New World Order

[Nomex]

the GB reiterated that the "clay" is the problem---the people, trade unions, and patriot groups that interfere with the government.

I was thinking about this very thing the other day, can't remember if I posted about it, but it occurred to me the real problem the GB have with the "clay" is the ones who think for themselves. Jehovah want's us to choose to server him, not be forced to. The tone from Splain when he talked about this seemed so condescending. He has such contempt for the clay, when he said "interfering with the Governring Body, er um, I mean Government." LOL!

 

[Hope]

In the latest 2022 convention video, the GB reiterated that the "clay" is the problem---the people, trade unions, and patriot groups that interfere with the government. Here is a mob of French folks calling for the government to stop promoting war.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1566467537235329024

My sister says this is the end of times when people go against the government, and she says she never felt better when she got the jab.

 

[Dynamo]

It is interesting if you do a search on the WT CD Rom the phrase "new order" began to be used frequently in 1962. The term appears dozens of times every year. Some years over 100 times. Then in 1985, the phrase was abruptly dropped, scrubbed from the theocratic lexicon. In fact, I remember a convention speaker back then saying from the platform not to use the term any longer. So, it appears that certain GB members back then realized the term "new order" had been adopted by the occultist. More than likely the Masons in the org promoted the use of the term and other members of the Governing Body canceled them out.

Researcher and Author Fritz Springmier has written that JWs are an offshoot of Freemasonry. What is known about Russell's history with them? I am aware that he was one, at one time and lectured at Masonic Halls and that there is a pyramid on his graveside. I suspect that the author came to a hasty judgement. Cheers

 

[Watchman]

Researcher and Author Fritz Springmier has written that JWs are an offshoot of Freemasonry. What is known about Russell's history with them? I am aware that he was one, at one time and lectured at Masonic Halls and that there is a pyramid on his graveside. I suspect that the author came to a hasty judgement. Cheers

I thumbed through Fritz's book which I came across in a used bookstore back in the 90's. He claims CT Russell is one of the 13 bloodlines of the Illuminati. Bit of a loon in my opinion. By the way, Fritz was convicted of armed robbery and spent a few years in the slammer

As for Russell's pyramid, that was not his gravestone but was constructed by Masons a few years after his death. Strangely, recently the pyramid has disappeared. Below is my visit to the site back about 10 years ago.

 

[The God Pill]

It's not like Russell was a rare last name in the 19th century and even if he were part of the Russell bloodline his family would have to be pretty far on the periphery of it if Charles had the modest background of partly running a small clothing store chain

 

[Melinda]

I thumbed through Fritz's book which I came across in a used bookstore back in the 90's. He claims CT Russell is one of the 13 bloodlines of the Illuminati. Bit of a loon in my opinion. By the way, Fritz was convicted of armed robbery and spent a few years in the slammer

As for Russell's pyramid, that was not his gravestone but was constructed by Masons a few years after his death. Strangely, recently the pyramid has disappeared. Below is my visit to the site back about 10 years ago.

Thanks for the video Robert. The video gives more clarity. In my mind I had always thought the pyramid was on top of his grave. Your video shows that it's not right beside Russell's grave at all. To make the statement that the pyramid was part of Russell's grave stone is a big stretch.

 

[Dynamo]

I thumbed through Fritz's book which I came across in a used bookstore back in the 90's. He claims CT Russell is one of the 13 bloodlines of the Illuminati. Bit of a loon in my opinion. By the way, Fritz was convicted of armed robbery and spent a few years in the slammer

As for Russell's pyramid, that was not his gravestone but was constructed by Masons a few years after his death. Strangely, recently the pyramid has disappeared. Below is my visit to the site back about 10 years ago.

Thanks for the thoughtful reply and video. Very informative. CTR gave us so much. Love him.

As much as I try to expand the scope of my understanding, I realize how little I know, ultimately. I was just in an elders meeting a week ago and was asked if I believed in the FDS and I replied that I wanted to and, like Peter, had no other place to go. Also that they have never claimed infallibility, and that I would not adhere if they wanted me to believe that 2+2=5. Never thought I'd have my loyalty questioned over this non-theological issue. Doctrinal reversals over medical neutrality and the fact that, I guess we DON'T believe that there is a secret, sinister cabal bent on world domination have got me puzzled. That and the gag order turning elders into a goon squad to squelch clot-shot criticism have been of concern, to say the least. Anyway, thanks for the chat.

 

[Nomex]

As for Russell's pyramid, that was not his gravestone but was constructed by Masons a few years after his death.

I have no idea if this is true, but I read several years ago, that Rutherford was actually behind that pyramid "next" Russel's grave. Which is also hilarious because it's not even next to it.

Doctrinal reversals over medical neutrality and the fact that, I guess we DON'T believe that there is a secret, sinister cabal bent on world domination have got me puzzled.

This is essentially what landed me here. I keep wondering what part of "whole" in the scripture, "the whole world lies in the power of the wicked one", they don't seem to understand. Conveniently they have Romans 13 to explain when "whole" doesn't mean whole!!!!

Well normally Satan runs the whole world except when there is a plandemic, oh I mean "pandemic" and an emergency use authorized and mandated vaccine oh and face masks, then we know what Paul meant at Romans 13....And "we (the GB) are not the masters of your faith, except when it comes to anything you might disagree with us on, in that case you'll burn in hell, I mean die at Armageddon, if you don't believe every word coming from our mouths is beneficial for reproving setting things straight and every sort of good work"..."now shut up Apostate and stop thinking for yourself."


There is no question in my mind what so ever, the GB would receive Jesus exactly the same way the Sadducees and Pharisees did. "Some upstart well spoken 30 year man, what does he know we do not know?" I have no doubt they told themselves, "Jehovah trusts us, listen to us."

Just watch their video about Mary and Martha and Martha's friend telling her all the things the Jewish religious leaders were saying about Jesus. Their lack of self awareness would be hilarious if it wasn't so funny. I see if I can find it, and post commentary on it...probably going to have to be later though.

 

[Dynamo]

I appreciate your candor and agree with a lot of your statements. I once heard a D.O. liken the Slave to a guide with a map to a minefield and how we would step EXACTLY where we were directed, since our life depended on it. As one who knew not to take the jab, I feel like I'm watching as the direction of the GB steers precious spiritual family directly INTO the landmines, body parts flying everywhere, mass carnage and horror... Then weaponizes formerly helpful elders into a gaslighting bully squad to silence those of us with a firm grasp of the obvious. I feel as the man born blind who was cured by the Christ must have felt when interrogated by the Pharisees: Q: "This is above my pay grade. Why don't YOU have the answers?" A: "How DARE you? You're EXPELLED!:

Just remember, friend: Jehovah likes to exalt the humble and humble the exalted. Hang on. Dad chose you for a reason. Don't be claimed by the Resistor/Accuser/Slanderer. This malpractice will not stand and JHVH will make it right.

Here are some scriptures I have found helpful. Maybe you'll agree.

 

[Dynamo]

Also, my fave passage of Scripture, Rev 12, how Satan is misleading the entire inhabited earth: how can anyone blindly walk into this era thinking that Big Pharma is somehow exempt? See How Big Oil Conquered the World, & Why Big Oil Conquered the World, Corbettreport.com.

 

[Ms_ladyblue]

Also, my fave passage of Scripture, Rev 12, how Satan is misleading the entire inhabited earth: how can anyone blindly walk into this era thinking that Big Pharma is somehow exempt? See How Big Oil Conquered the World, & Why Big Oil Conquered the World, Corbettreport.com.

@Dynamo I’ve seen both, a couple of years ago. Corbett does some accurate and great reporting. That’s when I learned even more how the governments and these corporations operate. No, Big Pharma is not exempt.

 

[Dynamo]

Thanks for that, sis. I think there HAS to be a reward for being informed, perceptive & discerning. Not fair for the tables to be turned and be victimized for it. All the Best

 

[Jehovahsloyalchild]

I don't think CTR was a freemason. He denied being one but did admit that he was influenced by them. Satan infiltrated the organization from the very start. CTR was clearly heavily influenced by Satan's influence and the freemasons as was evident in the literature. Early literature is polluted with the freemason symbols. He was also under strong influence to declare the day of Jehovah is here. I believe freemasons were all around him throughout his ministry. I found this for what it is worth not really proof either way but found it somewhat interesting

Charles Taze Russell

The Grand Lodge of British Columbia and Yukon Ancient Free and Accepted Masons website contains philosophy, symbolism and history textfiles, print-quality graphics, biographies, international links and local information.

freemasonry.bcy.ca

 

[A B]

Lots of videos on Youtube about Watchtower buying and removing the pyramid.

 

[TheJehuChariot]

I thumbed through Fritz's book which I came across in a used bookstore back in the 90's. He claims CT Russell is one of the 13 bloodlines of the Illuminati. Bit of a loon in my opinion. By the way, Fritz was convicted of armed robbery and spent a few years in the slammer

As for Russell's pyramid, that was not his gravestone but was constructed by Masons a few years after his death. Strangely, recently the pyramid has disappeared. Below is my visit to the site back about 10 years ago.

That pyramid is no cheap house of cards. It is substantive and would have taken a lot of forethought, planning, effort and cost. Why would anyone go to that length for Russell? Who had that much attachment to his name and wanted to honor him so much.....in your opinion?

 

[CyndiaS]

That pyramid is no cheap house of cards. It is substantive and would have taken a lot of forethought, planning, effort and cost. Why would anyone go to that length for Russell? Who had that much attachment to his name and wanted to honor him so much.....in your opinion?

 

[CyndiaS]

I know you weren't addressing me, but I found the info in these links very interesting:

A SHORT HISTORY OF UNITED CEMETERIES

by Jerome The pyramid monument on the United Cemeteries property, showing the names of Arabella Mann and Mary Jane Whitehouse. Note...

truthhistory.blogspot.com

Who built the pyramid?

Edmund Kohler from 1927 newspaper So who built the pyramid? No it wasn’t Djoser or Khufu or other ancient Egyptians. We are talking ...

truthhistory.blogspot.com

Update on United Cemeteries

Most readers interested in Watch Tower history will already know about the changes made in the United Cemeteries in the last twelve months. ...

truthhistory.blogspot.com

 

[The God Pill]

I don't think CTR was a freemason. He denied being one but did admit that he was influenced by them. Satan infiltrated the organization from the very start. CTR was clearly heavily influenced by Satan's influence and the freemasons as was evident in the literature. Early literature is polluted with the freemason symbols. He was also under strong influence to declare the day of Jehovah is here. I believe freemasons were all around him throughout his ministry. I found this for what it is worth not really proof either way but found it somewhat interesting

Charles Taze Russell

The Grand Lodge of British Columbia and Yukon Ancient Free and Accepted Masons website contains philosophy, symbolism and history textfiles, print-quality graphics, biographies, international links and local information.

freemasonry.bcy.ca

I remember reading rumors a few years ago that Russell/the society sent correspondance to the Rothschilds and an article of a Jewish website that covers him as one of the Christian figures that most contributed to the eventual emergence of the state of Israel.

Russell's legacy as an enthusiastic, non-proselytizing Zionist has been acknowledged by none other than the incumbent prime minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, who said, “A recognition of Pastor Russell's important role as an early American Christian advocate of Zionism is long overdue.” The late Jeane Kirkpatrick, former the U.S. ambassador to the UN, called Russell a “neglected man and chapter in the history of Zionism.”

Early advocate of Zionism

On August 18, 1891, now in Jerusalem, Russell wrote to the philanthropists Baron Maurice de Hirsch and Baron Edmond de Rothschild, or as he puts it “the two leading Hebrews of the world.” No less, he put forward a practical plan for Zionism.

It involved purchasing all government-owned land in Palestine, i.e., land not held by private owners, from the impoverished Ottoman Empire. Years later Herzl would make similar proposals. (A copy of the letter is published in "Zion's Watchtower and Herald of Christ's Presence", December 1891, pp. 170-171.)

Rutherford initially continued the trend but as time passed the society distanced itself from zionism.

 

[PJ54]

I don't think CTR was a freemason. He denied being one but did admit that he was influenced by them. Satan infiltrated the organization from the very start. CTR was clearly heavily influenced by Satan's influence and the freemasons as was evident in the literature. Early literature is polluted with the freemason symbols. He was also under strong influence to declare the day of Jehovah is here. I believe freemasons were all around him throughout his ministry. I found this for what it is worth not really proof either way but found it somewhat interesting

Charles Taze Russell

The Grand Lodge of British Columbia and Yukon Ancient Free and Accepted Masons website contains philosophy, symbolism and history textfiles, print-quality graphics, biographies, international links and local information.

freemasonry.bcy.ca

The thing was that Russell was a Protestant. Protestantism was founded by proto-mason influences such as the Rosicrucian's. Needless to say, there was secret societies in the Catholic Church & others too no doubt. It really comes to show that pure worship hasn't been restored yet. The time of the end will likely be needed to bring it back.

 

[MickHewitt]

I remember reading rumors a few years ago that Russell/the society sent correspondance to the Rothschilds and an article of a Jewish website that covers him as one of the Christian figures that most contributed to the eventual emergence of the state of Israel.

Russell's legacy as an enthusiastic, non-proselytizing Zionist has been acknowledged by none other than the incumbent prime minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, who said, “A recognition of Pastor Russell's important role as an early American Christian advocate of Zionism is long overdue.” The late Jeane Kirkpatrick, former the U.S. ambassador to the UN, called Russell a “neglected man and chapter in the history of Zionism.”

Early advocate of Zionism

On August 18, 1891, now in Jerusalem, Russell wrote to the philanthropists Baron Maurice de Hirsch and Baron Edmond de Rothschild, or as he puts it “the two leading Hebrews of the world.” No less, he put forward a practical plan for Zionism.

It involved purchasing all government-owned land in Palestine, i.e., land not held by private owners, from the impoverished Ottoman Empire. Years later Herzl would make similar proposals. (A copy of the letter is published in "Zion's Watchtower and Herald of Christ's Presence", December 1891, pp. 170-171.)

Rutherford initially continued the trend but as time passed the society distanced itself from zionism.

Did they have him killed? Why the symbolism of the white sheet he asked to enshroud himself in death? Was it to symbolise his assassination the white robe? Caesar's stab in the back by Brutus? Was Rutherford the masonic assassin influence seeing the profitability in it all? What ever! We got the privilege of Jehovah's name to the organisation through him!