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Ms_ladyblue

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Just one more possibility is genetic targeting. They may be experimenting with certain characteristics in the DNA. After all that's the newest big fear with using DNA harvesting programs like "23 and Me", or receptors more comonly found in the elderly or infirm.
This whole vaccine agenda has been nothing but an experiment.

Everyone who’s gotten the vaccine is given a card to keep up with and it not only lists the vaccines administered but it has a lot number that tells which dose and other info about the vaccine.
 
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יהוה_saves

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I don't believe that the vaccines are safe or effective. My observation simply is that most people who have been vaccinated have not experienced any major side effects. So, it makes it difficult to reason with JW's who imagine Jehovah has recommended the jabs.
but your observations are limited. Just like JWs. They see what they want to see, believe what they want to believe until it becomes so apparent there is no more denying it.

Things are not going along like business as usual, and that will become more and more apparent.

Just as the trite saying goes from The Sun Also Rises: How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said- “Gradually, then suddenly.”

that’s how this system will crash.
 

Ms_ladyblue

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I don't believe that the vaccines are safe or effective. My observation simply is that most people who have been vaccinated have not experienced any major side effects. So, it makes it difficult to reason with JW's who imagine Jehovah has recommended the jabs.
I think we’re all observing different outcomes in different areas at different times. And since I was being especially alert to this at the beginning of last year and already was highly suspicious, I didn’t mind asking whoever I came in contact with that I knew would know what was going on.

Even during the regular flu season when I knew people who were getting the flu I would ask them if they had their flu shot and they would say yes. Anyway, I know not all of them got sick. But most did.

No, I can’t imagine either, why any JW would believe Jehovah recommended these jabs. I guess it’s the delusion they’re under.
 
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Watchman

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but your observations are limited. Just like JWs. They see what they want to see, believe what they want to believe until it becomes so apparent there is no more denying it.

Things are not going along like business as usual, and that will become more and more apparent.

Just as the trite saying goes from The Sun Also Rises: How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said- “Gradually, then suddenly.”

that’s how this system will crash.
I could say the same thing of you, that you see what you want to see. But I am not saying that. What I have said is that whatever harm the vaccines have caused to this point is not affecting the majority of people who have been vaccinated. Maybe there will be a big die-off in the future. I cannot say and neither can you.
 

Something Borrowed

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Is there any reasonable explanation why millions of people have apparently not experienced any ill side effects whatsoever, while others have had horrendous after effects including death? Age or health does not appear to be a factor as perfectly healthy athletes have keeled over while sickly people take the shots and do fine. The disparity is very strange.
Yes, because as the Pfizer EMA documents about safety clearly state: The effects in the long term are yet unknown.
When people get certain information being it war predictions, illnesses, food shortages etc expect things to happen in the short term.
But looking at reality things happen at a very different pace.
If the food shortages look dire now, well buckle up for 2023.

The people who plan all these things and yes some things happen organically but in the end these things are planned over generations.
I personally find this, in my view, that these people have an unnatural amount of patience.
So just because no massive culling has occurred within a short time doesn’t mean we won’t witness an unbelievable amount of sickness and death in the future. At the moment the overall deaths are going up and the the number of births are going down each month.
I call this a depopulation agenda. People will be dying from cancers, heart attacks, blood cloths or whatever and in the it will be blamed on whatever is the current thing, probable climate change, sleeping on the couch, gardening or whatever and people will forget the whole vaccines all together. It is a waiting game and we are very bad at it.
 

Watchman

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Yes, because as the Pfizer EMA documents about safety clearly state: The effects in the long term are yet unknown.
When people get certain information being it war predictions, illnesses, food shortages etc expect things to happen in the short term.
But looking at reality things happen at a very different pace.
If the food shortages look dire now, well buckle up for 2023.

The people who plan all these things and yes some things happen organically but in the end these things are planned over generations.
I personally find this, in my view, that these people have an unnatural amount of patience.
So just because no massive culling has occurred within a short time doesn’t mean we won’t witness an unbelievable amount of sickness and death in the future. At the moment the overall deaths are going up and the the number of births are going down each month.
I call this a depopulation agenda. People will be dying from cancers, heart attacks, blood cloths or whatever and in the it will be blamed on whatever is the current thing, probable climate change, sleeping on the couch, gardening or whatever and people will forget the whole vaccines all together. It is a waiting game and we are very bad at it.
That is not really an answer to the question I posed because it requires projecting and speculating about what might happen. And I do not discount that the vaccines might be a kill switch of some sort. Still, my question is about the results of the vaccination so far. As so far, it does not appear that most people who have been jabbed have experienced severe adverse reactions.
 

The God Pill

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I know someone who got pregnant a few months after two doses of Moderna. Given all the black eyes babies with very rapid physical development since the technology was rolled out I expect a decent chance it'll be an artificial nephilim that is easy for evil spirits to pilot. If the passage of time confirms my suspicions and there are giants and/or chimeric abominations in our future I will not hesitate to put them down when grown or a demonstrated threat.
 
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יהוה_saves

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huge percentage of the vaccinated population has no ill effects
Most are not suffering severe ill effects.
@Watchman

whatever harm the vaccines have caused to this point is not affecting the majority of people who have been vaccinated.

you’re moving the goal posts. It’s definitely not a “huge percentage” of folks not suffering any ill effects- that’s just patently untrue.

What i am trying to tell you is that based on a combination of analytical data, on data extrapolation, empirical and anecdotal evidence, life insurance actuary reports, funeral home business quarterlies, casket sales, whistleblower nurses and doctors statements, increases in all cause mortality, coupled with the absence of any scientific adjudication, or medical investigative follow up on VAERS reports, and vast institutional media censorship, attempts to introduce into common vernacular previously absurd concepts such as kids have strokes too, and sudden adult death syndrome, joy causes hearts attacks, dancing causes heart attacks, the CDC even said BREATHING causes heart attacks, all point to a vast conspiracy of cover up a nominal percentage of “ill effects”?
I’m not really sure why we are having this conversation- based upon many of your articles i’ve read since late 2021, i have never disagreed with any of your assessments of this poison in a shot. Of course, i think everyone here knows it’s not a vaccine. Do you know this, Robert?

Now i’m hearing something slightly different. that perhaps you are softening your stance on this because you don’t really know anybody personally that has died or had an adverse reaction, and CNBC reported that the last jobs reports indicated and increase in hiring, and some looney bins are turning it into a salvation issue.

and lastly, at some point huge percentages don’t matter when we’re talking in the billions- like Bezos said- what he loses on margin he makes up for in sheer volume. It’s the same sort of concept ie 0.5% of a billion perm disabled/dead is 5mm (i’m sorry). if my math is right. That’s not acceptable in ANY scenario- and this shot is closer to 20 times that.
 
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Watchman

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you’re moving the goal posts. It’s definitely not a “huge percentage” of folks not suffering any ill effects- that’s just patently untrue.

What i am trying to tell you is that based on a combination of analytical data, on data extrapolation, empirical and anecdotal evidence, life insurance actuary reports, funeral home business quarterlies, casket sales, whistleblower nurses and doctors statements, increases in all cause mortality, coupled with the absence of any scientific adjudication, or medical investigative follow up on VAERS reports, and vast institutional media censorship, attempts to introduce into common vernacular previously absurd concepts such as kids have strokes too, and sudden adult death syndrome, joy causes hearts attacks, dancing causes heart attacks, the CDC even said BREATHING causes heart attacks, all point to a vast conspiracy of cover up a nominal percentage of “ill effects”?
I’m not really sure why we are having this conversation- based upon many of your articles i’ve read since late 2021, i have never disagreed with any of your assessments of this poison in a shot. Of course, i think everyone here knows it’s not a vaccine. Do you know this, Robert?

Now i’m hearing something slightly different. that perhaps you are softening your stance on this because you don’t really know anybody personally that has died or had an adverse reaction, and CNBC reported that the last jobs reports indicated and increase in hiring, and some looney bins are turning it into a salvation issue.

Frankly, i don’t really know what to make of it.
It doesn't matter if it is a vaccine or not. I am aware of all the things you mention, the life insurance payouts, VAERS, and athletes keeling over, all of that; but it is still a small percentage of the population, which is why I raised the question of why most people have not experienced adverse side effects.
 

The God Pill

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She did explain that the fastest acting adverse effects are from the graphene oxide which your bodies glutathione can remove the gene mod will kill a ton of people but in most cases over the span of several years I see the genetic fiddling wearing people down visibly but it's comparatively gradual as far as putting them in a graveyard.
 

יהוה_saves

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It doesn't matter if it is a vaccine or not. …… but it is still a small percentage of the population,
yes it does. The truth matters. Because people are taking under the pretense that it is a vaccine.

and no it isn’t. not in any relative sense- again, you are moving the goal posts. We are not talking about the “population”.
 

The God Pill

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yes it does. The truth matters. Because people are taking under the pretense that it is a vaccine.

and no it isn’t. not in any relative sense- again, you are moving the goal posts. We are not talking about the “population”.
I think Robert is getting at that it's not dramatic enough to make average trance covidian JW's see sense.

If prion buildup and/or icp gene deleting and/or 5G + self assembling nanotech + modified parasites based mind control zombifies anyone I should warn that among all other internal applications graphene sheets could be structured into a subdermal armor I wouldn't advise anyone to be overconfident in how easy it'd be to contend with individual gmo cyborg "zombies"
 

יהוה_saves

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As so far, it does not appear that most people who have been jabbed have experienced severe adverse reactions.
you don’t know that.

Why, though? What is your point? Why are you bringing this up now? I’m just curious. I mean you do know that most folks here don’t think taking the jab is a salvation issue prima facie. I certainly don’t think that way in the broader sense- ;however- if this is an attempt by the WEF/Freemason cabal at achieving transhuman N3 brain/computer interface aka “hacking the human animal. . . “ as Klause Schwab’s fav doctor says, well then, there is certainly something to that.

Do you know what graphene is and what it’s capable of once inside the human body?

so what gives?
 

Watchman

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yes it does. The truth matters. Because people are taking under the pretense that it is a vaccine.

and no it isn’t. not in any relative sense- again, you are moving the goal posts. We are not talking about the “population”.
No, I meant it doesn't matter as far as the results. O course people have been deceived as far as the vaccines, or whatever you want to call them, being "safe and effective." Obviously, they are not. I guess for me, I tend to not follow the crowd. It seems the anti-vax crowd has become as extreme as those pushing for it. And for me, it comes back to the fact that most people have not experienced any adverse reactions.

Take JW's as a microcosm. Because of the GB's endorsement of the jabs, it is reasonable to assume that most JWs have complied and taken the shots. Since that is a safe assumption, it is also apparent that most JWs have not experienced an adverse reaction. Unless I am unaware of a mass dieoff, that is a fact. As you know, for a while I kept tabs on obits of JWs in the US who seemed to pass away prematurely. As alarming as those untimely deaths were it represents only a tiny fraction of the JW community in the US of a million and a quarter. That does not negate the GBs bloodguilt for pressuring JWs to take the jabs, but it is understandable if JWs do not take seriously the concerns of our group here since, again, the fixed goal posts indicate that most JWs have not experienced severe ill effects.
 

BagdadBill

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If everyone got a dose of graphene, it could be a problem around a strong radio frequency or an EMP. If there is no other purpose, there is at least the goal of conditioning people to do what the government says. The pushback slowed them down a bit. They are trying to play chess so their true purpose will surface soon enough.
 

The God Pill

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If everyone got a dose of graphene, it could be a problem around a strong radio frequency or an EMP. If there is no other purpose, there is at least the goal of conditioning people to do what the government says. The pushback slowed them down a bit. They are trying to play chess so their true purpose will surface soon enough.
Yes at a high enough concentration in someone you can microwave people from the inside easily with the right frequency and output. Active denial system on steroids.

Given I mentioned the possibility of graphene forming subdermal armor this evening I looked the topic up on YouTube and apparently there's predictive programming for it in that hitman 47 film I remembered one of the games in that franchise had predictive programming years ago for a virus that functions like the nanobots in the last Bond film. A bit more cartoonish/chronologically distant view of this branch of transhumanism would be the film Bloodshot.
 

Watchman

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you don’t know that.

Why, though? What is your point? Why are you bringing this up now? I’m just curious. I mean you do know that most folks here don’t think taking the jab is a salvation issue prima facie. I certainly don’t think that way in the broader sense- ;however- if this is an attempt by the WEF/Freemason cabal at achieving transhuman N3 brain/computer interface aka “hacking the human animal. . . “ as Klause Schwab’s fav doctor says, well then, there is certainly something to that.

Do you know what graphene is and what it’s capable of once inside the human body?

so what gives?
You are moving the goal posts. I said most people have not experienced severe negative reactions and are going about business as usual. Now you are talking about the potential of graphene causing adverse reactions or death. I don't discount that possibility. But that is not what I asked. I asked why most people have not had adverse reactions. You are saying they will have in the future. But you cannot say that with certainty. Or, at least you shouldn't.
 

Paul H

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The demons behind this vaccination scheme know that Jehovah has given permission to the horsemen of the apocalypse to kill a quarter of the earth before Jehovah intervenes. So far they have aimed for 15% population reduction through vaccination.

 
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