No Door To Door

יהוה_saves

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I agree. It's like when people say Covid destroyed the economy. No, Covid didn't destroy the economy. The government destroyed the economy. They locked down and quarantined the healthy, something that's never been done and did nothing. They closed small businesses as non essential and offered a few bucks to the owners who, a goodly number of, are now out of business. They put in place mandates and fear mongering that brought day to day business, of even the small things, to a screeching halt. Some would say that, at first, some of their measures were justified. But two years on now we can see what they've done and have a pretty good idea why...and it has nothing to do with our health.

"Fourteen days to flatten the curve!" More like 685 days to fatten the rich.
"We're all in this together!" No, I, like many others, lost their job and the billionaires in society gained 25-55% greater wealth.
completely agree with everything you say. as always, kirmmy :))))
 
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RR144

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They actually shut her down way before the passports.
Yes true, I added that as a side thought. Remember, it was the government that began shutting down businesses and churches, even arresting pastors and church members for being open and attending services. Then they introduced the "passports", mainly vaccination cards to be able to go out and eat or workout or attend concerts, and travel, etc.

That said, the Society is always ahead of the game. I remember when they first introduced the free literature on donation basis only. 6 months prior they had shut down their bookstore at Bethel. I was the Literature Servant and would go to Bethel once a month or so to pick up literature for the congregation. While waiting I liked to browse the store, and it was all boarded up.

Back in those days you went in, and all the books were on shelves, you grabbed a basket and took what you wanted and there was a brother/sister at the counter ready to ring you up and you paid for your items.

Tell you a sad but funny story. I remember reading that letter from the Society during the Service meeting. During the closing song, I walked back to the literature counter to be prepared because I knew what was coming. No sooner then the brother said "Amen", there was a stampede to the counter, people ordering everything and anything, because now it was "FREE". But what the friends didn't know was that the Society was still keeping tabs on what every congregation was ordering, and what they were all contributing.

One day we got a letter from the Society, it basically said, (paraphrasing) "You have ordered $2,500.00 worth of literature in the last two months and have only donated $500.00, you owe us $2,000.00" I remember telling the Presiding Overseer, "but the literature is free, how do we owe them?" (Yeah, I was one of those who always spoke his mind, the body heated me for it, but they respected me for it. weird). So the P.O. read a letter from the Society, about all the Kingdom Halls and branch offices around the world they were building, at that point, the P.O. said, "because of all the wonderful work that the Society is doing, we are please to announced that we will be donating to the Society $2,000.00". I almost busted out laughing, because I knew, the Society got their money.

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Cristo

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Yes true, I added that as a side thought. Remember, it was the government that began shutting down businesses and churches, even arresting pastors and church members for being open and attending services. Then they introduced the "passports", mainly vaccination cards to be able to go out and eat or workout or attend concerts, and travel, etc.

That said, the Society is always ahead of the game. I remember when they first introduced the free literature on donation basis only. 6 months prior they had shut down their bookstore at Bethel. I was the Literature Servant and would go to Bethel once a month or so to pick up literature for the congregation. While waiting I liked to browse the store, and it was all boarded up.

Back in those days you went in, and all the books were on shelves, you grabbed a basket and took what you wanted and there was a brother/sister at the counter ready to ring you up and you paid for your items.

Tell you a sad but funny story. I remember reading that letter from the Society during the Service meeting. During the closing song, I walked back to the literature counter to be prepared because I knew what was coming. No sooner then the brother said "Amen", there was a stampede to the counter, people ordering everything and anything, because now it was "FREE". But what the friends didn't know was that the Society was still keeping tabs on what every congregation was ordering, and what they were all contributing.

One day we got a letter from the Society, it basically said, (paraphrasing) "You have ordered $2,500.00 worth of literature in the last two months and have only donated $500.00, you owe us $2,000.00" I remember telling the Presiding Overseer, "but the literature is free, how do we owe them?" (Yeah, I was one of those who always spoke his mind, the body heated me for it, but they respected me for it. weird). So the P.O. read a letter from the Society, about all the Kingdom Halls and branch offices around the world they were building, at that point, the P.O. said, "because of all the wonderful work that the Society is doing, we are please to announced that we will be donating to the Society $2,000.00". I almost busted out laughing, because I knew, the Society got their money.

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Great story...thanks(y):):D
 

Jim

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Well Covid has certainly put an end to their door-to-door service. Making it harder for them to reach people and gain converts.

I always wondered why, with all their billions they didn't take advantage of other outlets.

The Bible Students for instance, as small as they are, published books, booklets and tracts. Magazines and newsletters. They have television and radio programs, they produce DVD's and software. They have dozens of websites, blogs and YouTube channels. They even advertise in newspapers and magazines. They even have a retirement center, that takes care of elderly brethren, something the Society never does.

RR
Indeed. I was wondering the same thing. Would have been an "opportune time" lol to restart the home subscription magazine service.
 
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RR144

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Indeed. I was wondering the same thing. Would have been an "opportune time" lol to restart the home subscription magazine service.
They want to control the flow of information. So called apostates will subscribe only to find little nuggets of controversy to post about. Charging for a subscription would open themselves up for the IRS to investigate. Anything to save a buck. One wonders how all the other religious publishers manage to stay afloat charging for books and subscriptions. LOL

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Nomex

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They locked down and quarantined the healthy, something that's never been done and did nothing.
And with everything they did, we still had/have a "global pandemic"...what a crock! Just one GIANT lie, on top of more lies! PCR test, 94% false positives. Death by hospital, death by Covid bullets, Covid car accidents, etc. I had some woman say "the masks work so good even the flu is gone."

Yeah they work great, they protect you from gun shot wounds, car accidents, flu, cold, pneumonia, cancer, heart disease you name it....but that damn pesky tenacious Covid. Nothing seems to stop that! I reallt wanna use an "F" bomb right now for these F...ing stupid .......arggg morons! Mass formation psychosis is real and we are living it.
 
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RR144

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Covid didn't put an end to anything. The GB did that! Same with all these lockdowns and everything else. Covid didn't do any of that, the various governments did this.
And in the past the Society has always gone AGAINST the government when it came to not violating their principals, but now they have sided with them.

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Nomex

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And in the past the Society has always gone AGAINST the government when it came to not violating their principals, but now they have sided with them.
And this is how I ended up here. When the GB and CNBC, CNN and the nightly news were indistinguishable, and all but one said, "brought to you by Pfizer"...that was a major wake up call for me!
 

Paz

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Interesting comments, yes this is very clever lies, Satan must be rubbing his hands in glee, he managed to get the gb to close down the public preaching work. Is it permanent? Many brothers hated having to go on the preaching work so this letters debarkel is the ideal solution for them. Many thought who were trying to have a real ministry have been thwarted from conducting proper studies with interested people due to the crazy ban on face to face contact. The result is a public cessation of praise to Jehovah that was part of Jesus command to his disciples . In U.K. all restrictions will be lifted in a weeks time. Yet the GB keeps us in lockdown! Paul says “do not forsake one another’ gathering together. This is a valuable forum.
 

kirmmy

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It appears from what the Watchtower spokesman has stated publicly that even if it becomes possible to go back to the door to door ministry it will probably not happen.
Hi BibleStudent! Can you supply a source to that statement? That is a huge, huge revelation and really shows that something explosive has happened in that organization. Could be a peek at the "Man of Lawlessness" and the fact he has now manifested himself.

ETA: Sorry BibleStudent, I didn't notice the video you provided. Thanks. That's just unbelievable, incredible! I'd can't wait to talk to my Witness friends about this to get their take on it. "They've seen more doors open figuratively than they have in the past 10 years". What bunk! And the "factoid" about 19% saying the pandemic strengthened their faith with that giant interfaith poster behind the newscaster...all I can say is; very interesting...
 
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Paz

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Hi Paz,
It appears from what the Watchtower spokesman has stated publicly that even if it becomes possible to go back to the door to door ministry it will probably not happen. They are happy it seems with it as it is currently. I don't know why they wouldn't bring back the cart work. I think the door to door work in the last few years has been a lot of not at homes or no answer homes. They say the curreny method is more effective? I don't know. I feel I still have a ministry as I preach when and where I'm able to do so. I'm still attending Zoom meetings.
Hi Bible Student I feel the same zoom meetings are encouraging you point about feeling the need to continue preaching is important since Christ commanded us to do so. I obviously am letter writing but feel that this cannot replace the proper preaching work with face to face. So I am upping my informal witnessing work since I just cannot believe Jesus meant that he would have stopped his preaching to sit at home and write letters. Even the apostle Paul under house arrest in Rome did write letters but not to the general public but to the congregations, as seen in the inspired cannon. The Zoom meetings provide worship of Jehovah, our comments and songs of praise are part of our sacrifice of praise to our God. The contribution we make also provides a responsibility we have to our faithful brothers whom Christs considers his ‘sheep’ To upbuild them as they upbuild us. We make up a faithful brotherhood That stands firm against satans attack. Some on this forum have intimated that JW are just siting a waiting for the new world to come, that the time ahead will be easy. The Go Bags that we are encouraged to have ready are because we expect to have to flee to the country side due to direct governmental action on the lead up to the gt. My point here is the gb is doing some things right. Take care .sister.
 

MickHewitt

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@Paz Hi Paz. Thanks for your message. I just saw your message and was wondering how you plan to upmyoj informal witnessing, as I've been wondering how to engage in the ministry more on my own, with Jah's blessing and help of course. What I'm doing now is on my own, I don't do it with the Zoom group, but it's mainly by electronic means.
Norway take away funding from Jehovah's Witnesses.https://onlysky.media/hemant-mehta/norway-will-no-longer-fund-the-jehovahs-witnesses/
 

Paz

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I will just go out into my local town and ‘bump into‘ more people and informally chat to them. I have already got a couple of rvs. I have halved my letters. And trust saving about £8 in postage. I admit I am shocked that gb is keeping us silenced.
 

SusanB

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I thought you all might enjoy seeing a side by side of the JW annual stats from 2018 to 2021. I converted the Excel sheet to a pdf, so hopefully this will post.
 

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