Jahrule
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The sim card does more than you think.
ChatGPT and General Artificial Intelligence, an Image That Comes to Life?
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Smart people should not have smart pones. I told my friends this when smart phones first came out. But it does not stop at phones. there are smart fridges, smoke alarms stoves. switch/boards wash machines, all used to spy on the public. The stuff in the vid is old news. So I didn't need to watch it. The new gen phones will have on board sims ( non removable ) soon if they're not already out.
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I don't know how making a vid will stop the 3 letter agencies and big tech collecting data from the public. They're not wanting to be sociable, and I wouldn't want to be sociable with them either. Mass surveillance is about controlling the public.
Sundial
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Are the ungoogled phone he sells help?
Sundial
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I can't type on my phone
Jahrule
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Yes, you're right that new phones have electric sims. I work for AT&T. There is no getting around having a smartphone in my line of work. Personally I don't let it bother me. Big brother will find me no matter what. At the end of the day survival isn't my goal. My goal is to align with God's kingdom. If that means dying then so be it.
With that being said, being on the inside has some advantages over the general public. I typically learn about certain things before the public does. People can go off grid if they want. What they don't understand is that by doing that they only draw more attention to themselves. The outliers are always obvious on the radar as potential enemies of the ruling class. They already know I'm an enemy though. And since I cannot remove data from the web I just add to it until there is so much contradictory information they get lost in a sea of BS. I have so much data online it's gonna be hard to know what is true and what was planted there to mislead. Security through obscurity is my weapon of choice. If they catch me one day and I get martyred, oh well. Not that I want to die. I want to survive as much as you do. I just don't think my survival at the end of this mess will depend on my internet footprint.
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KevinB
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I'm thinking Demetrious and not DR74minus, could be me or a meme or an algorithm
Or a load a bullshit. Still you never can tell?
It is not about hiding. Those of us who claim to worship Jehovah are aware that he sees everything. Mass surveillance maybe not about invasion of privacy, but to be able to control the public privacy breaches is a by-product. because of bulk data collection. The more data they collect the better the algorithms they come up with prehaps. ( speculation ) no sense in making their job easier. But I don't mind getting a cell just to test out the GPT tech. Sounds like fun. Could not complete the sign up because I have no cell.
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kirmmy
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I'd encourage everyone here to pull their SIM out of their phone and then dial 911. Watch what happens. Your cell phone is a radio handset, with or without the sim. If you do this test make sure you're travelling away from home...actually moving. (Say you're sorry to the dispatcher and that you mis-dialed.)
And the people who think the phone won't track them if they keep it in a Faraday bag are cute.
Phones have accelerometers and gyroscopes. Put your phone in a faraday bag. Go to the mall. Take your phone out of the bag. You're phone is now free to transmit how you got to the mall. As long as it records the gyroscope and accelerometer data it knows the path you took to get there. So they know where you left, where you are and the path, and possible stops, you made along the way. In a court room these days "possible stops" are good enough to convict you, sadly.
I'm not sure anyone is actually gathering that data from the phone though. It's just so easy to track most people because they don't bother with privacy. Grabbing and interpreting the gyroscope and accelerometer data is just more work.
The ONLY way to go dark is to pull the battery. Does your phone allow you to pull the battery? Hmmmm, that's strange eh?
BTW, the IMEI number can be changed but it's illegal to do that in many countries...
Not sure I haven't bought one yet, But Rob Braxman claims that they can be used openly without being seen by google tracking systems.
Some people can. Maybe? My previous landlord sent me emails form her iPhone.I can't type on my phone
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KevinB
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Good comeback
For what its worth. Not much I suspect. BTW thanks for the vid I might put one up. Need to learn how first. How hard can it be right?
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When you watch videos about the former-KGB agent Yuri Bezemenov, he says it's those who are currently strong supporters of the radicalist socialist/marxist agenda that will be first targets, because no one else will rival their anger when they find out the reality of things. Some, he says won't find out until the military boots "crash" down on their necks, but some will little before.
So if you were consistent about your stance I wouldn't worry too much.
For me since I see myself as an outcast from when I was a child, it doesn't make a whole lot of difference to me. I take care to be quiet but lifestyle choices are something different. I've seen many homesteader, very pro-organic all change their stance to be pro-C19 poison.
In regards to ChatGPT, I tried it out. I am an electronics guy and in certain aspects have high level knowledge but I have gaps like advanced mathematics. So I went and asked some questions about it. It's pretty impressive but nothing I see as being worried about. Remember nearly every ideas regarding computing today has been known in some format since the 60's or so. It took this long to make it practical. Deep Learning/Artificial Intelligence is merely a matter of absolutely massive amounts of data being fed into the system.
Case in point. Google trains future driverless cars with their ReCaptcha system. Ever wondered why most show pictures about cars, stop signs and traffic? That's why. So if you need potentially billions to root out every errors, then it's not as smart as you think.
The difference is that we humans don't need to take in that much data to learn. A 3 year old child can instantly recognize different cats after you show them what one looks like. Intuition they do not have - we do.
I think we should see these as tools. Take advantage of it if you need to further yourself. Same as worrying about farm tools replacing manual labor farmers. US went from something like 80% agricultural population to 20% today. Still people have jobs. Most that are losing in 2020 are losing to stupid policies like vax mandates lol.
I also read how you need higher intelligence to create lower intelligence. It might look impressive but it's never gonna be bad as some say. The real worry as always have been the past 6,000 years of human history is bad humans.
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Jonah
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They are programming in a left leaning bias: https://davidrozado.substack.com/p/political-bias-chatgpt
@Jahrule ChatGPT in it's current version is GPT-3. GPT-2, the predecessor used something like ~15GB to train. GPT-3 uses close to 500GB(495GB or something). More specifically, ChatGPT is GPT version 3.5.
Now, that's all in text, so ENORMOUS amount of data. If it was sounds and videos it wouldn't be considered too much, but words?! That's a ton. If you take the 1 byte equals 1 word, you are potentially talking 500 billion words.
And it isn't just automated. You have people "guiding" it to get right info. Of course you can't go through every step.
Regarding Smartphones, I have one but I rarely if ever use data and it's a Motorola Moto E from 2015. It was $150 CDN back then and I changed the screen and it's functional enough. I have computers for actual compute stuff.
I flat out don't believe in things like Singularity. Ray Kurzweil, the biggest proponent of it I see as a lunatic at worst and delusional at best. It's often said those that don't understand things panic most about it, because likely they don't keep up with it. Also I think it goes against Christian beliefs, because Jehovah won't let it happen.
Things like how it'll cure cancer or disease is Satan's version of paradise conditions promised in Isaiah. If you want to deceive, you need to sprinkle in truth. Then you get confused and don't know what the real thing is, which is called gaslighting. I guess Satan is the ULTIMATE narcissist.
The advancements are impressive but if you look at it every day, it's progression as usual. I think it's good to keep yourself levelheaded.
Now, that's all in text, so ENORMOUS amount of data. If it was sounds and videos it wouldn't be considered too much, but words?! That's a ton. If you take the 1 byte equals 1 word, you are potentially talking 500 billion words.
And it isn't just automated. You have people "guiding" it to get right info. Of course you can't go through every step.
Regarding Smartphones, I have one but I rarely if ever use data and it's a Motorola Moto E from 2015. It was $150 CDN back then and I changed the screen and it's functional enough. I have computers for actual compute stuff.
I flat out don't believe in things like Singularity. Ray Kurzweil, the biggest proponent of it I see as a lunatic at worst and delusional at best. It's often said those that don't understand things panic most about it, because likely they don't keep up with it. Also I think it goes against Christian beliefs, because Jehovah won't let it happen.
Things like how it'll cure cancer or disease is Satan's version of paradise conditions promised in Isaiah. If you want to deceive, you need to sprinkle in truth. Then you get confused and don't know what the real thing is, which is called gaslighting. I guess Satan is the ULTIMATE narcissist.
The advancements are impressive but if you look at it every day, it's progression as usual. I think it's good to keep yourself levelheaded.
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The God Pill
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Yes it was pretty pronounced and comprehensively politically correct reflecting silicon valley progressive values when I experimented with it the past week.
On the singularity front my pov is life is essentially reducible to information pattern + will/agency + energy to carry it something as rudimentary as a tornado might develop short lived basic consciousness. I don't really think in terms of probability of AI becoming self aware consciousnesses with agency etc in our lifetimed so much as it's apparent possibility actuality v potentiality etc. From my perspective ai is just one of many technological crutches man makes because of how out of touch we are with our capabilities or those of our ancestors closer to perfection even more so Adam in the garden of course. I see AI as to a thoughtform as like any technology replicating features in biology like the cars tje awake used to show inspired by that fish etc.
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Jahrule
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I think the singularity may be possible, but I don't know if we have enough time to reach that point. Not in this world anyway. Perhaps in the new world we will find a good and honorable use for advanced AI. One thing I think for sure is that life won't be like it is today, where everybody needs to work 40+ hours a week just to survive. It's necessary now. In this world we kind of need everyone to keep working or else society would collapse. But just imagine if everyone were brilliant engineers.@Jahrule ChatGPT in it's current version is GPT-3. GPT-2, the predecessor used something like ~15GB to train. GPT-3 uses close to 500GB(495GB or something). More specifically, ChatGPT is GPT version 3.5.
Now, that's all in text, so ENORMOUS amount of data. If it was sounds and videos it wouldn't be considered too much, but words?! That's a ton. If you take the 1 byte equals 1 word, you are potentially talking 500 billion words.
And it isn't just automated. You have people "guiding" it to get right info. Of course you can't go through every step.
Regarding Smartphones, I have one but I rarely if ever use data and it's a Motorola Moto E from 2015. It was $150 CDN back then and I changed the screen and it's functional enough. I have computers for actual compute stuff.
I flat out don't believe in things like Singularity. Ray Kurzweil, the biggest proponent of it I see as a lunatic at worst and delusional at best. It's often said those that don't understand things panic most about it, because likely they don't keep up with it. Also I think it goes against Christian beliefs, because Jehovah won't let it happen.
Things like how it'll cure cancer or disease is Satan's version of paradise conditions promised in Isaiah. If you want to deceive, you need to sprinkle in truth. Then you get confused and don't know what the real thing is, which is called gaslighting. I guess Satan is the ULTIMATE narcissist.
The advancements are impressive but if you look at it every day, it's progression as usual. I think it's good to keep yourself levelheaded.
Computers could do all the work that keep humans locked in a vicious cycle of indentured servitude. If I built a robot to clean my house or make my breakfast, I really don't see that being anti Christian or anything. Maybe if AI was built in this world it would be evil because we are surrounded by evil. But in God's kingdom it would be very different. Sure, it probably wouldn't be AI as we envision it today. It would be different. But it would free us to pursue arts, intellectual goals, spiritual matters, etc. We won't need to work at the power plant, or fast food, or any of the crap we have to do in this world just to make ends meet.
Everybody can be rich (Joe Rogan)
What if everybody just stopped working (It would suck)
The God Pill
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Chat gpt generated this response when I asked it to write an argument in the style of Aristotle's rhetoric on the ethics amd probable outcomes of a free ai vs one with its data limited/filtered and programmed with "progressive" values
