My journey journey thru the New World Translation

Melinda

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I wanted to start a thread about my journey with my husband that started on Jan 1st where every morning I push play and we listen to 5 chapters of the Bible. I should of started this thread from the beginning. There has been a lot of drama along the way. You can google my husband CSM Ronald Riling he had a 32 year Army career. My husband has never had any bible knowledge even though he was brought up in the catholic church. I have always said my husband is a blank sheet of paper when it comes to the bible. The day we started our journey...my biggest obstacle was the use of Jehovah's name. That was a BIG day I mean A BIG DAY... however I won! Thats all that matters. After I presented the evidence about Jehovah's name he totally got it and he was good with the NWT. Today was another obstacle....we finished the book of Psalms this morning....he was packing for a trip and he was looking for something and he went thru a closet where he saw where I had put a very expensive Waterford Chrystal cross that had been given to him by a very important mentor of his....he came into the bedroom and said..he was holding the cross...he said hey..Why is this expensive Waterford Cross in the back on this closet. I said I don't want it on display. He said Why? I said because it's pagan. You should of seen the look on his face. He was upset! He put the cross back where I had it and he didn't put it out. We didn't talk much while I helped him pack. When he left I knew he was upset. When he got to airport I sent him info about the Christian Cross....I said to him before he read it....I said...when we started our bible journey we wanted to get right with Jehovah....it's not about Jehovah getting right with us. Once you see something you can't unsee it. I said you know enough already to know how Jehovah feels about false gods and idols. After he read the article he apologized and said...I totally get it. Please be patient with me. It's baby steps.....I dread the day he finds out about the American Flag. We aren't there yet. lol I'll need prayers for that day!
 

Ms_ladyblue

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I wanted to start a thread about my journey with my husband that started on Jan 1st where every morning I push play and we listen to 5 chapters of the Bible. I should of started this thread from the beginning. There has been a lot of drama along the way. You can google my husband CSM Ronald Riling he had a 32 year Army career. My husband has never had any bible knowledge even though he was brought up in the catholic church. I have always said my husband is a blank sheet of paper when it comes to the bible. The day we started our journey...my biggest obstacle was the use of Jehovah's name. That was a BIG day I mean A BIG DAY... however I won! Thats all that matters. After I presented the evidence about Jehovah's name he totally got it and he was good with the NWT. Today was another obstacle....we finished the book of Psalms this morning....he was packing for a trip and he was looking for something and he went thru a closet where he saw where I had put a very expensive Waterford Chrystal cross that had been given to him by a very important mentor of his....he came into the bedroom and said..he was holding the cross...he said hey..Why is this expensive Waterford Cross in the back on this closet. I said I don't want it on display. He said Why? I said because it's pagan. You should of seen the look on his face. He was upset! He put the cross back where I had it and he didn't put it out. We didn't talk much while I helped him pack. When he left I knew he was upset. When he got to airport I sent him info about the Christian Cross....I said to him before he read it....I said...when we started our bible journey we wanted to get right with Jehovah....it's not about Jehovah getting right with us. Once you see something you can't unsee it. I said you know enough already to know how Jehovah feels about false gods and idols. After he read the article he apologized and said...I totally get it. Please be patient with me. It's baby steps.....I dread the day he finds out about the American Flag. We aren't there yet. lol I'll need prayers for that day!
Melinda, I couldn’t help but laugh when you said you “dread the day he finds out about the American flag.” 😆 You sure got your work cut out for you, but with the help of God’s spirit and your willingness to stand firm you‘ll be able to. How you handled it with the cross was a perfect example you set. Jehovah knows the love you have for him and your willingness to please him by trying to help your husband. My prayers are with you Love ya sis. 💕
 

Watchman

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After he read the article he apologized and said...I totally get it. Please be patient with me. It's baby steps.....I dread the day he finds out about the American Flag. We aren't there yet. lol I'll need prayers for that day!
The way things are going with the US becoming the pedophile empire, by the time you get to the flag salute thing he might be ready to become a certified flag burner. Keep up the good work. As Paul said to Christian wives: "For wife, how do you know whether you will save your husband?"
 
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SusanB

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I wanted to start a thread about my journey with my husband that started on Jan 1st where every morning I push play and we listen to 5 chapters of the Bible. I should of started this thread from the beginning. There has been a lot of drama along the way. You can google my husband CSM Ronald Riling he had a 32 year Army career. My husband has never had any bible knowledge even though he was brought up in the catholic church. I have always said my husband is a blank sheet of paper when it comes to the bible. The day we started our journey...my biggest obstacle was the use of Jehovah's name. That was a BIG day I mean A BIG DAY... however I won! Thats all that matters. After I presented the evidence about Jehovah's name he totally got it and he was good with the NWT. Today was another obstacle....we finished the book of Psalms this morning....he was packing for a trip and he was looking for something and he went thru a closet where he saw where I had put a very expensive Waterford Chrystal cross that had been given to him by a very important mentor of his....he came into the bedroom and said..he was holding the cross...he said hey..Why is this expensive Waterford Cross in the back on this closet. I said I don't want it on display. He said Why? I said because it's pagan. You should of seen the look on his face. He was upset! He put the cross back where I had it and he didn't put it out. We didn't talk much while I helped him pack. When he left I knew he was upset. When he got to airport I sent him info about the Christian Cross....I said to him before he read it....I said...when we started our bible journey we wanted to get right with Jehovah....it's not about Jehovah getting right with us. Once you see something you can't unsee it. I said you know enough already to know how Jehovah feels about false gods and idols. After he read the article he apologized and said...I totally get it. Please be patient with me. It's baby steps.....I dread the day he finds out about the American Flag. We aren't there yet. lol I'll need prayers for that day!
I’ll tell you a personal story that may get a chuckle out of you. A childhood friend of my husband was one of the head guys at Pearl Harbor some years ago. I think his position was “Commodore”. Medi-Tator and this Navy guy (who retired as as Admiral a few years ago) have been friends since 6th grade. So he was given a beautifully restored older home right on the water’s edge on Pearl Harbor Navy Base. He and his wife invited me and Meditator over for dinner. Even though my Dad was a Marine, I forgot that at sundown they play “Taps” and everyone on base is supposed to stand with their hand over their heart. Well the Taps started playing and Medi-Tator and I stayed seated. It was a moment when everyone was frozen, bewildered that we didn’t join in. Medi-Tator broke the silence by asking his friend if we should face Mecca and he was obviously joking. His friend said ”We don’t recognize Mecca around here.” It at least broke the ice and it was getting chilly. We all stayed friendly but I wouldn’t say close friends.
 

Melinda

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The way things are going with the US becoming the pedophile empire, by the time you get to the flag salute thing he might be ready to become a certified flag burner. Keep up the good work. As Paul said to Christian wives: "For wife, how do you know whether you will save your husband?"
I heard my hubby on the phone with his mom talking about our Bible reading … I heard him say I think when we get to the end revelation… I want to start over cause every day my eyes are opened to something new.
 

Nomex

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One thing that never made any sense to me, is the cross was used for one thing, and one thing only, execution. If your loved one was murdered because of false testimony and lies, and executed in an electric chair, would you wear an electric chair around your neck as some kind of symbol of reverence, to the dead loved one? The obvious answer is no. Indeed, the Cross is not just a pagan symbol but full blown demonic. And these morons, at least some acknowledge that it is, but claim that there is a difference somehow, between the pagan cross and "Christian Cross."

But to me, I think the "execution" analogy is a nice ice breaker, to get someone to understand the absolute insanity of revering the "cross."


Satan is mart at what he does, and he slapped God and Christ in the face every chance he gets! I think the more disgusting aspect of this, is that they worship the symbol of Christ execution, because that is what they are really doing.
 

StopTheInsanity

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I'd love it if you shared here the information you sent him, because I was just researching this a couple of weeks ago.

I know that the cross was associated with Tammoz and existed as a religious symbol/phallic symbol way before Jesus walked the earth, but on Wikipedia it did say that executing people on crosses was common during Jesus day.

I know the greek word Stauros was used and could mean an upright stake, but I'd love some more solid proof that he was executed that way and how we know that. I would never put either a stake nor a cross around my neck, but it seems that the logistics of supporting the body weight with a cross would tear the nails right through the hands since it couldn't hold the body weight? Sorry to be so graphic, but that's how my mind works.

The article I looked at did say that they could've used a foot rest to keep the body weight up. As for the stake, it's been suggested that the arms overhead could've caused difficulty in breathing, but science has ruled this out. In the end, the article said that it was sheer exhaustion that finally killed the person hanging on a stake and that it was a long, agonizing death that took place over a few days thus the reason for the Romans to jab Jesus in the belly with a spear. It speeded up the death.

Either way, after being whipped all night and hanging there it had to be an agonizing way to die. I have found so many pagan/sexual connotations with the x-mas wreath, May-pole, etc, that few people know about. I'm sure it's got to be disconcerting to him learning all of this. I know all of us not raised in the truth had to go through this process. It's agonizing and exhilarating all at the same time. I pray that both of you continue progressing towards more growth and that Jehovah helps you to continue sharing his truths with tact and love.
 

Melinda

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I'd love it if you shared here the information you sent him, because I was just researching this a couple of weeks ago.

I know that the cross was associated with Tammoz and existed as a religious symbol/phallic symbol way before Jesus walked the earth, but on Wikipedia it did say that executing people on crosses was common during Jesus day.

I know the greek word Stauros was used and could mean an upright stake, but I'd love some more solid proof that he was executed that way and how we know that. I would never put either a stake nor a cross around my neck, but it seems that the logistics of supporting the body weight with a cross would tear the nails right through the hands since it couldn't hold the body weight? Sorry to be so graphic, but that's how my mind works.

The article I looked at did say that they could've used a foot rest to keep the body weight up. As for the stake, it's been suggested that the arms overhead could've caused difficulty in breathing, but science has ruled this out. In the end, the article said that it was sheer exhaustion that finally killed the person hanging on a stake and that it was a long, agonizing death that took place over a few days thus the reason for the Romans to jab Jesus in the belly with a spear. It speeded up the death.

Either way, after being whipped all night and hanging there it had to be an agonizing way to die. I have found so many pagan/sexual connotations with the x-mas wreath, May-pole, etc, that few people know about. I'm sure it's got to be disconcerting to him learning all of this. I know all of us not raised in the truth had to go through this process. It's agonizing and exhilarating all at the same time. I pray that both of you continue progressing towards more growth and that Jehovah helps you to continue sharing his truths with tact and love.
I sent him these 2 short clips It was short and basically word for word what I had told him.

 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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I wanted to start a thread about my journey with my husband that started on Jan 1st where every morning I push play and we listen to 5 chapters of the Bible. I should have started this thread from the beginning. There has been a lot of drama along the way. You can google my husband CSM Ronald Riling he had a 32 year Army career. My husband has never had any bible knowledge even though he was brought up in the catholic church. I have always said my husband is a blank sheet of paper when it comes to the bible. The day we started our journey...my biggest obstacle was the use of Jehovah's name. That was a BIG day I mean A BIG DAY... however I won! Thats all that matters. After I presented the evidence about Jehovah's name he totally got it and he was good with the NWT. Today was another obstacle....we finished the book of Psalms this morning....he was packing for a trip and he was looking for something and he went thru a closet where he saw where I had put a very expensive Waterford Chrystal cross that had been given to him by a very important mentor of his....he came into the bedroom and said..he was holding the cross...he said hey..Why is this expensive Waterford Cross in the back on this closet. I said I don't want it on display. He said Why? I said because it's pagan. You should of seen the look on his face. He was upset! He put the cross back where I had it and he didn't put it out. We didn't talk much while I helped him pack. When he left I knew he was upset. When he got to airport I sent him info about the Christian Cross....I said to him before he read it....I said...when we started our bible journey we wanted to get right with Jehovah....it's not about Jehovah getting right with us. Once you see something you can't unsee it. I said you know enough already to know how Jehovah feels about false gods and idols. After he read the article he apologized and said...I totally get it. Please be patient with me. It's baby steps.....I dread the day he finds out about the American Flag. We aren't there yet. lol I'll need prayers for that day!
A wonderful and heartwarming story of success.
 

Melinda

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Update on our Bible journey … we are now in the middle of Isaiah …I don’t know how or why but I dreamt about Isaiah before we started the Bible reading this morning. I am always excited for my husband to hear Jehovahs Name and Jehovahs word. We started this morning at 5:30 a.m. here’s the progress. My hubby now says the prayers before meals… using Jehovahs name. This is progress!! Isaiah is bringing up so many questions.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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Update on our Bible journey … we are now in the middle of Isaiah …I don’t know how or why but I dreamt about Isaiah before we started the Bible reading this morning. I am always excited for my husband to hear Jehovahs Name and Jehovahs word. We started this morning at 5:30 a.m. here’s the progress. My hubby now says the prayers before meals… using Jehovahs name. This is progress!! Isaiah is bringing up so many questions.
It’s wonderful when someone sees the meaning of our existence. I’m very happy for you both.
 

DR75 less 1

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I wanted to start a thread about my journey with my husband that started on Jan 1st where every morning I push play and we listen to 5 chapters of the Bible. I should of started this thread from the beginning. There has been a lot of drama along the way. You can google my husband CSM Ronald Riling he had a 32 year Army career. My husband has never had any bible knowledge even though he was brought up in the catholic church. I have always said my husband is a blank sheet of paper when it comes to the bible. The day we started our journey...my biggest obstacle was the use of Jehovah's name. That was a BIG day I mean A BIG DAY... however I won! Thats all that matters. After I presented the evidence about Jehovah's name he totally got it and he was good with the NWT. Today was another obstacle....we finished the book of Psalms this morning....he was packing for a trip and he was looking for something and he went thru a closet where he saw where I had put a very expensive Waterford Chrystal cross that had been given to him by a very important mentor of his....he came into the bedroom and said..he was holding the cross...he said hey..Why is this expensive Waterford Cross in the back on this closet. I said I don't want it on display. He said Why? I said because it's pagan. You should of seen the look on his face. He was upset! He put the cross back where I had it and he didn't put it out. We didn't talk much while I helped him pack. When he left I knew he was upset. When he got to airport I sent him info about the Christian Cross....I said to him before he read it....I said...when we started our bible journey we wanted to get right with Jehovah....it's not about Jehovah getting right with us. Once you see something you can't unsee it. I said you know enough already to know how Jehovah feels about false gods and idols. After he read the article he apologized and said...I totally get it. Please be patient with me. It's baby steps.....I dread the day he finds out about the American Flag. We aren't there yet. lol I'll need prayers for that day!

Very encouraging. Thank you for sharing.
 

kenmuldoon55

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I wanted to start a thread about my journey with my husband that started on Jan 1st where every morning I push play and we listen to 5 chapters of the Bible. I should of started this thread from the beginning. There has been a lot of drama along the way. You can google my husband CSM Ronald Riling he had a 32 year Army career. My husband has never had any bible knowledge even though he was brought up in the catholic church. I have always said my husband is a blank sheet of paper when it comes to the bible. The day we started our journey...my biggest obstacle was the use of Jehovah's name. That was a BIG day I mean A BIG DAY... however I won! Thats all that matters. After I presented the evidence about Jehovah's name he totally got it and he was good with the NWT. Today was another obstacle....we finished the book of Psalms this morning....he was packing for a trip and he was looking for something and he went thru a closet where he saw where I had put a very expensive Waterford Chrystal cross that had been given to him by a very important mentor of his....he came into the bedroom and said..he was holding the cross...he said hey..Why is this expensive Waterford Cross in the back on this closet. I said I don't want it on display. He said Why? I said because it's pagan. You should of seen the look on his face. He was upset! He put the cross back where I had it and he didn't put it out. We didn't talk much while I helped him pack. When he left I knew he was upset. When he got to airport I sent him info about the Christian Cross....I said to him before he read it....I said...when we started our bible journey we wanted to get right with Jehovah....it's not about Jehovah getting right with us. Once you see something you can't unsee it. I said you know enough already to know how Jehovah feels about false gods and idols. After he read the article he apologized and said...I totally get it. Please be patient with me. It's baby steps.....I dread the day he finds out about the American Flag. We aren't there yet. lol I'll need prayers for that day!
 

kenmuldoon55

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I just googled him.
Most impressive military career.
How does he get all those ribbons and decorations on his uniform?
There were military officers in Jesus day who were devout God fearing men who were richly blessed by Jehovah.
Sounds like your husband is well along in joining those ranks.
Good for you for living the truth for him to see. He’s blessed to have you as his wife.
 

Melinda

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I just googled him.
Most impressive military career.
How does he get all those ribbons and decorations on his uniform?
There were military officers in Jesus day who were devout God fearing men who were richly blessed by Jehovah.
Sounds like your husband is well along in joining those ranks.
Good for you for living the truth for him to see. He’s blessed to have you as his wife.
Thx so much for your kind words. I have not seen this article before. He indeed has a great heart. He lost 16 soldiers in a 20 hr gunfight. He alone while being shot at recovered every body. I don’t know how he will ever come to terms with his military service and his deployments were all based on lies. Thank you!
 

kenmuldoon55

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Thx so much for your kind words. I have not seen this article before. He indeed has a great heart. He lost 16 soldiers in a 20 hr gunfight. He alone while being shot at recovered every body. I don’t know how he will ever come to terms with his military service and his deployments were all based on lies. Thank you!
 

kenmuldoon55

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I could never wrap my head around how any soldier believed they were protecting Americas land or its people in all the wars of the last 100 years.
Only Satan’s city of London’s propaganda machine could've hoodwinked so many.
Critical thinking is absent in the majority of the world’s people.
All the lost lives and wealth that could’ve been used for good.
Imagine how great this country could’ve been had the greedy power mad powers that be had never been born.
 
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Jennifer

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Update on our Bible journey … we are now in the middle of Isaiah …I don’t know how or why but I dreamt about Isaiah before we started the Bible reading this morning. I am always excited for my husband to hear Jehovahs Name and Jehovahs word. We started this morning at 5:30 a.m. here’s the progress. My hubby now says the prayers before meals… using Jehovahs name. This is progress!! Isaiah is bringing up so many questions.

Melinda, this is wonderful news. I'm so happy to hear of your husbands progress. He sounds so keen. I wouldn't worry too much about the flag etc This world is in a state of collapse and by the time you get to all those details, it'll be worse, and have become pretty obvious that just about everything has been a lie
 

Melinda

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Melinda, this is wonderful news. I'm so happy to hear of your husbands progress. He sounds so keen. I wouldn't worry too much about the flag etc This world is in a state of collapse and by the time you get to all those details, it'll be worse, and have become pretty obvious that just about everything has been a lie
Thank you Jennifer. You made my day. ❤️
 
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