Where are the anointed remnant in all of this? M.I.A?

Jahrule said:
Would it really be out of character for Jah to find people outside the city gates to start the ball rolling? Many of the chosen may in fact be sleeping presently. The question being, are their sins willful or out of ignorance. That'll be the determining factor. They will take center stage eventually, but they need to be set on that path after certain conditions are met. It's possible a group of anointed will emerge somehow apart from the Org, ether after it falls or right before it falls. How exactly they will find each other is your best guess. If I had to guess it'll probably be some kind of online community that may serve as an orientation point for the confused. Who knows? Jah will gather his people together in the perfect way. It might start off small, but it could grow drastically after a certain point -- along with all the heat that woud bring. We'll just have to wait and see.
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Hi Jahrule, Yes, I think that is reasonable. That both inside & outside the gates, there may be those who have been "chosen' that who may well be asleep presently. And that yes, clearly they would have to be brought together at some point. However clearly none have been anointed with holy spirit at this stage in a way that even remotely resembles the anointing of those recorded throughout scripture. Or that fulfils or mirrors the words originally spoken in Joel & then reapplied here in Acts Ch 2:14 -21

14 But Peter stood up with the Eleven+ and spoke to them in a loud voice: “Men of Ju·deʹa and all you inhabitants of Jerusalem, let this be known to you and listen carefully to my words. 15 These people are, in fact, not drunk, as you suppose, for it is the third hour of the day.* 16 On the contrary, this is what was said through the prophet Joel: 17 ‘“And in the last days,” God says, “I will pour out some of my spirit on every sort of flesh, and your sons and your daughters will prophesy and your young men will see visions and your old men will dream dreams,+ 18 and even on my male slaves and on my female slaves I will pour out some of my spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.+ 19 And I will give wonders* in heaven above and signs on earth below—blood and fire and clouds of smoke. 20 The sun will be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before the great and illustrious day of Jehovah* comes. 21 And everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah* will be saved.”’+
 
Just woke up! said:
Hi Jahrule, Yes, I think that is reasonable. That both inside & outside the gates, there may be those who have been "chosen' that who may well be asleep presently. And that yes, clearly they would have to be brought together at some point. However clearly none have been anointed with holy spirit at this stage in a way that even remotely resembles the anointing of those recorded throughout scripture. Or that fulfils or mirrors the words originally spoken in Joel & then reapplied here in Acts Ch 2:14 -21

14 But Peter stood up with the Eleven+ and spoke to them in a loud voice: “Men of Ju·deʹa and all you inhabitants of Jerusalem, let this be known to you and listen carefully to my words. 15 These people are, in fact, not drunk, as you suppose, for it is the third hour of the day.* 16 On the contrary, this is what was said through the prophet Joel: 17 ‘“And in the last days,” God says, “I will pour out some of my spirit on every sort of flesh, and your sons and your daughters will prophesy and your young men will see visions and your old men will dream dreams,+ 18 and even on my male slaves and on my female slaves I will pour out some of my spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.+ 19 And I will give wonders* in heaven above and signs on earth below—blood and fire and clouds of smoke. 20 The sun will be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before the great and illustrious day of Jehovah* comes. 21 And everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah* will be saved.”’+
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It's so weird you'd bring this up. I am always thinking about these scriptures, especially the part about God pouring out his spirit in such a miraculous way. You are absolutely correct. We haven't seen anything yet, and I've felt the spirit of Jah before in majors ways. When I finally got baptized in Lake Lanier it was palpable. I felt Jah very intensely, but even that is peanuts compared to what he will do for his people in the final days.

Obviously, I have no way of knowing where we are on the timeline. Nevertheless, for whoever is alive during that time to experience that much holy spirit will be unlike anything that ever happened. I think the original apostles felt tremendous spirit in their day, but even that likely won't compare to the measure meted out for the chosen during the time of the end. I'm sure even the great crowd will be getting their fair share of spirit in those days, especially after they are repurchased, when the true spiritual paradise begins in the secret place of refuge Jah sets up for us.
 
Just woke up! said:
That both inside & outside the gates, there may be those who have been "chosen' that who may well be asleep presently. And that yes, clearly they would have to be brought together at some point.
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During the ministry of Russell he believed in "spirit-begettal in Babylon." Meaning Jehovah would seek out those seeking Him, and anoint them with the Holy Spirit. However if they did not heed the call to "get out of her my people". They would fall into the "great company" class. A class in those days which was considered a secondary heavenly class.
 
KingdomLeast said:
During the ministry of Russell he believed in "spirit-begettal in Babylon." Meaning Jehovah would seek out those seeking Him, and anoint them with the Holy Spirit. However if they did not heed the call to "get out of her my people". They would fall into the "great company" class. A class in those days which was considered a secondary heavenly class.
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I think a great many of us have this.
 
KingdomLeast said:
During the ministry of Russell he believed in "spirit-begettal in Babylon." Meaning Jehovah would seek out those seeking Him, and anoint them with the Holy Spirit. However if they did not heed the call to "get out of her my people". They would fall into the "great company" class. A class in those days which was considered a secondary heavenly class.
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CT was groping for the light, trying to understand. He started it off. Brick by brick. We are going to finish it. Someone has to, right?
 
KingdomLeast said:
By "we", you mean "you"?
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By we, I believe he means us all, we each give understandings and intepretations, that is light, we all have holy spirit in some way- 1 Cor 12:4-11 Now there are different gifts, but there is the same spirit; 5 and there are different ministries, and yet there is the same Lord; 6 and there are different activities, and yet it is the same God who performs them all in everyone. 7 But the manifestation of the spirit is given to each one for a beneficial purpose. 8 For to one is given speech of wisdom through the spirit, to another speech of knowledge according to the same spirit, 9 to another faith by the same spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one spirit, 10 to yet another operations of powerful works, to another prophesying, to another discernment of inspired expressions, to another different tongues, and to another interpretation of tongues. 11 But all these operations are performed by the very same spirit, distributing to each one respectively just as it wills.
 
Compliment said:
By we, I believe he means us all, we each give understandings and intepretations, that is light, we all have holy spirit in some way- 1 Cor 12:4-11 Now there are different gifts, but there is the same spirit; 5 and there are different ministries, and yet there is the same Lord; 6 and there are different activities, and yet it is the same God who performs them all in everyone. 7 But the manifestation of the spirit is given to each one for a beneficial purpose. 8 For to one is given speech of wisdom through the spirit, to another speech of knowledge according to the same spirit, 9 to another faith by the same spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one spirit, 10 to yet another operations of powerful works, to another prophesying, to another discernment of inspired expressions, to another different tongues, and to another interpretation of tongues. 11 But all these operations are performed by the very same spirit, distributing to each one respectively just as it wills.
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All I'm saying is that Robert isn't too keen on those who disagree with his interpretations and understanding of scriptures, and many here seem to hang on every word he says, replacing the GB with RK. So where is the "we"?
 
KingdomLeast said:
All I'm saying is that Robert isn't too keen on those who disagree with his interpretations and understanding of scriptures, and many here seem to hang on every word he says, replacing the GB with RK. So where is the "we"?
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Well I think that is largely due to dealing with the trinitarians. I looked at the older videos when he started out on YouTube & had seen him arguing with the Christendom crowd & it seemed to be quite a bit from what I have noticed. My guess is at some point it just became to tiresome & he just tells people they just don't get it. Arguing with people for a long time does tend to burn you out, plus Robert is an old timer & I have heard when you get older your patience runs short.
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Just woke up! said:
Brothers, I am a little puzzled. Given recent events both inside & outside of the congregation, there are more reasons than ever before, to begin questioning & awakening to the nonsense all around us. The covid hysteria & unscriptural, unethical, illogical, unreasonable & untrue direction & advice was like a bucket of ice water over the head. Whether that be from "God's spokesmen" or "Channel" the Governing Body, or the W.H.O, the U.N, C.D.C & on infinitum.

And it appears that many are being shaken awake by these events. Although many of those on this forum appear to have woken even years ago.
Robert has been trying to wake many for decades. I feel quite late to the party. However, because of these recent events, I was able to wake from this hypnotized state. And quite a number around me are waking also. I have to keep buying more of Roberts books, as I keep giving my own copy away to keen readers eager to make sense of the madness.
And because we are waking from this sleep, we naturally start asking questions & challenging those within our congregations. Even simply questioning & challenging the covid narrative & response brings rapid consequences.
I was quickly accused of a lack of faith, viewed with question, accused, attacked, invited to meet with Elders, & now hear I am on the verge of being "marked" or disfellowshipped. While I am in New Zealand, this scenario is no doubt occurring all around the world.

My question is this. Where are all of the anointed remnant in all of this???

It makes no sense to me, that many of us are waking up at present or even some time ago, who are not anointed. And yet it would appear that those who are anointed are either still hypnotized & sleeping on, or are at least "missing in action"???

We know that the early bible students all considered themselves anointed. But was that not due to their all previously having come from churches all having the heavenly hope? And their incorrect presumption that Jesus had arrived & their calling up was imminent? I actually now begin to wonder whether many if any of them were actually anointed back then. Just as I have doubts about those within the WT at present that make such a claim.
Could you really be anointed, and yet fully support the satanic ploy of pharmakia & the Plandemic? Or even turn a blind eye to it all?

Given that the vast majority of Jehovah's witnesses (8 or 9 million of them) are refusing to wake up or at least stand up & speak out against the hypocrisy of the WT & GB, why is it falling upon the few stray sheep, mostly it appears with an earthly hope to stand up & challenge such?
Not that I personally am complaining. I count it a great privilege to speak the truth, regardless of the consequences.

But should not the anointed be at the forefront of those waking up & speaking out? Especially given that Jesus arrival is now actually imminent?
If the anointed have all been chosen by now, where are they?
Is it possible, that Jesus is waiting until shortly before, or even during his arrival to choose the remainder of his brothers?
Based on their response to the tests occurring at this time?

I met an elderly sister recently, who had just obtained a copy of Roberts book, "Jehovah has become King".
(Sent to her by Seadog on this forum). She had held it for exactly one week. She had never heard of Robert King prior. Not only had she read it cover to cover & was on her second time through, but it was filled with notes, 30+tabs & highlights & came with a notepad with pages of observations & questions?
As I listened to her enthusiastic questions & attitude, I thought to myself, could this dear sister perhaps receive a calling in the near future?

Obviously Robert gives clear evidence of one who is anointed & is doing a wonderful job of assisting others in this waking process.
But how many more anointed brothers or sisters do we have among us? Do we have any idea?
Is there a previous thread where Robert or others have discussed these thoughts?
Any help or observations greatly appreciated!
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Remember the illustration of the virgins falling asleep right before the coming of the master? All of them? And the illustration of the faithful slave that receives a few strokes? And in Isaiah the blind servant?
Jesus is the one who will open their eyes, and actually, everyone's eyes.
Just like it happened with Israel, only terror will make them understand and will wake everyone up. Most of people will not wake up until Jesus comes. Robert is only doing his job just like Ezekiel, Jeremiah and so on... But back then only a few listened to them until Jerusalem was destroyed and then everyone realized that what they said was true. The same will happen today, but just like in the past not everyone listened to them even when Jerusalem was destroyed, not everyone will listen today. Many will become apostates and so on... It will be a huge, horrible mess. The Christian congregation will collapse and will be divided and everything we know will happen. So, we can expect a part being saved and enduring till the end and another part becoming apostate and showing what's truly in their hearts. That's when and even in some way how the separation will take place and everyone will receive something according to their deeds.
 
LuisMerino9412 said:
Remember the illustration of the virgins falling asleep right before the coming of the master? All of them? And the illustration of the faithful slave that receives a few strokes? And in Isaiah the blind servant?
Jesus is the one who will open their eyes, and actually, everyone's eyes.
Just like it happened with Israel, only terror will make them understand and will wake everyone up. Most of people will not wake up until Jesus comes. Robert is only doing his job just like Ezekiel, Jeremiah and so on... But back then only a few listened to them until Jerusalem was destroyed and then everyone realized that what they said was true. The same will happen today, but just like in the past not everyone listened to them even when Jerusalem was destroyed, not everyone will listen today. Many will become apostates and so on... It will be a huge, horrible mess. The Christian congregation will collapse and will be divided and everything we know will happen. So, we can expect a part being saved and enduring till the end and another part becoming apostate and showing what's truly in their hearts. That's when and even in some way how the separation will take place and everyone will receive something according to their deed
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That is the scripture I was thinking of when reading this thread. All of the virgins fell asleep while waiting for the bridegroom to return because it was late in the night. Half of them did come prepared though. And half were welcomed into the marriage ceremony. Them being asleep though didn't mean that they weren't prepared or privy to what's going on, they just grew tired of waiting as it became late into the evening. So there are those who are awake now who understand about MOL and the operation of error who will tire of waiting and will fall asleep but because they knew before the fell asleep it will be easy for them to get their lamps in order when they hear the cry that the bridegroom is coming. I believe the oil is symbolic of their insight. So there are some that you feel are MIA but right now they might be just gaining insight and are awake to the situation of whats going on in the organization.
 
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Shiloh said:
That is the scripture I was thinking of when reading this thread. All of the virgins fell asleep while waiting for the bridegroom to return because it was late in the night. Half of them did come prepared though. And half were welcomed into the marriage ceremony. Them being asleep though didn't mean that they weren't prepared or privy to what's going on, they just grew tired of waiting as it became late into the evening. So there are those who are awake now who understand about MOL and the operation of error will tire of waiting and will fall asleep but because they knew before the fell asleep it will be easy for them to get their lamps in order when they hear the cry that the bridegroom is coming. I believe the oil is symbolic of their insight. So there are some that you feel are MIA but right now they might be just gaining insight and are awake to the situation of whats going on in the organization.
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The oil is what keeps the light of our lamps burning, the light of scripture. Illuminating the return of our Master!
 
KingdomLeast said:
All I'm saying is that Robert isn't too keen on those who disagree with his interpretations and understanding of scriptures, and many here seem to hang on every word he says, replacing the GB with RK. So where is the "we"?
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I was the same way when I first saw this site, the way I eventually looked at it is find a common ground...I thought he was trying to be a religious leader/robed Jew, he then reposted something that clarified that the robed Jew was Jesus which I agreed with...something that can help you is a little something from the Hebrews/Congregation of Philadelphia:


Also, a verse: Mark 9:38-50

Now granted, I don't agree with some of his intepretations such as the Wild Beast not currently in power or the False Prophet, in mine and my parents views the Wild Beast as the United Nations, False Prophet as the World Health Organization, image of the beast-goals of the beast-sustainable development goals, etc

But we cannot discount every intepretation, we must have a filter on what fits and what doesn't fit according to our decernment and based on what we know from the bible..JW.org got us this far and so far we are still further ahead than almost every other religion.
 
KingdomLeast said:
All I'm saying is that Robert isn't too keen on those who disagree with his interpretations and understanding of scriptures, and many here seem to hang on every word he says, replacing the GB with RK. So where is the "we"?
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I don't know. I've always found him to be pretty tolerant. BTW, I don't hang on every word he says and disagree with him on some things. Usually people get ban-hammered when they teach outright crap like Israel is still the chosen nation, etc. Or they abusive and belligerent. I've seen him take some abuse on occasions and have some people disagree with him and those people are still around.

You'd probably be surprised how many people on here don't align with him with every little thing. A mature Christian knows there are many things we simply don't know yet and some things that will surprise our socks off when they're revealed. Humility is very important in our stance before The Most High.
 
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