Would you like to be anointed?

Joel said:
There is nothing wrong with the question! Some brothers or sisters just honestly would like to be close to Jehovah God, their heavenly Father and to Jesus Christ! But we need to remember, that it is Jehovah God that makes the choosing and inviting. But he is not going to force us to accept the invitation, because he respects out free will! But he might send us an “invitation” (Matthew 28:19), That verse is saying in other words: “Go, make anointed for me…”. How does he do it? First through the anointed brothers or sisters and after with his spirit. For example, Romans 8:14: “For all who are led by God’s spirit are indeed God’s sons.” So, if you enjoy daily the prayers and considering the scriptures, witnessing and having a spiritual conversation, and all kinds of theocratic activities, and being happy and his spirit helps you to overcome all difficulties and you retain the happiness and tranquility and continue in that course daily…However, you must remember the part in the model prayer: “Let your will be done”! In other words, Jehovah knows what is best for all of us! Some have developed very close relationships with their marriage mate, with the family members and friends and like to have them forever! For others, it is up to them to accept the “invitation” from Jehovah, if they receive one. How do they do it? By partaking at the Memorial! And even after that when they examine themselves to see if they retain that happy spirit, love, and calmness of relationship with Jehovah continually, it will be an indication that Jehovah is happy with our accepting his invitation…
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Interesting question. How could anyone choose, appreciate, desire a life in an unimaginable realm? How does one even know they are anointed? The act of anointing would in its very essence be a life changing insight. One can neither imagine it or properly crave such an investiture about a state of being of such exclusivity. It must in its very title, be an assured expectation that one would die for rather than relinquish, and indeed must! Anointing must also be felt as something completely alien to the person‘s life experience. Something never experienced before, for the simple reason that we are not born with it, have no desire for it, no insight into it and no way of recognising within ourselves, or the need for it. It is simply outside of the human experience. It is, in short, a gift brought about through the institution of the promise and which was an outcome made true by the fall of man in the beginning. It truly is, a gift from Jehovah.
The very act of desiring it, is built only upon the sand of human emotion. We want it because we think it exists and can only be the ultimate fulfilment and enjoyment in life. It begs the question, ‘What is the fulfilment of life?’
Fulfilment is what it says it is. Clearly an earthly fulfilment is different in physical terms but no less spiritual as it is Jehovah's creation. It is no less than a heavenly one, because both spirit and flesh each have their fulfilment, and neither is it attained through spirit, more than it is in flesh, because life itself does not have limitations in its experience of fulfilment of Jehovah’s purpose. Does it? No. It does not. The values of perfection in both spirit and flesh have in themselves, the fulfilment, not that we seek, but in what is given us to fulfil. Were that not the case, then why did those angels desire what Jehovah had made in the shape of man and women?
This means then, that desire is not part of the equation of spiritual life insofar as our desires are experienced. It is in fact, who we are. Thus the scripture, “many are called, few are chosen”. The bible does not say (I think) that those whom do not get chosen, are necessarily bad, simply that they were unable to see past themselves. Thus we see it is neither a desire to serve in heaven, but of our use of self in serving Jehovah in any sphere. And that can be made true in heaven, also upon earth.
 
BARNABY THE DOG. said:
Interesting question. How could anyone choose, appreciate, desire a life in an unimaginable realm? How does one even know they are anointed? The act of anointing would in its very essence be a life changing insight. One can neither imagine it or properly crave such an investiture about a state of being of such exclusivity. It must in its very title, be an assured expectation that one would die for rather than relinquish, and indeed must! Anointing must also be felt as something completely alien to the person‘s life experience. Something never experienced before, for the simple reason that we are not born with it, have no desire for it, no insight into it and no way of recognising within ourselves, or the need for it. It is simply outside of the human experience. It is, in short, a gift brought about through the institution of the promise and which was an outcome made true by the fall of man in the beginning. It truly is, a gift from Jehovah.
The very act of desiring it, is built only upon the sand of human emotion. We want it because we think it exists and can only be the ultimate fulfilment and enjoyment in life. It begs the question, ‘What is the fulfilment of life?’
Fulfilment is what it says it is. Clearly an earthly fulfilment is different in physical terms but no less spiritual as it is Jehovah's creation. It is no less than a heavenly one, because both spirit and flesh each have their fulfilment, and neither is it attained through spirit, more than it is in flesh, because life itself does not have limitations in its experience of fulfilment of Jehovah’s purpose. Does it? No. It does not. The values of perfection in both spirit and flesh have in themselves, the fulfilment, not that we seek, but in what is given us to fulfil. Were that not the case, then why did those angels desire what Jehovah had made in the shape of man and women?
This means then, that desire is not part of the equation of spiritual life insofar as our desires are experienced. It is in fact, who we are. Thus the scripture, “many are called, few are chosen”. The bible does not say (I think) that those whom do not get chosen, are necessarily bad, simply that they were unable to see past themselves. Thus we see it is neither a desire to serve in heaven, but of our use of self in serving Jehovah in any sphere. And that can be made true in heaven, also upon earth.
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Thank you brother for your interesting comment! I appreciate it very much! Those are words that can and should encourage all to participate in a very instructive and so much more enlightening conversation that could benefit us all! As Einstein said: imagination is more important than knowledge!

"And you have an anointing from the holy one, and all of you have knowledge." - 1 John 2:20. Bible contains a number of examples that can give us insight into how that "unimaginable realm" exists, works, and benefits humans on Earth...as a matter of fact imagination is the great gift from Jehovah that can help us to imagine things in an invisible realm...:)
 
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Joel said:
Not to think about the future could mean for a person - there is no future...:)
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To some (mostly millennials & zoomers) that would be a relief.

(Ecclesiastes 6:1-7) 6 There is another tragedy that I have seen under the sun, and it is common among men: 2 The true God gives a man riches and material possessions and glory, so that he lacks nothing that he desires; yet the true God does not enable him to enjoy them, although a stranger may enjoy them. This is futility and a severe affliction. 3 If a man should become a father a hundred times and live for many years and reach old age, yet he does not enjoy his good things before he reaches the grave, I must say that a stillborn child is better off than he is. 4 For this one came in vain and went away in darkness, and his name is shrouded in darkness. 5 Even though he never saw the sun or knew anything, he is still better off than the former one. 6 What is the benefit of living a thousand years twice over but not experiencing enjoyment? Do not all go to the same place? 7 All the hard work of a man is to fill his mouth; yet his appetite is never satisfied.

It sounds rather shocking at first glance but if you read in the beginning it says "it is common among men". Now if that is the case (from what I'm reading from your reply) that the vast majority of people are like this thus, they should have never existed to begin with. Mind you this book Ecclesiastes was most likely by Solomon (the most wealthiest man besides Mansa Musa) who had it all and made Israel prosper that wrote the book. It's considered to be a rather blackpilling (grim awakening/partially nihilistic in some respects) book along with Jeremiah. I like the book due to how realistic it is along with the gospel of Luke (it's historical references).
 
Joel said:
Not to think about the future could mean for a person - there is no future...:)
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To be fair this world does beat the positivity out of you so it can warp your perception. The "carpe diem" approach that many take is rather empty in itself. Therefore, I can't rule out that the future is grimdark by nature since God knows us best & is greater than our hearts. ☺️
 
Not me. For sure. I like sleeping and eating too much. I asked my son Josh, and he brought up a bunch of concerns he'd have. He mainly said he didn't want to because of all the things he missed out on in this life. Paradise represents a clean slate for all of us, and it gives us an entire new world of endless potential. To have to give up our earthly life forever without having a chance to experience life the way Jehovah intended on earth wouldn't necessarily be the right thing for most people. Of course, it's a huge honor. The people God chooses will be happy. Even if we personally can't imagine what the heck a non physical existence would even look like.

I am sure however it works they will be happy and life will be fun and rewarding. Both groups will be content. The chosen ones just have a different destiny than most of us. God knows what he's doing. He undoubtedly takes everybody's situation into account in order to find the right people for the job. He knows who will be more fulfilled in one place over another. Nothing with Jehovah is unfair. Just because humans remain human doesn't mean humans will always be the same. Living in paradise conditions, with Jehovah's blessing, no telling what future heights humankind will ascend to. Eventually Jehovah will start creating again, too. Who knows what possibilities await?
 
BagdadBill said:
If the question is: Would I, if it were possible. No. First because I would accept whatever I'd gotten but personally, I love life on earth. I love life as a human I think that in the long run, it is a privilege that will be understood as unique and special among God's creation. For a time, we procreate. No other species beyond planet earth has ever had that divine gift. We are lesser than angels according to Jesus but even so, we are given gifts that make humans a special creation. To quote a book/movie "Mankind's purpose is to bring glory to God". Angels can fly or move about without strain as we would feel it. We on the other hand, can put in effort and work to gain basic things such as growing food or building homes. There is no satisfaction greater than having worked for what we have. That is not a comment against the angels for having superior abilities. It is rather a statement of appreciation of the gift of our place as given by Jehovah God. God loves effort and work. Maybe the key is in understanding our place and appreciating the unique placement we have. Satan rejected his place as did many angels. They wanted more than what was given them by their Creator.
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i think i would really like to be anointed. But i’m happy to help to comprise the great crowd too.
 
I wanted to live forever here on the earth, since I was 8 yrs old. My hope hasn't changed. Just need to do my best to catch the bus.
 
JulioG said:
The truth is that I would like an eternal earthly life... but I hope that guided excursions to heaven are also carried out from time to time 😁
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Hard to imagine that humans will be going on tours to heaven. But you never can tell, we haven't a clue as to the extent of what Jehovah can do?
 
JulioG said:
@Joel I really don't understand your question...😅
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"Jacob departed from Beʹer-sheʹba and kept going toward Haʹran. 11 In time he came to a place and prepared to spend the night there because the sun had set. So he took one of the stones of that place and set it to rest his head on and lay down there. 12 Then he had a dream, and look! there was a stairway set on the earth, and its top reached up to the heavens; and there were God’s angels ascending and descending on it. 13 And look! there was Jehovah stationed above it, and he said:" - Genesis 28:10-13. Angels served Jesus food after he did not eat for 40 days...and Jesus also said: "See that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I tell you that their angels in heaven always look upon the face of my Father who is in heaven..." Matthew 18:10....
 
a watcher said:
Jehovah INVITES people to become anointed. I guess you could say No, although I don't know anyone who's done that. I wonder if Jehovah would take No for an answer and allow someone to remain one of the other sheep?
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invitation is not imposition...that would be going against his own law of free will...otherwise he would not inspire apostle Paul to write to the anointed: "Make sure of all things..." - 1. Thessalonians 5:21.
 
Much of what has been written about anointed in both 2016 WT (both study articles in Jan) and in 2020 (again both study articles in Jan) I personally find repugnant! Consider this paragraph 15 from January 2016 pp. 17-21: "Perhaps you are wondering if you have received this wonderful invitation. If you think that you might have, ponder some important questions. Do you feel that you have more than average zeal in the ministry? Are you a keen student of God’s Word who loves to delve into “the deep things of God”? (1 Cor. 2:10) Have you seen Jehovah’s special blessing on your ministry? Do you have a burning desire to do Jehovah’s will? Do you have a deep inner feeling of responsibility to help others spiritually? Have you seen proof that Jehovah has personally intervened in your life? If you answer these questions with a resounding yes, does this mean that you now have the heavenly calling? No, it does not. Why not? Because these are not unique feelings experienced only by those who have the heavenly calling. Jehovah’s spirit works with equal force in those who have the hope of living forever on earth. In fact, if you are wondering whether you have received the heavenly calling, that would in itself indicate that you have not received it. Those called by Jehovah do not wonder whether they have been invited or not! They know!
 
Joel said:
Much of what has been written about anointed in both 2016 WT (both study articles in Jan) and in 2020 (again both study articles in Jan) I personally find repugnant! Consider this paragraph 15 from January 2016 pp. 17-21: "Perhaps you are wondering if you have received this wonderful invitation. If you think that you might have, ponder some important questions. Do you feel that you have more than average zeal in the ministry? Are you a keen student of God’s Word who loves to delve into “the deep things of God”? (1 Cor. 2:10) Have you seen Jehovah’s special blessing on your ministry? Do you have a burning desire to do Jehovah’s will? Do you have a deep inner feeling of responsibility to help others spiritually? Have you seen proof that Jehovah has personally intervened in your life? If you answer these questions with a resounding yes, does this mean that you now have the heavenly calling? No, it does not. Why not? Because these are not unique feelings experienced only by those who have the heavenly calling. Jehovah’s spirit works with equal force in those who have the hope of living forever on earth. In fact, if you are wondering whether you have received the heavenly calling, that would in itself indicate that you have not received it. Those called by Jehovah do not wonder whether they have been invited or not! They know!
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Has Robert given his personal experience on how he knew? The last sentence of the paragraph seems reasonable since one should know rather than guess.
 
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