Chapter 16 - An Eighth King

Nomex

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Apparently, it is at the stage when all seems lost and civilization is poised to simply unravel and disintegrate, that the seemingly, fatally wounded beast makes a miraculous recovery, so as to appear as the savior of the world.”
This is exactly why I think they will manifest themselves in some way. They will want to take credit for the fact that Jehovah has stopped the GT, and to be able to appear as saviors, they will have to display their power/s, in such a convincing manner, so as to "compel" people to take the MOB! They will have "compelling" "evidence" for believing the last of Satan's lies, before Armageddon. I think they will not be able to do that "invisibly." I suppose they will portray themselves as "Aliens" here to save us from ourselves!
 

SusanB

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This is exactly why I think they will manifest themselves in some way. They will want to take credit for the fact that Jehovah has stopped the GT, and to be able to appear as saviors, they will have to display their power/s, in such a convincing manner, so as to "compel" people to take the MOB! They will have "compelling" "evidence" for believing the last of Satan's lies, before Armageddon. I think they will not be able to do that "invisibly." I suppose they will portray themselves as "Aliens" here to save us from ourselves!
I know that you quoted my post but I just want to be clear that the quote is actually words of Robert King and not my words.
 

SusanB

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This chapter ends with these 2 paragraphs:

The crash of the present governmental system will likely be followed by the imposition of a form of global communism. In that way, everyone on earth would be brought into a situation that no one could buy or sell without acknowledging the image of the beast. The “one hour” allotted to the eighth king coincides with the hour of test Jesus referred to in the third chapter of Revelation, where he promised the faithful: “Because you kept the word about my endurance, I will also keep you from the hour of test, which is to come upon the entire inhabited earth, to put to the test those dwelling on the earth.”

The test that is coming upon the world will force all men to demonstrate their allegiance either to Satan’s “miraculously” resuscitated political beast or to Jehovah’s kingship. That is when the angel announces to the world: “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of judgment by him has arrived.”
 

StopTheInsanity

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This chapter ends with these 2 paragraphs:

The crash of the present governmental system will likely be followed by the imposition of a form of global communism. In that way, everyone on earth would be brought into a situation that no one could buy or sell without acknowledging the image of the beast. The “one hour” allotted to the eighth king coincides with the hour of test Jesus referred to in the third chapter of Revelation, where he promised the faithful: “Because you kept the word about my endurance, I will also keep you from the hour of test, which is to come upon the entire inhabited earth, to put to the test those dwelling on the earth.”

The test that is coming upon the world will force all men to demonstrate their allegiance either to Satan’s “miraculously” resuscitated political beast or to Jehovah’s kingship. That is when the angel announces to the world: “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of judgment by him has arrived.”
So os the one hour the same length as the 3.5 years?
 

StopTheInsanity

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This chapter ends with these 2 paragraphs:

The crash of the present governmental system will likely be followed by the imposition of a form of global communism. In that way, everyone on earth would be brought into a situation that no one could buy or sell without acknowledging the image of the beast. The “one hour” allotted to the eighth king coincides with the hour of test Jesus referred to in the third chapter of Revelation, where he promised the faithful: “Because you kept the word about my endurance, I will also keep you from the hour of test, which is to come upon the entire inhabited earth, to put to the test those dwelling on the earth.”

The test that is coming upon the world will force all men to demonstrate their allegiance either to Satan’s “miraculously” resuscitated political beast or to Jehovah’s kingship. That is when the angel announces to the world: “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of judgment by him has arrived.”
There is a part in the book about the image comparing I to the image in Daniel that they had to bow down to. And the angel that saved them was Michael foreshadowing how he will save us in the future. Awesome stuff. 👌
 

StopTheInsanity

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Good question
The test that is coming upon the world will force all men to demonstrate their allegiance either to Satan’s “miraculously” resuscitated political beast or to Jehovah’s kingship

That miraculously resuscitated government is the UN and according to the book, if I understood it correctly, will last the 3.5 years.
 

Melinda

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The test that is coming upon the world will force all men to demonstrate their allegiance either to Satan’s “miraculously” resuscitated political beast or to Jehovah’s kingship

That miraculously resuscitated government is the UN and according to the book, if I understood it correctly, will last the 3.5 years.
That’s the way I understand it as well.
 

Nomex

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Think about this...I was talking about this with my wife earlier tonight. Paul, that is to say Saul, stood and held the coats of those who stoned Steven.

Saul was a zealous and adamant opponent of everything "Christian." He wanted to eradicate Christians. Yet Jesus miraculously revealed himself, in his heavenly glory none the less, to Saul, WHY? Because Jesus read his heart! In any event, what is the pattern in the Bible from Jehovah about who he gives his spirit too? He PROVES IT! EVERY SINGLE TIME! So, it makes perfect sense to me, the "Two Witnesses" will PROVE by means of "powerful signs", that they are Christ's brothers! Ther3e will be NO QUESTION, at least none to honest hearted people!
 

DavidCJ

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@Watchman Please explain the part in Daniel about the "Ships of Kittim". I felt like it was talking about the present time regarding Russia kicking Ukraine(despite best NATO resources)'s sorry behind and China eventually coming into it.

Kit'tim seems rather specific to me as it isn't like Israel, Moab, Edom, nor Ammonites. As I pointed out before, significant portion of Chinese population comes from the descendant that was called Kit'tim. I also came into knowledge that there are "Caucasian" Russians and "Asian" Russians(even though they are so well integrated the countrymen just call all of them Russian), so considering the proximity of the two countries, it might include Russians as well.

So what would be the symbolic meaning of the ancient Chinese/Russian people humiliating King of the North? I was advised to ask questions, so I am asking questions.
 

Watchman

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@Watchman Please explain the part in Daniel about the "Ships of Kittim". I felt like it was talking about the present time regarding Russia kicking Ukraine(despite best NATO resources)'s sorry behind and China eventually coming into it.

Kit'tim seems rather specific to me as it isn't like Israel, Moab, Edom, nor Ammonites. As I pointed out before, significant portion of Chinese population comes from the descendant that was called Kit'tim. I also came into knowledge that there are "Caucasian" Russians and "Asian" Russians(even though they are so well integrated the countrymen just call all of them Russian), so considering the proximity of the two countries, it might include Russians as well.

So what would be the symbolic meaning of the ancient Chinese/Russian people humiliating King of the North? I was advised to ask questions, so I am asking questions.
Kittim is believed to have been the island of Cyprus. According to the Insight on the Scriptures, Kittim was also understood to mean islands as a group. In Ezekiel Kittim is associated with Tyre, which I have demonstrated represents the modern British Empire. In the chapter The King of the North, the ships of Kittim represent islands and nations that were part of the British Empire but which fought to put down Hitler, whom some elements within the British establishment had created and supported with the intent of destroying Europe. Much to their dismay, their Nazi project failed. Interestingly, though, the British revived the Nazi holdovers in Ukraine, the so-called Banderites, and sent them to war against Russia.
 

LifeLearning

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Kittim is believed to have been the island of Cyprus. According to the Insight on the Scriptures, Kittim was also understood to mean islands as a group. In Ezekiel Kittim is associated with Tyre, which I have demonstrated represents the modern British Empire. In the chapter The King of the North, the ships of Kittim represent islands and nations that were part of the British Empire but which fought to put down Hitler, whom some elements within the British establishment had created and supported with the intent of destroying Europe. Much to their dismay, their Nazi project failed. Interestingly, though, the British revived the Nazi holdovers in Ukraine, the so-called Banderites, and sent them to war against Russia.
A watchman is what (he) has made you to the house of Israel. You have indeed demonstrated these things clearly and with power.

“‘Woe to him who is multiplying what is not his own—O how long!—and who is making debt heavy against himself! 7 Will not those claiming interest of you rise up suddenly, and those wake up who are violently shaking you, and you certainly become to them something to pillage? 8 Because you yourself despoiled many nations, all the remaining ones of the peoples will despoil you, because of the shedding of blood of mankind and the violence to the earth, the town and all those dwelling in it.
 

DavidCJ

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@Watchman Does the current Russia have anything to do with the big picture? Like someone else said, are they part of the Kings of the South going against the KoTN Deep State? If they are significant enough that they are contributors to a future World War, I can't imagine they are not, especially when the coming war would result in potential devastation to the world.

The prophecy suggests that KoTS is eventually subjugated and/or become part of the resistance against the Messiah during the end days. Then we have to assume the entire BRIC alliance falls to the schemes of London and its ilk, which from the current perspective is another huge upheaval.

Thank you very much in advance. I plan to get couple of more copies so I can hand out to people.
 
Maybe the ships of kittim are the nations now telling coutnries like France that they won't participate in the Ukranian war. Germany and another country, forgot which one, blankly refused to send troops to Ukraine when France was opening its mouth to do so. Hard to know if the war in Ukraine or the one in Israel, or either one, is the war that the ships of kittim come to stop the king of the north. Maybe there is another war coming that the king of the north gets rejected by the ships of kittim.
 

DavidCJ

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@I Like Pizza While I'm not 100% aligned with Robert on this part, I will take significant consideration to what he is saying as other parts completely resonate with me, rather than me mere agreeing to what he is saying. Proving that his claims of being the anointed class is a very high probability. He seems to have special zeal for the truth and he can't stop until he figures them out, and while some of us are better in that regard than others, his efforts seem incomparable. I am a mere reader and I can't catch up with the amount of materials he puts out. I can believe that he doesn't have 100% accurate knowledge, and none of us, including the anointed will until the Day. However I'm not of the anointed class, therefore my feelings in regards to this chapter may be just me disagreeing rather than because he is wrong. I care to know about truth and facts.

Another thing that inclines me to agree with him is his comprehensive knowledge of history and the political systems and the way he eloquently weaves them with his understanding of biblical prophecy.

The Churches of Christendom looks at the trees rather than the forest. Jehovah's Witnesses belonging to the WTBS focus on the forest. I try to look further up at the entire world and Robert's book is proof that he does that akin to how Satan and God's angels see the world(one might imagine the picture from one publication how Satan is watching the entire inhabited earth).

The book really peels off the many hidden layers and exposes the big picture of the whole earthy operation of Satan. While many of them are things I was aware of, I also didn't know many other things pointed out in the book either and I certainly can't write or explain in the way he's able to.
 
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@I Like Pizza While I'm not 100% aligned with Robert on this part, I will take significant consideration to what he is saying as other parts completely resonate with me, rather than me mere agreeing to what he is saying. Proving that his claims of being the anointed class is a very high probability. He seems to have special zeal for the truth and he can't stop until he figures them out, and while some of us are better in that regard than others, his efforts seem incomparable. I am a mere reader and I can't catch up with the amount of materials he puts out. I can believe that he doesn't have 100% accurate knowledge, and none of us, including the anointed will until the Day. However I'm not of the anointed class, therefore my feelings in regards to this chapter may be just me disagreeing rather than because he is wrong. I care to know about truth and facts.

Another thing that inclines me to agree with him is his comprehensive knowledge of history and the political systems and the way he eloquently weaves them with his understanding of biblical prophecy.

The Churches of Christendom looks at the trees rather than the forest. Jehovah's Witnesses belonging to the WTBS focus on the forest. I try to look further up at the entire world and Robert's book is proof that he does that akin to how Satan and God's angels see the world(one might imagine the picture from one publication how Satan is watching the entire inhabited earth).

The book really peels off the many hidden layers and exposes the big picture of the whole earthy operation of Satan. While many of them are things I was aware of, I also didn't know many other things pointed out in the book either and I certainly can't write or explain in the way he's able to.
ok...so what does all that have to do with the ships of Kittim? Whether the man is a chosen one or not I cannot say. I think that should be between him and Jehovah. Having a vast repository of bible knowledge and being an anointed are two different things. Just because somebody has a comprehensive knowledge of history and the political system and the bible does not make one anointed, it just makes them knowledgeable.

oh wait, I see. The title of this post is chapter 8 talking about his book. Ok sorry, I was like why are you pushing a book on me. Yeah haven't read it yet. I'll check it out.
 

DavidCJ

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ok...so what does all that have to do with the ships of Kittim? Whether the man is a chosen one or not I cannot say. I think that should be between him and Jehovah. Having a vast repository of bible knowledge and being an anointed are two different things. Just because somebody has a comprehensive knowledge of history and the political system and the bible does not make one anointed, it just makes them knowledgeable.

oh wait, I see. The title of this post is chapter 8 talking about his book. Ok sorry, I was like why are you pushing a book on me. Yeah haven't read it yet. I'll check it out.
I'm "pushing" it only because it's the most correct among what's out there. What else should we listen to? The Watchtower? The Ex JWs? What about the countless Christendom denominations that don't even acknowledge baby food such as the name of God or nonsense such as the Trinity and a loving God except when you die and end up in eternal Hellfire?

Really, I'm only recommending for people to take a look. Decide for yourself, just like everything else. I don't know your history, and I'm making a big assumption you have a history with the group known as Jehovah's Witnesses. I might search you up later to see if there's an intro.

The Bible is a very difficult thing to understand, because it has a deeper meaning often with parallels in the past and future. We humans have recorded and stored the Bible and the words in it are easy to search as ever. Just type what you have in mind and type it in. But 95% of work needed to figure it out cannot be figured by putting it in a database, nor with Artificial Intelligence, or a group of scholars debating endlessly.

It requires God's spirit to reveal it's secrets, only given to those whom he sees fit, especially those who are willing to delve into secrets with all their might just like a man with a shovel determined to find the treasure somewhere down there. It is at the same time a mirror for your personality and ways of thought so you can truly change yourself for the better.
 
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