Completely safe and effective

Watchman said:

Is there any reasonable explanation why millions of people have apparently not experienced any ill side effects whatsoever, while others have had horrendous after effects including death? Age or health does not appear to be a factor as perfectly healthy athletes have keeled over while sickly people take the shots and do fine. The disparity is very strange.

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Some people lied saying they got vaccinated to keep their jobs or others to save them from the drama of dealing with that nonsense. Athletes have been dealing with alot of problems with the vaccines because of all the rigorous physical activity multiplies the effects. Saline shots probably happen too, though alot more people got the real vaccine.

Soul Sage said:

Some people lied saying they got vaccinated to keep their jobs or others to save them from the drama of dealing with that nonsense. Athletes have been dealing with alot of problems with the vaccines because of all the rigorous physical activity multiplies the effects. Saline shots probably happen too, though alot more people got the real vaccine.

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@Soul Sage
EXACTLY!!!

StillA_WorshiperOfJah said:

I received this card from a PIMI sister which tells the sad, true story

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So sad! @StillA_WorshiperOfJah
Thank you for sharing this.

Carl said:

I guess I feel empowered to make such a statement based on the fact that I now question everything, especially the people I've followed for years... Alex Jones, Mike Adams, Tucker Carlson, Robert Malone... and so many others. I don't know what god they've placed their faith in, the True God, or Lucifer, Satan, Baal or some other false god. I've been looking into the false light, Gnostic side of things, and I believe we're being lied to on both ends of the spectrum in order to set up a faked return or Jesus and a fake kingdom on Earth via their Dominion Theology. I don't know the whistleblowers, so I can't say if they're motivated by false light forces. I firmly believe the dark side, vax pushers are 100% motived by evil. I can only speak on what I know 100% to be true; I know not one person who's had a negative effect from the shots. But thanks to research from so many on this site, as well as my own, I do believe these are bioweapons. I'm certainly not trying to deny you're right, so please don't take it that way. I don't think Robert was either. In my case, I'm just confused as to why these shots haven't affected me personally. I think they will slowly begin to take their effect soon though, so this discuss won't really matter in the long run. We need to keep our eyes on the prize, and not let minor differences of opinion break up our family here.

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@Carl

I think you were either given a saline injection or over time it may start to affect. Either way, I will keep you in my prayers.

I also want to mention that I love your attitude toward everything that surrounds this vaccine issue...encouraging us not to allow minor differences of opinion to tear down our family here…. You show strength of character.

This helps me to keep going despite the loneliness I feel every day.
I really appreciate you and everyone else on this forum.
Yes, let us keep our eyes on the prize.

Ms_ladyblue said:

I think you were either given a saline injection or over time it may start to affect. Either way, I will keep you in my prayers.

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I haven’t taken the shot. Lol I was referring to my family and friends who have.

Carl said:

I haven’t taken the shot. Lol I was referring to my family and friends who have.

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I believe the vaccines were not made to kill people directly as this would be too obvious. Some of the MRNA collects into unfortunate vital areas in the body, like near the heart or brain, while others have been fortunate that the MRNA collects in less vital areas. I do think it will lower the population growth for reproduction overall. As many women have reported unusual things during their menstrual cycles after taking those vaccines. So we will probably be hearing more news about women having trouble getting pregnant.

exLuther said:

What about cancers and heart attacks and stroke? The number of brothers and sisters in my home congregation with cancer and mysterious illness is very high. I'm convinced that some people experience reactions that we can't pin down. They just assume it's "normal" cancer. My uncle suddenly has ALS out of nowhere. What if a good number of the effects are just masked as other illnesses?

Just a thought. I'm not sure of anything. And what's frustrating is that I work in IT in a Healthcare organization and there is no effort whatsoever to use the data we have readily available to identify what's going on in the vaccinated population. It would be easy. I could write a report in half a day that would give solid numbers on what diagnoses and symptoms are being reported and the frequency compared to the pre-Covid times... But I'm convinced I'd be fired for even creating and configuring the report.

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@exLuther
I believe you are absolutely right about a good number of the side effects being masked as other illnesses. They’ve been doing this for years. As I’ve done research on vaccines for years, I began to learn the how and why vaccines came about and of course it mainly all got started based around Germ theory. For years they’ve created the illnesses in a syringe, that we’ve become accustomed to with all the different names for these illnesses. Then they say that we’re healthier now than in any time in history!

When I was growing up you rarely heard of the sicknesses we see today, or like we’ve seen over the last 25 or 30 years now. I remember going to school with many of the kids who had perfect attendance records for the year. They didn’t come to school sick either.

Now with covid they’ve just ramped up the ingredients they put in those syringes and all over the world, experimenting with these dangerous, mRNA vaccines, so now we have all these injuries and deaths, way more than previous years.

I can imagine how frustrating it would be to work in the kind of environment you’re in. If that was me I probably would’ve been fired and fined for being outspoken about what I knew. So, you’re probably right about getting fired if you tried to compile all that information for them. I do know that some of it is compiled and documented in the VAERS report but that’s only a small percentage of the real numbers.
Well, maybe one day the right person will come along where you work and allow you to create your report. But something tells me you’re not going to hold your breath for it.

Carl said:

I haven’t taken the shot. Lol I was referring to my family and friends who have.

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Thank goodness @Carl that you didn’t take that shot!!
I must’ve overlooked that detail referring to your family and friends.
But I do feel bad for your family that they’ve taken it, and anyone else. We really just don’t know when or if the affects will show up. It’s kind of like Russian roulette isn’t it.

My daughter, her husband and their 8 year old son have taken it and so far as I know nothing has happened to them. They won’t speak to me though because I questioned the GB about the decisions they made concerning these vaccines and my doubts. Now I’m shunned by them although I tried to reach out but no response. But I have found other ways I can at least find out about how they’re doing.

Now, it’s just a waiting game.

Ms_ladyblue said:

Now I’m shunned by them although I tried to reach out but no response. But I have found other ways I can at least find out about how they’re doing.
Now, it’s just a waiting game.

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Most Jehovah's Witnesses aren't expecting to be put to the test as far as I can recall. We still don't know what the mark may prove to be but we were given a warning. I worry that too many will just fall in line because they were told to obey the superior authorities. They should know from blood and the preaching work issues that the command to be obedient to the authorities has limits included. The question is, will they see it and act accordingly.

BagdadBill said:

Most Jehovah's Witnesses aren't expecting to be put to the test as far as I can recall. We still don't know what the mark may prove to be but we were given a warning. I worry that too many will just fall in line because they were told to obey the superior authorities. They should know from blood and the preaching work issues that the command to be obedient to the authorities has limits included. The question is, will they see it and act accordingly.

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@BagdadBill
I certainly hope that large numbers of the JW’s will open their eyes and flee. Or maybe at the last minute something will cause a large number to listen to the direction of the ‘voice out of heaven say:‘ “Get out of her my people.” —Rev. 18:4

How that will transpire then remains to be seen.

Carl said:

I haven’t taken the shot. Lol I was referring to my family and friends who have.

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Phew

Nomex said:

That was hard to listen , at the end it brought tears to my eyes. I have a 9 year old, and 4 year old, and this evil is truly demonic, and it breaks your heart!

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I have an 8 year old grandson that was vaccinated and it hurts not knowing how he’s doing. It’s bad enough my daughter was vaccinated but I have no idea how they’re doing. I try to find out in other ways, but otherwise I try not to think about it so much. Praying to Jehovah about my concerns helps me greatly.

PJ54 said:

One of the things I have noticed over the years is how there's generally multiple goals to be achieved by those in power. Often, we think there's a plan in the making when there were many plans being hatched throughout the whole ordeal. Then other plans come into play when certain goals weren't reached while others were. Warfare isn't just about bullets & arrows flying across the field, while catapults fling stones, or ships fire missiles at targets of interest. Much of it is psychological in order to test the waters of a specified target(s) all the while adjusting the perception of said person(s) of interest. Some of the biggest threats are not genetic, but rather memetic.

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Very interesting PJ. I just had to look up the word, memetic. In this case I’m referring to what the memetic effect is:
If something is memetic, that means it’s passed on by means of cultural information. In real life, language is a’meme’
and reacting to an insult in a negative way is a ‘memetic effect’.
An anomalous memetic effect is when a meme has an effect that doesn’t occur in the real world.

I usually have to look up words that capture my attention and curiosity. From this I understand that this memetic effect is something that we’ve been subjected to for the last two and a half years and most people have been taken in by it, and thereby those who have applied this way to achieve their goal we’re seeing those results and that’s why we see many of the people complying so easily.
Is that right?

And why is it not everyone falls for this and react the same?

Ms_ladyblue said:

Very interesting PJ. I just had to look up the word, memetic. In this case I’m referring to what the memetic effect is:
If something is memetic, that means it’s passed on by means of cultural information. In real life, language is a’meme’
and reacting to an insult in a negative way is a ‘memetic effect’.
An anomalous memetic effect is when a meme has an effect that doesn’t occur in the real world.

I usually have to look up words that capture my attention and curiosity. From this I understand that this memetic effect is something that we’ve been subjected to for the last two and a half years and most people have been taken in by it, and thereby those who have applied this way to achieve their goal we’re seeing those results and that’s why we see many of the people complying so easily.
Is that right?

And why is it not everyone falls for this and react the same?

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Yes this is the case. We live in an age of information thanks to the internet. In times past ideas were spread through newspapers, TV, & radio. Posters with propaganda (e.g. the Uncle Sam's I Want You In the U.S. Army) or advertisements have an effect on people where the goal is to get the people to react a certain way. Consider the ministry, the meme is the Gospel & the memetic agent is the Christian. Some people told stories around the campfire in order to give a message of some sort.

However, not everyone is the same & will have different reactions to certain forms of information. I think that some of the memes used are possibly twofold if not more in their purpose. One idea comes to mind is the Left vs Right dichotomy. The meme used can outrage one side while appealing to the other in order to keep the dichotomy ongoing. IIRC, the word meme came from Richard Dawkins when he explained how ideas are similar to genetics. Ideas that succeed are passed along the generations (like genes). If the idea does this it can spread far & wide where it affects the public perception on matters. I think it's why Donald Trump won against Hillary Clinton during the Presidential campaign.
When you think about it, it's a great tool for psychological warfare. There's a term called memetic warfare where there was many misinformation campaigns by certain agencies.

Check out the PDF on Info hazards! It's pretty handy to look into.

PJ54 said:

Yes this is the case. We live in an age of information thanks to the internet. In times past ideas were spread through newspapers, TV, & radio. Posters with propaganda (e.g. the Uncle Sam's I Want You In the U.S. Army) or advertisements have an effect on people where the goal is to get the people to react a certain way. Consider the ministry, the meme is the Gospel & the memetic agent is the Christian. Some people told stories around the campfire in order to give a message of some sort.

However, not everyone is the same & will have different reactions to certain forms of information. I think that some of the memes used are possibly twofold if not more in their purpose. One idea comes to mind is the Left vs Right dichotomy. The meme used can outrage one side while appealing to the other in order to keep the dichotomy ongoing. IIRC, the word meme came from Richard Dawkins when he explained how ideas are similar to genetics. Ideas that succeed are passed along the generations (like genes). If the idea does this it can spread far & wide where it affects the public perception on matters. I think it's why Donald Trump won against Hillary Clinton during the Presidential campaign.
When you think about it, it's a great tool for psychological warfare. There's a term called memetic warfare where there was many misinformation campaigns by certain agencies.

Check out the PDF on Info hazards! It's pretty handy to look into.

https://nickbostrom.com/information-hazards.pdf

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You know it’s very interesting how this works but it can also be very sinister. But regardless of how you look at it, it’s all a trick of the mind.
Thank you for the read PJ.

I had come across this article on the internet sometime last year. But you probably might already be familiar with this.
It also explains the different times in recent history they’ve used psyop.

Driven said:

Kim, if you have something to say to me, say it directly and not snide remarks through my husband. Wow. People like you really show your true colors over time.

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@Driven - there she is! she emerges from her hyatis for a fight.

one thing about me Driven- i don’t say things in private that i wouldn’t say in public, what you see is what you get.

I looked up to you. i admired you . I respected you.

and yes, after i read that absolute vicious and vile letter you wrote to Bunny, yes- what you could call a few of my many “true colors”, that for the most part i try to suppress as we all do- were elicited: anger, shame, regret, disappointment, sadness- we all have them, don’t we @Driven? it appears you yourself are also quite the colorful personality, aren’t you.

What exactly does it take to elicit yours? A heartfelt loving message? is that it?

Take a bow.

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@Driven - there she is! she emerges from her hyatis for a fight.

one thing about me Driven- i don’t say things in private that i wouldn’t say in public, what you see is what you get.

I looked up to you. i admired you . I respected you.

and yes, after i read that absolute vicious and vile letter you wrote to Bunny, yes- what you could call a few of my many “true colors”, that for the most part i try to suppress as we all do- were elicited: anger, shame, regret, disappointment, sadness- we all have them, don’t we @Driven? it appears you yourself are also quite the colorful personality, aren’t you.

What exactly does it take to elicit yours? A heartfelt loving message? is that it?

Take a bow.

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Whatever conflict is going on between you and Driven please keep it private.

Watchman said:

Whatever conflict is going on between you and Driven please keep it private.

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It isn’t worth my time.

BagdadBill said:

We still don't know what the mark may prove to be

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Hard to imagine that the 144,000 Kingdom heirs will have Jehovah and Jesus names, literally written on their foreheads?

Driven said:

It isn’t worth my time.

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Hey my sister. Welcome back.