Where are the anointed remnant in all of this? M.I.A?

[kenmuldoon55]

Maybe they’ll just get a good whipping

 

[evw]

I don't question anyone being anointed or not but isn't it the sealing that matters, two different things entirely. An anointed person can become disapproved. I'm thinking that throughout early true Christian history there were faithful who at their death received some kind of sealing/approval/witness from Jehovah despite possessing a limited understanding of scripture? What did Paul say before his martyrdom , 2 Timothy 4:7-8 "I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. 8 Finally, there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will give to me on that Day, and not to me only but also to all who have loved His appearing".
Paul knew he was sealed.
But would that seal of approval occur had any been involved in some kind of ongoing idolatry which we see many in the organization practicing now?
I don't know, it's just an elephant in the room for me. It's like illegal immigration comparing those who go through the legal process to gain citizenship to those that don't.
Another question would be when did the organization begin to set itself up as an idol and to what degree did each member go along with WTs demand for exclusive devotion. Maybe a lot of those anointed were PIMO seeing how they saw no other alternative other than the WT model to practice their devotion and worship. Who knows. Maybe in the final analysis it all boils down to what's in each person's heart and only Jehovah and Jesus can make that determination.

Thank you Ken, it was absolutely not my intention to make a judgment about who was or was not anointed, but more of a general question for clarity. And your answer is clear to me, so again thank you

 

[kenmuldoon55]

Thank you Ken, it was absolutely not my intention to make a judgment about who was or was not anointed, but more of a general question for clarity. And your answer is clear to me, so again thank you

No no please, your input is valuable.
I’m just spouting about something I don’t understand so any and all comments on the subject at hand are greatly appreciated.
Everything I put forth is simply opinion and always subject to adjustment.
After all we’re all just Steel sharpening Steel.

 

[Seadog]

After all we’re all just Steel sharpening Steel.

And not being punished for that!

 

[kirmmy]

I believe it was on one of their updates within the last 2 or 3 years. And I think it was Mark Sanderson.

Loush...or spelled with a D...I'm not sure.

 

[Ms_ladyblue]

Loush...or spelled with a D...I'm not sure.

Thanks for the correction kirmmy.

 

[J&P]

Did you see the follow-up WT article where they gaslit and scolded the JW's for pointing it out and talking about it?

No, we don't remember seeing the follow-up article at the time but we looked it up tonight.... so, now we have.
Wish we could say we are surprised but it's pretty much "par for the course", right?
Thanks for pointing the article out to us.

 

[kenmuldoon55]

And not being punished for that!

We’ll be vindicated in the end brother.

 

[kenmuldoon55]

I think it was in a court transcript of a trial that happened in Scotland and Fred Franz was there?

Oh Thankyou for that. I knew I read it.

 

[J&P]

Personalmente no me parece nada redundante que compartáis cosas que yo sabía hace mucho. Es más, me hace ilusión que se abran los ojos antes de que el abrir de ojos sea por la fuerza y permitido por Jehová para desenmascarar esa operación de Satanás oculta. Eso da tiempo de reacción y tiempo de mascar la profecia. Jehová no quiere que nadie sea destruido y muchos no encajarán la caída de su casa. Me alegro cada verdad nueva que se descubre indistintamente del orden en el tiempo. Muchos hemos estado solos por ser los únicos en denunciar. Para mí sois como un premio, puesto que la unión hace la fuerza y fortalece mucho ver que el pueblo de Jehová se esta despertando y que la profecia avanza. Te siento hermano, cómo parte de algo que también es mío y entonces siento a nuestro Padre y le veo sonreír de satisfacción. Todos debemos prepararnos para lo que viene, y se siente muy cerca ese día de Jehová. Gracias por compartirte por aquí. Saludos, Ana

Translation: Personally, I don't think it's redundant that you share things that I knew a long time ago. What's more, I'm excited for the eyes to open before the blink of an eye is by force and allowed by Jehovah to unmask that occult Satan's operation. That gives time for reaction and time to chew the prophecy. Jehovah does not want anyone to be destroyed and many will not fit the fall of his house. I am happy every new truth that is discovered indistinctly of order in time. Many of us have been alone for being the only ones to report. For me you are like a reward, since union makes strength and strengthens a lot to see that Jehovah's people are waking up and that prophecy advances. I feel you brother, as part of something that is also mine and then I feel our Father and I see him smile with satisfaction. We must all prepare for what is coming, and it feels very close that day to Jehovah. Thank you for sharing you here. Regards, Ana❤

Thank you, Ana, for that very sincere, personal response to our post. It was a lonely time for us but, thankfully,
we did have our son and daughter (in-law) with whom we could talk with very freely. So, we were in a better position that some of you.

Sorry, I thought I had sent this reply earlier so I hope you didn't think your words were lost on us. Hopefully, we'll meet personally in the future when language will not be a barrier. (Phyllis)

 

[Ana]

Thank you, Ana, for that very sincere, personal response to our post. It was a lonely time for us but, thankfully,
we did have our son and daughter (in-law) with whom we could talk with very freely. So, we were in a better position that some of you.

Sorry, I thought I had sent this reply earlier so I hope you didn't think your words were lost on us. Hopefully, we'll meet personally in the future when language will not be a barrier. (Phyllis)

Nada bueno se pierde, y descuida, suelo pensar bien, es más práctico! Además al ser de las pocas que no hablan inglés, debo tener más paciencia. Sea de la forma que sea, el espíritu es libre y no sabe de idiomas. Tenemos la mejor de las direcciones. Me emociona ver cómo ha crecido este lugar y espero sigamos por aquí compartiendo este espacio. A medida que todo avance será más complicado, así que aún es tiempo favorable. Un gran saludo!!

 

[CyndiaS]

Nada bueno se pierde, y descuida, suelo pensar bien, es más práctico! Además al ser de las pocas que no hablan inglés, debo tener más paciencia. Sea de la forma que sea, el espíritu es libre y no sabe de idiomas. Tenemos la mejor de las direcciones. Me emociona ver cómo ha crecido este lugar y espero sigamos por aquí compartiendo este espacio. A medida que todo avance será más complicado, así que aún es tiempo favorable. Un gran saludo!!

Google Translate:

Nothing good is lost, and don't worry, I usually think well, it's more practical! Besides, being one of the few who don't speak English, I have to be more patient. However it may be, the spirit is free and knows no language. We have the best of directions. I am excited to see how this place has grown and I hope we will continue to share this space. As everything progresses it will be more complicated, so it is still favorable time. Best regards!!!

 

[Ana]

Google Translate:

Nothing good is lost, and don't worry, I usually think well, it's more practical! Besides, being one of the few who don't speak English, I have to be more patient. However it may be, the spirit is free and knows no language. We have the best of directions. I am excited to see how this place has grown and I hope we will continue to share this space. As everything progresses it will be more complicated, so it is still favorable time. Best regards!!!

 

[TimeWrath]

Brothers, I am a little puzzled. Given recent events both inside & outside of the congregation, there are more reasons than ever before, to begin questioning & awakening to the nonsense all around us. The covid hysteria & unscriptural, unethical, illogical, unreasonable & untrue direction & advice was like a bucket of ice water over the head. Whether that be from "God's spokesmen" or "Channel" the Governing Body, or the W.H.O, the U.N, C.D.C & on infinitum.

And it appears that many are being shaken awake by these events. Although many of those on this forum appear to have woken even years ago.
Robert has been trying to wake many for decades. I feel quite late to the party. However, because of these recent events, I was able to wake from this hypnotized state. And quite a number around me are waking also. I have to keep buying more of Roberts books, as I keep giving my own copy away to keen readers eager to make sense of the madness.
And because we are waking from this sleep, we naturally start asking questions & challenging those within our congregations. Even simply questioning & challenging the covid narrative & response brings rapid consequences.
I was quickly accused of a lack of faith, viewed with question, accused, attacked, invited to meet with Elders, & now hear I am on the verge of being "marked" or disfellowshipped. While I am in New Zealand, this scenario is no doubt occurring all around the world.

My question is this. Where are all of the anointed remnant in all of this???

It makes no sense to me, that many of us are waking up at present or even some time ago, who are not anointed. And yet it would appear that those who are anointed are either still hypnotized & sleeping on, or are at least "missing in action"???

We know that the early bible students all considered themselves anointed. But was that not due to their all previously having come from churches all having the heavenly hope? And their incorrect presumption that Jesus had arrived & their calling up was imminent? I actually now begin to wonder whether many if any of them were actually anointed back then. Just as I have doubts about those within the WT at present that make such a claim.
Could you really be anointed, and yet fully support the satanic ploy of pharmakia & the Plandemic? Or even turn a blind eye to it all?

Given that the vast majority of Jehovah's witnesses (8 or 9 million of them) are refusing to wake up or at least stand up & speak out against the hypocrisy of the WT & GB, why is it falling upon the few stray sheep, mostly it appears with an earthly hope to stand up & challenge such?
Not that I personally am complaining. I count it a great privilege to speak the truth, regardless of the consequences.

But should not the anointed be at the forefront of those waking up & speaking out? Especially given that Jesus arrival is now actually imminent?
If the anointed have all been chosen by now, where are they?
Is it possible, that Jesus is waiting until shortly before, or even during his arrival to choose the remainder of his brothers?
Based on their response to the tests occurring at this time?

I met an elderly sister recently, who had just obtained a copy of Roberts book, "Jehovah has become King".
(Sent to her by Seadog on this forum). She had held it for exactly one week. She had never heard of Robert King prior. Not only had she read it cover to cover & was on her second time through, but it was filled with notes, 30+tabs & highlights & came with a notepad with pages of observations & questions?
As I listened to her enthusiastic questions & attitude, I thought to myself, could this dear sister perhaps receive a calling in the near future?

Obviously Robert gives clear evidence of one who is anointed & is doing a wonderful job of assisting others in this waking process.
But how many more anointed brothers or sisters do we have among us? Do we have any idea?
Is there a previous thread where Robert or others have discussed these thoughts?
Any help or observations greatly appreciated!

The real anointed will be like the Angels cited here in Rev 22:8-9 Well I, John, was the one hearing and seeing these things. When I heard and saw them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing me these things. 9 But he tells me: “Be careful! Do not do that! I am only a fellow slave of you and of your brothers the prophets and of those observing the words of this scroll. Worship God.”

They do not want to cause stumbling as they are aware of the many instances in the past of humans wanting either a human leader or wanting to breed with fallen angels therefore it is safe to say that they will go by the same line of reasoning as Paul in 1 Cor 1:11-17 "For some from the house of Chloʹe have informed me regarding you, my brothers, that there are dissensions among you. 12 What I mean is this, that each one of you says: “I belong to Paul,” “But I to A·polʹlos,” “But I to Ceʹphas,” “But I to Christ.” 13 Is the Christ divided? Paul was not executed on the stake for you, was he? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? 14 I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crisʹpus and Gaʹius, 15 so that no one may say that you were baptized in my name. 16 Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephʹa·nas. As for the rest, I do not know whether I baptized anyone else. 17 For Christ sent me, not to baptize, but to declare the good news; and not with wisdom of speech, so that the torture stake of the Christ should not be made useless."

Paul wasn't looking for the glory which is why he said "I thank God I baptized none of you except Cris'pus and Ga'ius"

We can expect the anointed to remain hidden until Lord Jesus comes.

 

[Just woke up!]

The real anointed will be like the Angels cited here in Rev 22:8-9 Well I, John, was the one hearing and seeing these things. When I heard and saw them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing me these things. 9 But he tells me: “Be careful! Do not do that! I am only a fellow slave of you and of your brothers the prophets and of those observing the words of this scroll. Worship God.”

They do not want to cause stumbling as they are aware of the many instances in the past of humans wanting either a human leader or wanting to breed with fallen angels therefore it is safe to say that they will go by the same line of reasoning as Paul in 1 Cor 1:11-17 "For some from the house of Chloʹe have informed me regarding you, my brothers, that there are dissensions among you. 12 What I mean is this, that each one of you says: “I belong to Paul,” “But I to A·polʹlos,” “But I to Ceʹphas,” “But I to Christ.” 13 Is the Christ divided? Paul was not executed on the stake for you, was he? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? 14 I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crisʹpus and Gaʹius, 15 so that no one may say that you were baptized in my name. 16 Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephʹa·nas. As for the rest, I do not know whether I baptized anyone else. 17 For Christ sent me, not to baptize, but to declare the good news; and not with wisdom of speech, so that the torture stake of the Christ should not be made useless."

Paul wasn't looking for the glory which is why he said "I thank God I baptized none of you except Cris'pus and Ga'ius"

We can expect the anointed to remain hidden until Lord Jesus comes.

Indeed, Paul was not looking for Glory. However, he did not run & hide from the truth. Or from potential confrontation for standing up for the truth. None of those anointed with holy spirit in the first century did. They were full of spirit, brave & fearless fighters against the lie & defenders of truth.
Are we really to believe that the anointed are cowering in fear at present, "remaining hidden until Lord Jesus comes"? While many brave brothers, sisters, mothers, widows & orphans scattered throughout not only Jehovah's Witnesses but throughout the world are standing up against such satanic deceit.
It would appear more likely that not only has Jesus not arrived as yet, but nor has the holy spirit which anoints.

 

[TimeWrath]

Indeed, Paul was not looking for Glory. However, he did not run & hide from the truth. Or from potential confrontation for standing up for the truth. None of those anointed with holy spirit in the first century did. They were full of spirit, brave & fearless fighters against the lie & defenders of truth.
Are we really to believe that the anointed are cowering in fear at present, "remaining hidden until Lord Jesus comes"? While many brave brothers, sisters, mothers, widows & orphans scattered throughout not only Jehovah's Witnesses but throughout the world are standing up against such satanic deceit.
It would appear more likely that not only has Jesus not arrived as yet, but nor has the holy spirit which anoints.

They aren't cowards. They hide their identity to give unbias direction. They hide among the lowest ranks staying humble as they know their citizenship is not with the world, it is with Christ.

 

[kenmuldoon55]

Would that be the bear/dog or the woman?

 

[Brian]

Translation: At present, the choice of the slave is yet to come, it happens when Miguel throws Satan on Earth. In fact, it is the first task that the devil has after being thrown, to stand in the desert standing to look for and pursue that offspring of the woman. All those who have a heavenly call will be put to the test in the time of the end, but that does not mean that the devil's work begins there, it began centuries ago with Judas, for example and was successful by the way. The end of the life of the anointed of antiquity happened a long time ago. I wonder if any of them can be anointed without being tested, rather. In the wonderful letter of Ephesians in fact, after giving the keys to put on the spiritual armour to every Christian, the apostle Paul urges us in the scriptures to pray for them, for the saints, so that they pass the test and so that their ability to bear witness be as it should be (Ephesians 6:18-20). If we are urged to ask for something, it is because the opposite can happen and we must avoid it. I still feel that we do not know the real scope of the prayer every time I read these verses. So the heavenly call is something that more than giving you the assurance of being finally anointed and making you heir to reign with Michael, places a great target for our adversary to directly point to kill. We must be sure that you will not miss an opportunity and that when it is thrown down here, they will be your priority. Therefore, let's pray for them, so that they pass the test and their testimony is good. Not only will they be put to the test, but also... We also know the price we pay, just like you now, for giving testimony of Jesus within the people that bears the name of Jehovah. It's like the other way around the time in which our Lord was on Earth. Before they were considered blasphemies for saying that the Messiah had arrived, today they kick us out of the meetings for saying that it is not yet reigning. Place what is happening to you in the right position and raise your head, we are getting closer and closer to witnessing the glory of enthroned Miguel. Some will see that glory directly, others indirectly. But in the end, it will be the same glory!! May the name of Jehovah and Michael be blessed!!! Amen.

Bien dicho, el idioma Espanol es hermosa me encanta.
Brian

 

[Brian]

They aren't cowards. They hide their identity to give unbias direction. They hide among the lowest ranks staying humble as they know their citizenship is not with the world, it is with Christ.

TimeWrath I love the name timewrath it’s very intriguing!

They aren't cowards. They hide their identity to give unbias direction. They hide among the lowest ranks staying humble as they know their citizenship is not with the world, it is with Christ.

 

[Jahrule]

....

We know that the early bible students all considered themselves anointed. But was that not due to their all previously having come from churches all having the heavenly hope? And their incorrect presumption that Jesus had arrived & their calling up was imminent? I actually now begin to wonder whether many if any of them were actually anointed back then. Just as I have doubts about those within the WT at present that make such a claim.
Could you really be anointed, and yet fully support the satanic ploy of pharmakia & the Plandemic? Or even turn a blind eye to it all?

Given that the vast majority of Jehovah's witnesses (8 or 9 million of them) are refusing to wake up or at least stand up & speak out against the hypocrisy of the WT & GB, why is it falling upon the few stray sheep, mostly it appears with an earthly hope to stand up & challenge such?
Not that I personally am complaining. I count it a great privilege to speak the truth, regardless of the consequences.

But should not the anointed be at the forefront of those waking up & speaking out? Especially given that Jesus arrival is now actually imminent?
If the anointed have all been chosen by now, where are they?
Is it possible, that Jesus is waiting until shortly before, or even during his arrival to choose the remainder of his brothers?
Based on their response to the tests occurring at this time?
....

Would it really be out of character for Jah to find people outside the city gates to start the ball rolling? Many of the chosen may in fact be sleeping presently. The question being, are their sins willful or out of ignorance. That'll be the determining factor. They will take center stage eventually, but they need to be set on that path after certain conditions are met. It's possible a group of anointed will emerge somehow apart from the Org, ether after it falls or right before it falls. How exactly they will find each other is your best guess. If I had to guess it'll probably be some kind of online community that may serve as an orientation point for the confused. Who knows? Jah will gather his people together in the perfect way. It might start off small, but it could grow drastically after a certain point -- along with all the heat that woud bring. We'll just have to wait and see.