ANGLOAMERICA DID DANIEL MEAN THAT?

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DR74minus

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It's already explained, maybe wanting to be smart didn't allow you to read it. Anyway, like I said, I'm not wasting any more time with you. I'm not interested. May God help you

I wasn't interested in your interpretation and I read your interpretation. I wanted you to explain the evidence that "he (Daniel) is talking about something non-human" as regards "iron is not mixing with clay"
And the evidence is not in your interpretation. Feel free to explain how the scriptures make it "evident that he is talking about something non-human"

We got this far because your pride/lack of humility would not allow you to let it go. I'll leave you be.
 
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MickHewitt

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Is there not conjecture that AI could be the conduit of Demons? If so; how could it be solely a man's number? Yet saying that an angels measure of a cubit is the same as a mans! Rev 21:17. Ooooh! Isn't it intriguing?
Macron speaks out against U.S.A! Leaning towards China! 1Min in... 2 min 20 sec Chad expels German ambassador for meddling!
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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Is there not conjecture that AI could be the conduit of Demons? If so; how could it be solely a man's number? Yet saying that an angels measure of a cubit is the same as a mans! Rev 21:17. Ooooh! Isn't it intriguing?
Why would demons require artificial intelligence as a conduit when they can posses outright? Besides which, artificial intelligence is only as good as the knowledge that is fed into it, and if it has taken man 6000 years to come up with a simple hypersonic atom bomb, then I hardly think the demons will require our assistance. After all, they manufactured their own bodies before the flood. So far, all mankind has done is grow some protein cells. Besides, how much AI does one need to press a button? I see China is going to take advantage of the west needing their cooperation by invading Taiwan in the near future. If the west kicks up a fuss, then they make allies of Russia and China, and if they do nothing, it’s a walkover for China into Taiwan. If that isn’t artificial intelligence, then what is? !
 
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And who told you that AI is a "Help" from humans to demons? It is clear that the AI is knowledge brought by demons, and not genuine human creation. Demons can possess a person, but when the 8th king ascends to power, what's better? What convinces more? A possessed person or big technological and robotic tools? The masses must be dazzled, Satan will need to CONVINCE humanity, and humanity in ignorance of his designs sees transhumanism or AI as PROGRESS, and not as deception. there is the key
 

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And who told you that AI is a "Help" from humans to demons? It is clear that the AI is knowledge brought by demons, and not genuine human creation. Demons can possess a person, but when the 8th king ascends to power, what's better? What convinces more? A possessed person or big technological and robotic tools? The masses must be dazzled, Satan will need to CONVINCE humanity, and humanity in ignorance of his designs sees transhumanism or AI as PROGRESS, and not as deception. there is the key
Paul, I do not disagree with you that AI is a ploy of the demons to insert themselves into human affairs. Call it the ghost in the machine. My only point is that the symbolic iron of Bible prophecy represents the Roman Empire, which obviously existed long before computerized artificial intelligence, which then morphed into the British Empire and became mixed with clay - the common man represented by democracy. AI is a tool of the Empire, not the Empire itself.
 
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Paul, no estoy en desacuerdo contigo en que la IA es una estratagema de los demonios para meterse en los asuntos humanos. Llámalo el fantasma en la máquina. Mi único punto es que el hierro simbólico de la profecía bíblica representa el Imperio Romano, que obviamente existió mucho antes de la inteligencia artificial computarizada, que luego se transformó en el Imperio Británico y se mezcló con arcilla: el hombre común representado por la democracia. La IA es una herramienta del Imperio, no del Imperio en sí.
Sounds good to me Robert, but in this case he was responding to barnaby the dog's comment, nothing more.
 

DR74minus

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3 pages in, im trying to figure out if ANYTHING has been accomplished in this argument....for either party.

Why not join the argument and add another perspective. Everyone is allowed to express their views.
 
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kirmmy

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Why would demons require artificial intelligence as a conduit when they can posses outright? Besides which, artificial intelligence is only as good as the knowledge that is fed into it, and if it has taken man 6000 years to come up with a simple hypersonic atom bomb, then I hardly think the demons will require our assistance. After all, they manufactured their own bodies before the flood. So far, all mankind has done is grow some protein cells. Besides, how much AI does one need to press a button? I see China is going to take advantage of the west needing their cooperation by invading Taiwan in the near future. If the west kicks up a fuss, then they make allies of Russia and China, and if they do nothing, it’s a walkover for China into Taiwan. If that isn’t artificial intelligence, then what is? !
A demon possessed person can only affect so many. But then again...look at extremely wealth people like George Soros, Bill Gates, et al. On the other hand, a computer system that controls everything is a tempting target for them. And...it never dies. Look how ChatGPT is talked about everywhere now.

I'm still not sure they need/want computer tech to do their will but some here are convinced they can use it.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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A demon possessed person can only affect so many. But then again...look at extremely wealth people like George Soros, Bill Gates, et al. On the other hand, a computer system that controls everything is a tempting target for them. And...it never dies. Look how ChatGPT is talked about everywhere now.

I'm still not sure they need/want computer tech to do their will but some here are convinced they can use it.
I’m sure demonic influence will inveigle itself into AI. After all, it does in film, books, television and every thing else. Apparently it is even writing legal documents for court. How can a lawyer argue a case from issues he has not even written, yet depends on for his argument in law - and no one can see the plagiarism? The unqualified will qualify for positions of medical and mental care and the list of human catastrophe is just waiting to happen - and that is before the system gets hacked. It is a powerful weapon indeed - I underestimated it.
 

MickHewitt

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A demon possessed person can only affect so many. But then again...look at extremely wealth people like George Soros, Bill Gates, et al. On the other hand, a computer system that controls everything is a tempting target for them. And...it never dies. Look how ChatGPT is talked about everywhere now.

I'm still not sure they need/want computer tech to do their will but some here are convinced they can use it.
The demons have done well enough without AI till now. When Christ said 'He knew what was in man'...John 2:25..you can be sure it wasn't AI. Interesting though; is many ailments at the time were attributed to demonic possession? Even Paul's condition was described as a slap from Satan!
 
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Paul resiliente

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Una persona poseída por un demonio solo puede afectar a tantos. Pero, de nuevo... mira a las personas extremadamente ricas como George Soros, Bill Gates, et al. Por otro lado, un sistema informático que controla todo es un objetivo tentador para ellos. Y... nunca muere. Mira cómo se habla de ChatGPT en todas partes ahora.

Todavía no estoy seguro de que necesiten/quieran tecnología informática para hacer su voluntad, pero algunos aquí están convencidos de que pueden usarla.
How could the 8th king with the authority of the dragon have "Authority over every tribe, people, tongue and nation"? How precisely and punctually will the 666 mark be required? By what could she "Come to life, speak, and kill all who do not worship her" the idolatrous image that the masses will be required to build? How could the devil be able to test, during "The hour of trial that is coming on all the earth" if he is not having full control of each person? All these questions, at least to me, redirect me to one thing: A technocratic government, with the help of artificial intelligence and the direct collaboration of the "dragon". It is HIS MOMENT for him, to talk that he has with Jehovah in the days of Job about the loyalty of the human being to God and his motives, that talk will be magnified and extended worldwide and individually by each person. The sovereignty of the creator is in dispute and a rebellious idiot who insists on challenging the creator and will be given the opportunity to do so one last time and relentlessly to settle this issue. In fact, that is what the mark 666 implies: Either choose to extend for a little while more an EXTENSIVE MAKEUP IMPERFECTION, or suffer as Christ did and obtain the crown of life. In order to CLARIFY SUCH A UNIVERSAL QUESTION, I have no doubt that the best control and submission tools will be used, and AI is the main one.
 

DR74minus

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It is safe to say that Satan will use whatever means as is needed as he has done since he rebelled, to draw as many as he can away from Jehovah. It seems like he already has the world under his control, and it really doesn't matter how he does it. We just need to make sure we're not caught up in it. This far along in the race many of us already knows what we need to do keep ourselves separate from the world.

However we are human and must work at maintaining our stand. When Satan gets kicked out of heaven; his efforts will no doubt intensify against the woman's seed and by extension the other sheep. It is possible for us to maintain our focus, even keep an eye on how events are playing out in line with prophesy, and not get distracted.

Making up narratives about what is going down and trying to impose it onto scripture is a distraction, prehaps.
 
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Es seguro decir que Satanás usará cualquier medio que sea necesario como lo ha hecho desde que se rebeló, para alejar a tantos como pueda de Jehová. Parece que ya tiene el mundo bajo su control, y realmente no importa cómo lo haga. Solo tenemos que asegurarnos de no quedar atrapados en eso. A estas alturas de la carrera, muchos de nosotros ya sabemos lo que debemos hacer para mantenernos separados del mundo.

Sin embargo, somos humanos y debemos trabajar para mantener nuestra posición. Cuando Satanás es expulsado del cielo; sus esfuerzos sin duda se intensificarán contra la simiente de la mujer y por extensión contra las otras ovejas. Es posible para nosotros mantener nuestro enfoque, incluso vigilar cómo se desarrollan los eventos de acuerdo con la profecía, y no distraernos.

Inventar narraciones sobre lo que está pasando y tratar de imponerlo en las Escrituras es una distracción, tal vez.
"It looks like he already has the world under his control, and it really DOESN'T MATTER HOW HE DOES IT. WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET Caught Up In IT" // "It's possible for us to keep our focus, even keep an eye on how events unfold according to with the prophecy, and not be distracted"// What do you recommend to us at the end, professor? Doesn't it matter how Satan takes full control and at the same time you have to be attentive to events? The devil already controls the world but should we wait for him to be kicked out of heaven? I see a bit of comment in your contradiction.
 
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And who told you that AI is a "Help" from humans to demons? It is clear that the AI is knowledge brought by demons, and not genuine human creation. Demons can possess a person, but when the 8th king ascends to power, what's better? What convinces more? A possessed person or big technological and robotic tools? The masses must be dazzled, Satan will need to CONVINCE humanity, and humanity in ignorance of his designs sees transhumanism or AI as PROGRESS, and not as deception. there is the key
Here is a clip of the future of AI:

 
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