship? I picture myself rolling up my sleeve for the needle and I feel ill. I can't do it. Unless they come up with some major change to their current convoluted dialogue I'm going to have to stay put.
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I wonder how many have considered this very same dilemma? I had to chuckle when I read BagdadBill’s post. The same thought had briefly crossed my mind as well. A slight feeling of jealousy arose in me, at one point, for those who had died from the jab and escaped this hellhole early. However, Jehovah is very aware of all the ways we are tempted and will no doubt overabundantly make it up for all who have stood their ground based on principle and for his name’s sake!
 
4JahandChrist said:
Then I quickly rechecked myself and realized that I was not taking the Jab based on principle. There clearly is a Fraud going on. I cannot put Jehovah to the test by willfully putting something into my body that could not only harm me, but potentially alter my Chemistry in ways that I do not fully understand.
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That’s a really good point, 4Jah, something i hadn’t considered. I’m so glad you’re here- we all need each other to share such important ideas and wisdom.
 
Asadour said:
That’s a really good point, 4Jah, something i hadn’t considered. I’m so glad you’re here- we all need each other to share such important ideas and wisdom.
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Thanks Kimmy. I'm glad you're here
too. It's always fun to get up the in the morning and see the US and UK contingent have been burning the Candle at both ends whilst I've been battling Dragons and Demons in the land of Nod. 😴
 
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Nomex said:
I have given so much thought to the ability of people in the world to be deceived. When you take the first lie Satan ever told, "You positively will not die" and to this day everyone except Jehovah's Witnesses believe that very lie, that you really do not die because we have an immortal soul. No matter what you told all most all people who believe that lie, even showing them evidence from the Bible they still will not have their "deeply entrenched belief over turned". The same thing is true here. And it is made worse by the fact that we have learned so many truths brought to us by "Jehovah's Organization." But is it really that hard to believe that even God's organization can deceive us when it is led by men who have the very same imperfections the Sadducee' and Pharisee's had? Was the Jewish system NOT Jehovah's Organization? Were not ALL the truths they knew come from the Jewish system? But behold is not the "heart treacherous above all else?" So what does that mean? It means that our ability to be deceived is directly in proportion to our ability to be humble. We refuse to admit we are deceived because of our pride. It takes incredible humility to admit we have been deceived, so how much more so would it take to admit you have been wrong about something, and therefore deceived someone based on that wrong understanding. (Let alone an entire "nation" of God's people the way the GB have decieved themselves and God's sheep.) Incidentally, we belong to Jehovah and Christ NOT unsealed imperfect men who it is impossible for them NOT to make mistakes. Another lie by the implication of "this is Jehovah's channel" and complete LACK of humility!

I have been re-evaluating what that scripture means where Jesus said, "you will know my disciples if you have LOVE among yourselves." Jesus disciples were all Jews at the time, and they had not changed religions by following Christ. They were expecting him and expecting the messiah to be a Jew, rightly so. That was the promise Jehovah made Abraham. So what does it mean to be Christ's followers? First and foremost love. Is judging our brothers love? This newest vaccine garbage and the treatment of those of us who see this betrayal as the last straw is really just another in a long list of judgements Jehovah's Witnesses so cavalierly display. A few years back a friend of mine had a relative die who was disfellowshiped. I mentioned this to an elder and he indicated she would NOT be resurrected because she was disfellowshipped when she died. Is that loving? Certainly not. Would you want that brother "to pour oil on your head"? NO! How wide spread is this attitude among the elders? Too widespread!

Bottom line the most serious problem in the congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses is humility and love, it really boils down to those two things!
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Cracking good post Nomex. So insightful and encouraging. 👍👌
 
4JahandChrist said:
Thanks Kimmy. I'm glad you're hear too. It's always fun to get up the in the morning and see the US and UK contingent have been burning the Candle at both ends whilst I've been battling Dragons and Demons in the land of Nod. 😴
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haha. oh hella for sure.

speaking of the land of Nod, i am on chapter eight of Robert’s book, and it’s like a sleep aid to me- not that’s is boring, oh no. but that it’s the only thing that’s not a pill that relieves my anxiety to where i can finally nod off and get some sweet sleep. The truth has that effect.
 
Someone sent me a WT letter that had been sent out to the branch admitting that the vaccines are ineffective against variants and yet they are still recommending the booster. If vaccines were truly a gift from Jehovah shouldn't we expect them to protect us from falling ill? :(

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Watchman said:
Someone sent me a WT letter that had been sent out to the branch admitting that the vaccines are ineffective against variants and yet they are still recommending the booster. If vaccines were truly a gift from Jehovah shouldn't we expect them to protect us from falling ill? :(

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For Special Full Time Servants in some “Field”
paragraph 1) vaccine failure, vaccine adverse reaction = not a vaccine, curtail activity even though curtailing activity shows no efficacy = Lord Fauci has no special insight for those who wish to remain in the Land of the Living;

paragraph 2) More of the same ineffectual Lord Fauci protocol;

For Elders

paragraph 1) rinse repeat more nonsense + ♾.
 
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