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The God Pill

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Yes this is the case. We live in an age of information thanks to the internet. In times past ideas were spread through newspapers, TV, & radio. Posters with propaganda (e.g. the Uncle Sam's I Want You In the U.S. Army) or advertisements have an effect on people where the goal is to get the people to react a certain way. Consider the ministry, the meme is the Gospel & the memetic agent is the Christian. Some people told stories around the campfire in order to give a message of some sort.

However, not everyone is the same & will have different reactions to certain forms of information. I think that some of the memes used are possibly twofold if not more in their purpose. One idea comes to mind is the Left vs Right dichotomy. The meme used can outrage one side while appealing to the other in order to keep the dichotomy ongoing. IIRC, the word meme came from Richard Dawkins when he explained how ideas are similar to genetics. Ideas that succeed are passed along the generations (like genes). If the idea does this it can spread far & wide where it affects the public perception on matters. I think it's why Donald Trump won against Hillary Clinton during the Presidential campaign.
When you think about it, it's a great tool for psychological warfare. There's a term called memetic warfare where there was many misinformation campaigns by certain agencies.

Check out the PDF on Info hazards! It's pretty handy to look into.
I delved into this field of research back in 2016 for several years I've called the left meme slaves and absolutists gene slaves.
 

Nomex

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there she is! she emerges from her hyatis for a fight.
@Driven
Whatever conflict is going on between you and Driven please keep it private.
As two people that I am really happy to have met since finding RK and his site, whatever is going on really breaks my heart to see this conflict, but Robert is 100% right this should be dealt with in private.

I will say this however. Please remember we all do and say things we shouldn't, but also remember Jehovah see's us as we can be when we are perfect, we see each other as we are right now, the bitter reality of our imperfect current state. I'll just leave it at that, it's really none of my business beyond that.
 

Jess

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It may seem like they are not affected but sadly its ramping up for sure. None here were Witnesses, but Here is a recap of how the COVID vaccine impacted my weekend:

1. Friday night in the middle of hosting an event for my daughter, my husband gets a text "CALL ME NOW". One of our closest friend's 20 year-old son collapsed in the middle of a hockey practice. He uttered some confusing words, arms went numb, seized, collapsed and went into a coma. He is still in the hospital and Doctors say they "Still don't know what it could be".

2. Also Friday night, we got a call to take care of my neighbors' dogs. The wife had to go into an emergency C-section 4 weeks early because they feared the baby was being starved to death by a clot in the cord.

3. Sunday night, I brought dinner to my neighbor whose Dad died at age 65 suddenly at home alone last week. She had to have the sheriff break in his house because of reports his trash can had been in the road for a few days after trash day. While I sat in her living room, she cried and cried and said "I don't understand, he was in perfect health. All his numbers were always good. The only thing we can think of is the COVID vaccine because he said he had been feeling terrible ever since he got it a year ago".

I fear this is only the tip of the iceberg 😭
 

Brother potato

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It may seem like they are not affected but sadly its ramping up for sure. None here were Witnesses, but Here is a recap of how the COVID vaccine impacted my weekend:

1. Friday night in the middle of hosting an event for my daughter, my husband gets a text "CALL ME NOW". One of our closest friend's 20 year-old son collapsed in the middle of a hockey practice. He uttered some confusing words, arms went numb, seized, collapsed and went into a coma. He is still in the hospital and Doctors say they "Still don't know what it could be".

2. Also Friday night, we got a call to take care of my neighbors' dogs. The wife had to go into an emergency C-section 4 weeks early because they feared the baby was being starved to death by a clot in the cord.

3. Sunday night, I brought dinner to my neighbor whose Dad died at age 65 suddenly at home alone last week. She had to have the sheriff break in his house because of reports his trash can had been in the road for a few days after trash day. While I sat in her living room, she cried and cried and said "I don't understand, he was in perfect health. All his numbers were always good. The only thing we can think of is the COVID vaccine because he said he had been feeling terrible ever since he got it a year ago".

I fear this is only the tip of the iceberg 😭
https://archive.org/details/father-abuses-pharmacist-after-son-has-myocarditis-caused-by-covid-jab Language warning
 

Yupyup_yup

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"Peace and Security"


Could it be the covid "safe and effective" Claim that ran around the world for over 2 years now


I THINK SO...

Please somebody prove me wrong




Reference Bible (Rbi8)
1 Thessalonians 5:3
Whenever it is that they are saying: “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them just as the pang of distress upon a pregnant woman; and they will by no means escape.

King James Version (bi10)
1 Thessalonians 5:3
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

American Standard Version (bi22)
1 Thessalonians 5:3
When they are saying, Peace and safety, then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall in no wise escape

Byington (by)
1 Thessalonians 5:3
When they say “peace and safety,” then destruction is upon them suddenly, as the birth-pang comes upon a pregnant woman, and they shall not escape.

Rotherham (rh)
1 Thessalonians 5:3
As soon as they begin to say—Peace! and safety! Then suddenly upon them cometh destruction,—Just as the birth-throe unto her that is with child,—And in nowise shall they escape.

NLV
3When people are saying, “Everything is peaceful and secure,” then disaster will fall on them as suddenly as a pregnant woman’s labor pains begin. And there will be no escape


Contemporary English Version
People will think they are safe and secure. But destruction will suddenly strike them like the pains of a woman about to give birth. And they won't escape

Good News Translation
When people say, "Everything is quiet and safe," then suddenly destruction will hit them! It will come as suddenly as the pains that come upon a woman in labor, and people will not escape.


Young's Literal Translation
for when they may say, Peace and surety, then sudden destruction doth stand by them, as the travail doth her who is with child, and they shall not escape
 
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The God Pill

Well-known member
"Peace and Security"


Could it be the covid "safe and effective" Claim that ran around the world for over 2 years now


I THINK SO...

Please somebody prove me wrong




Reference Bible (Rbi8)
1 Thessalonians 5:3
Whenever it is that they are saying: “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them just as the pang of distress upon a pregnant woman; and they will by no means escape.

King James Version (bi10)
1 Thessalonians 5:3
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

American Standard Version (bi22)
1 Thessalonians 5:3
When they are saying, Peace and safety, then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall in no wise escape

Byington (by)
1 Thessalonians 5:3
When they say “peace and safety,” then destruction is upon them suddenly, as the birth-pang comes upon a pregnant woman, and they shall not escape.

Rotherham (rh)
1 Thessalonians 5:3
As soon as they begin to say—Peace! and safety! Then suddenly upon them cometh destruction,—Just as the birth-throe unto her that is with child,—And in nowise shall they escape.

NLV
3When people are saying, “Everything is peaceful and secure,” then disaster will fall on them as suddenly as a pregnant woman’s labor pains begin. And there will be no escape


Contemporary English Version
People will think they are safe and secure. But destruction will suddenly strike them like the pains of a woman about to give birth. And they won't escape

Good News Translation
When people say, "Everything is quiet and safe," then suddenly destruction will hit them! It will come as suddenly as the pains that come upon a woman in labor, and people will not escape.


Young's Literal Translation
for when they may say, Peace and surety, then sudden destruction doth stand by them, as the travail doth her who is with child, and they shall not escape
Surety is a legal term probably worth looking into that rendering in Young's.
 

Yupyup_yup

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Surety is a legal term probably worth looking into that rendering in Young's.
Insight on the Scriptures, Volume 2

Surety

SURETY Security for the fulfillment of an obligation; a pledge, guaranty, or bond; one who has made himself responsible for another. The psalmist appealed to Jehovah to act as his “surety,” protecting him from defrauders.—Ps 119:122.

Justin Trudeau said the vaccines were an obligation to our fellow Canadians


This is the peace and security speech for the century in my book
 

Ms_ladyblue

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It may seem like they are not affected but sadly its ramping up for sure. None here were Witnesses, but Here is a recap of how the COVID vaccine impacted my weekend:

1. Friday night in the middle of hosting an event for my daughter, my husband gets a text "CALL ME NOW". One of our closest friend's 20 year-old son collapsed in the middle of a hockey practice. He uttered some confusing words, arms went numb, seized, collapsed and went into a coma. He is still in the hospital and Doctors say they "Still don't know what it could be".

2. Also Friday night, we got a call to take care of my neighbors' dogs. The wife had to go into an emergency C-section 4 weeks early because they feared the baby was being starved to death by a clot in the cord.

3. Sunday night, I brought dinner to my neighbor whose Dad died at age 65 suddenly at home alone last week. She had to have the sheriff break in his house because of reports his trash can had been in the road for a few days after trash day. While I sat in her living room, she cried and cried and said "I don't understand, he was in perfect health. All his numbers were always good. The only thing we can think of is the COVID vaccine because he said he had been feeling terrible ever since he got it a year ago".

I fear this is only the tip of the iceberg 😭
That is so sad to hear @Jess
I know that you must feel very bad for them. Just me reading it almost made me want to cry! 😭

This is all too much to take in. And just the tip of the iceberg!!!
This is a nightmare! I keep thinking about my daughter and my grandson. It’s been a little over a year since she and her husband had the sec shot.

She told me back in October they planned on getting my grandson this shot. I begged her not too. So I don’t even know now if they did nor do I know if they got boosters. As I have said they’ve been shunning me since February or March.
 

Ms_ladyblue

Well-known member
Insight on the Scriptures, Volume 2

Surety

SURETY Security for the fulfillment of an obligation; a pledge, guaranty, or bond; one who has made himself responsible for another. The psalmist appealed to Jehovah to act as his “surety,” protecting him from defrauders.—Ps 119:122.

Justin Trudeau said the vaccines were an obligation to our fellow Canadians


This is the peace and security speech for the century in my book
I BELIEVE THAT EVERYTHING THAT CAME OUT OF TRUDEAU’S MOUTH IS A LIE!!F3A906DB-C5AB-4EE2-AB69-0C3E997AA003.jpeg
 

יהוה_saves

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these stories are heartbreaking- Thank goodness there are still plenty of compassionate folks here in this thread to bring these issues to our consciousnesses, not to minimize these issues, and to be a voice for those who are being censored and marginalized.

What matters most is the pain and suffering these shots have already caused, are causing and will continue to cause, real human beings, ESPECIALLY our JW brethren.

I hope nobody loses sight of that over some austere set of numerical statistics that mean nothing, because this chain of events is anything but played out. It’s really only begun.

it bears repeating- everyone, EVERYONE, who got the real, genuine, mRNA shot is now and indefinitely (till Jah comes) an artificial-pathogen-producing/shedding factory. Their genome has been tampered with and it is not reversible. For freaks sake, is that not bad enough? SMH.
 
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