Do JW's think the GB are communicating directly with Jehovah?

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AnnaNana

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Jehovah is not partial. Jesus showed us the way to the Father. "Let the little children come to me."

"Little children, keep yourselves from idols."

Men who teach doctrines to draw away the disciples after themselves set themselves up as idols and become lawless ones and anti-christs.

Jehovah is sending Jesus to break down the walls built by the Devil and his sons. Let the light shine.

"They are stumbling because they are disobedient to the word. To this very end they were appointed. But you are “a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession, that you should declare abroad the excellencies” of the One who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light."

Our being adequately qualified to be ambassadors of the sacred secret comes from God. Those loving the light will listen. Those who love darkness will hate the truth. "By their fruits you will recognize them."

"I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.”
 
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Jehovahsloyalchild

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It just amazes me how absolutely blind and oblivious people are. No idea at all who Jehovah is...zero connection or relationship at all and that is evident by the fact so many can't even comprehend what Jehovah purpose and intention always was...that never changed it was just temporarily halted...do people think Jehovah just threw up his hands and said nevetmind about the beautiful earth I created for mankind now all humans will become angels I need more angels...nevermind about my human creations or all the hard work that went into creating a beautiful world for them to inhabit...oh ya and nevetmid about all the times I mention that the earth will stand til time indefinite and the meek will live forever on it...oh ya also just forget about the Lords prayer it was all a joke yes all a joke your rapture is coming guys get ready to take flight...
Jehovah must think some people are just completely gone out to lunch like no common sense no logic whatsoever abd definitely no FAITH
 
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AnnaNana

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"Who is blind except my servant,
So deaf as the messenger I send?
Who is so blind as the one rewarded,
So blind as the servant of Jehovah?"

Yes, the scriptures show that many are blind.

Jehovah made the earth to be inhabited forever.
He made the angels to live in heaven.
He made men to live on the earth.
Jehovah's purpose hasn't changed.

The 144,000 are a new creation. They will live in heaven.
Jehovah can visit the earth.
He is the Father. He loves all his kids.

A Father wants the kids to interact.
Angels can materialize.
Jesus could make a body even after he was resurrected as a mighty spirit creature. Many on earth saw him after his resurrection.

"Can He who made an ear not hear? Can He who made the eye not see?"
Can He who made a spirit be able to materialize not do the same?

Jehovah Will Become Whatsoever He Chooses To Become.

God is not partial. He will visit and hang out with his kids on earth because He Is Jehovah.

Praise Jah!
 
SusanB

SusanB

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AnnaNana said:
"Who is blind except my servant,
So deaf as the messenger I send?
Who is so blind as the one rewarded,
So blind as the servant of Jehovah?"

Yes, the scriptures show that many are blind.

Jehovah made the earth to be inhabited forever.
He made the angels to live in heaven.
He made men to live on the earth.
Jehovah's purpose hasn't changed.

The 144,000 are a new creation. They will live in heaven.
Jehovah can visit the earth.
He is the Father. He loves all his kids.

A Father wants the kids to interact.
Angels can materialize.
Jesus could make a body even after he was resurrected as a mighty spirit creature. Many on earth saw him after his resurrection.

"Can He who made an ear not hear? Can He who made the eye not see?"
Can He who made a spirit be able to materialize not do the same?

Jehovah Will Become Whatsoever He Chooses To Become.

God is not partial. He will visit and hang out with his kids on earth because He Is Jehovah.

Praise Jah!
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It kind of seems like you aren’t commenting on a particular thread to join in a discussion of the topic but you are taking the opportunity to preach on whatever topic you want to talk about. Why is that? Who are you and what is your agenda? Having a discussion is very different from preaching at people, even if some of what you say is true.
 
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goldie

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Driven said:
It kind of seems like you aren’t commenting on a particular thread to join in a discussion of the topic but you are taking the opportunity to preach on whatever topic you want to talk about. Why is that? Who are you and what is your agenda? Having a discussion is very different from preaching at people, even if some of what you say is true.
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Same thought
 
The God Pill

The God Pill

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Have to disagree on the claims of there being all these examples you claim as theophanies in any sense beyond the father indwelling via his spirit in his agent Christ. By the way Justin Martyr in dialogue with trypho identified all those OT appearances as the son representing his father he felt that even if we ignore the scriptures statement no man has seen god at any time that given how powerful the father is him appearing at Sinai or anywhere if not outright destroying the earth would at least have a discernibly monumental effect everyone on earth would be aware something significant is happening. I think that's an understatement I'm not confident the omniverse external to him could survive or at least remain recognizable if something like that occurred. By the way Jacob identifies his Elohim towards the end of Genesis as an angel. God can talk to you directly if he wishes when we are granted that privilege and he can certainly interface with us through someone acting as a proxy, of course one can see him in visions but when it comes to observing him directly his glory is so great even the angels can only see him through their minds eye not whatever they have analogous to our two eyes after all the seraphim have to cover their faces. It seems like only christ and the ressurected 144k can see him as he is outside of visions. I'm not trying to imply any relational distance a direct theophany would just likely be a very destabilizing event from a physics pov. We will feel no distance in the slightest because the spirit of both the father and that of the son will indwell all faithful intelligent life in the future in a bond of hesed as christ restores the eternal covenant of peace that Adam violated.
 
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AnnaNana

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I am a member of the anointed remnant sharing a message of truth with whoever wants to listen. I was a victim of abuse and when I reported it to the elder body they protected the abuser and started taking away "privileges" from me and my baptized children. We would not say "Amen" to the prayers of the hypocritical elders so they banned us from Zoom meetings. We attempted to go to a few other halls but were "chased" around the circuit with unkind letters from the previous elder bodies. Upon returning to our initial hall, I warned other members about the abuser and was banned from meetings. (They called it "your privilege of attending meetings has been revoked. Then they got a restraining order against me, although I had never even talked about what happened publicly at the hall, only in emails to other members.) Finally I was disfellowshipped for "reviling and causing divisions" of which I am not guilty. After leaving, I have come to see that many of the doctrines taught by the organization are false. I am clunky when it comes to communicating on a forum, but I know if Jehovah reveals something it is obligatory to share it with others and that is what I was trying to do. I don't mean to derail a conversation and I do not have any "agenda" except to share what was shared with me. Hope you all have a nice day.
 
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Melinda

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AnnaNana said:
I am a member of the anointed remnant sharing a message of truth with whoever wants to listen. I was a victim of abuse and when I reported it to the elder body they protected the abuser and started taking away "privileges" from me and my baptized children. We would not say "Amen" to the prayers of the hypocritical elders so they banned us from Zoom meetings. We attempted to go to a few other halls but were "chased" around the circuit with unkind letters from the previous elder bodies. Upon returning to our initial hall, I warned other members about the abuser and was banned from meetings. (They called it "your privilege of attending meetings has been revoked. Then they got a restraining order against me, although I had never even talked about what happened publicly at the hall, only in emails to other members.) Finally I was disfellowshipped for "reviling and causing divisions" of which I am not guilty. After leaving, I have come to see that many of the doctrines taught by the organization are false. I am clunky when it comes to communicating on a forum, but I know if Jehovah reveals something it is obligatory to share it with others and that is what I was trying to do. I don't mean to derail a conversation and I do not have any "agenda" except to share what was shared with me. Hope you all have a nice day.
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Welcome Anna! Your story is heartbreaking...We all carry our wounds...Its our love for Jehovah that we are all here and I am glad you are here with us. I look forward to reading your comments. Hugs!
 
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Eventhorizon

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AnnaNana said:
I am a member of the anointed remnant sharing a message of truth with whoever wants to listen. I was a victim of abuse and when I reported it to the elder body they protected the abuser and started taking away "privileges" from me and my baptized children. We would not say "Amen" to the prayers of the hypocritical elders so they banned us from Zoom meetings. We attempted to go to a few other halls but were "chased" around the circuit with unkind letters from the previous elder bodies. Upon returning to our initial hall, I warned other members about the abuser and was banned from meetings. (They called it "your privilege of attending meetings has been revoked. Then they got a restraining order against me, although I had never even talked about what happened publicly at the hall, only in emails to other members.) Finally I was disfellowshipped for "reviling and causing divisions" of which I am not guilty. After leaving, I have come to see that many of the doctrines taught by the organization are false. I am clunky when it comes to communicating on a forum, but I know if Jehovah reveals something it is obligatory to share it with others and that is what I was trying to do. I don't mean to derail a conversation and I do not have any "agenda" except to share what was shared with me. Hope you all have a nice day.
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Wow... So sorry to hear about all of that. Indeed it will be much better when the former things have passed away...

Welcome
 
SusanB

SusanB

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AnnaNana said:
I am a member of the anointed remnant sharing a message of truth with whoever wants to listen. I was a victim of abuse and when I reported it to the elder body they protected the abuser and started taking away "privileges" from me and my baptized children. We would not say "Amen" to the prayers of the hypocritical elders so they banned us from Zoom meetings. We attempted to go to a few other halls but were "chased" around the circuit with unkind letters from the previous elder bodies. Upon returning to our initial hall, I warned other members about the abuser and was banned from meetings. (They called it "your privilege of attending meetings has been revoked. Then they got a restraining order against me, although I had never even talked about what happened publicly at the hall, only in emails to other members.) Finally I was disfellowshipped for "reviling and causing divisions" of which I am not guilty. After leaving, I have come to see that many of the doctrines taught by the organization are false. I am clunky when it comes to communicating on a forum, but I know if Jehovah reveals something it is obligatory to share it with others and that is what I was trying to do. I don't mean to derail a conversation and I do not have any "agenda" except to share what was shared with me. Hope you all have a nice day.
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Thank you for sharing your story and my heart aches for all who are victims of abuse and injustice. I hear you.
 
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