The Memorial Is April 4 This Year - "Right Around The Corner"

This is not remotely to be taken as a prescription im content with how things are and even if not as a great crowder would have no business weighing in. Going back to when I mentioned annual and weekly aren't mutually excluding concepts with the old way seeming to be both with Nisan 14 distinctly special the way i think makes it easy is to look at the annual as Passover/Day of Atonement and the more frequent custom as the priests in the temple with the bread of the presence which was made and consumed weekly. It makes sense because the conflict between John's disciple Polycarp and the bishop of Rome was Nisan 14 vs Easter not Nisan 14 vs a weekly custom. Again annual I'm confident is perfectly adequate more showing how it's looking like the weekly custom didn't emerge from a vacuum. It does make sense in the context of people talking about whether the pressence of christ is in the eucharist albeit some of the denominations of christendom hold to transubstantiation nonsense while others while affirming presence don't add that messed up doctrine of transubstantiation to it. This is not something I anticipate bringing up again because there isn't anything more I have to say on the matter presently and it's not my business.
Here is an interesting excerpt that I found from a website on


It was debated throughout the centuries.
Without specifying how often the faithful should communicate, Christ simply bids us eat His Flesh and drink His Blood, and warns us, that if we do not do so, we shall not have life in us (John 6, etc.). The fact, however, that His Body and Blood were to be received under the appearances of bread and wine, the ordinary daily food and drink of His hearers, would point, to the frequent and even daily reception of the Sacrament. The manna, too, with which He compared "the bread which He would give", was daily partaken of by the Israelites. Moreover, though the petition "give us this day our daily bread" does not primarily refer to the Eucharist, nevertheless it could not fail to lead men to believe that their souls, as well as their bodies, stood in need of daily nourishment. In this article we shall deal with (I) the history of the frequency of Holy Communion, (II) the present practice as enjoined by Pius X.

History​

In the early Church at Jerusalem the faithful received every day (Acts 2:46). Later on, however, we read that St. Paul remained at Troas for seven days, and it was only "on the first day of the week" that the faithful "assembled to break bread" (Acts 20:6-11; cf. 1 Corinthians 16:2). According to the "Didache" the breaking of bread took place on "the Lord's day" (kata kyriaken, c. xiv). Pliny says that the Christians assembled "on a fixed day" (Ep. x); and St. Justin, "on the day called Sunday" (te tou heliou legomene hemera, Apol., I, lxvii, 3, 7). It is in Tertullian that we first read of the Liturgy being celebrated on any other day besides Sunday (On Prayer 19; De Corona, c. iii). Daily reception is mentioned by St. Cyprian(De Orat. Domin., c. xviii in P.L., IV, 531); St. Jerome (Ep. ad Damasum); St. John Chrysostom(Hom., iii in Eph.); St. Ambrose (in Ps. cxviii, viii, 26, 28 in P.L., XV, 1461, 1462); and the author of the "De Sacramentis" (V, iv, 25; P.L., XVI, 452
 
Here is an interesting excerpt that I found from a website on


It was debated throughout the centuries.
It’s interesting to note how many times ”eat” or ”ate” or some form of that is mentioned in the bible. It often is used literally but also symbolically. We cannot forget that Jesus is also called the Word. So, not all encouragement to “eat” his flesh and “drink” his blood refers to the Memorial ritual. Sometimes it simply refers to taking in his teachings in a way that it becomes a part of us and nourishes us spiritually. The Memorial is actually the only ritual or ceremony that we are commanded to observe in the true Christian faith.

From what I can find, both Ezekiel and John were told to eat scrolls meaning that they were to meditate on their visions and the instructions they receive and take it in as a spiritually nourishing message so that they would have the strength to promote the message that came from God. Those scriptures can be found in Ezekiel 3 and Revelation 10:10.

1 Corinthians 10:1-4 speaks of the ancient Jews as eating spiritual food and drinking spiritual drink. I’ll quote that:

Now I want you to know, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud and all passed through the sea and all got baptized into Moses by means of the cloud and of the sea, and all ate the same spiritual food and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they used to drink from the spiritual rock that followed them, and that rock meant the Christ.”

Scriptures are described as food, some of it is milk for babies and some is solid food for mature people. Our words are supposed to be “seasoned with salt” meaning it tastes good. In fact, we are invited to “taste” Jehovah’s goodness in his word. Jesus said doing God’s will was like food to him. There are a lot of references to eating in the bible.
 
1 Corinthians 10:1-4 speaks of the ancient Jews as eating spiritual food and drinking spiritual drink. I’ll quote that:

Now I want you to know, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud and all passed through the sea and all got baptized into Moses by means of the cloud and of the sea, and all ate the same spiritual food and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they used to drink from the spiritual rock that followed them, and that rock meant the Christ.”
Paul was using the parallel figurative sense here to display the the fulfillment in Christ which is the Lord’s evening meal. That is why he mentioned in the same chapter the emblems:

1 Corinthians 10:16,17 “The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a sharing in the blood of the Christ? The loaf that we break, is it not a sharing in the body of the Christ? Because there is one loaf, we, although many, are one body, for we are all partaking of that one loaf.”​
So that they live a holy life, remembering him in every week, to partake in holiness.
There was really no direct command in the scriptures how many times to celebrate the Lord’s evening meal. But when he said that if they eat and drink the bread and wine together, they do it in remembrance of him.

When Jesus was recently resurrected, after the breaking of the bread, the two disciples from Jerusalem remembered him, and Jesus instantly disappeared from them.(Luke 24:13-15, 29-31)

Luke 24:30 “And as he was dining with them, he took the bread, blessed it, broke it, and began handing it to them. At that their eyes were fully opened and they recognized him; but he disappeared from them.”
Unlike the Law of Moses, there is freedom in the Law of Christ. Just like Paul said:

One man judges one day as above another; another judges one day the same as all others; let each one be fully convinced in his own mind.”

It’s the reason they meet together in the first day of the week rather than the Sabbath, to remember him who was raised from the dead. It was called the day of the Lord for a reason. The day they meet together to have a fellowship with Christ, as he said:

Matthew 18:20 “For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.
So it’s not a surprising thing for them to eat together in the presence of Christ, with bread and wine daily, but were then changed to weekly.(Acts 2:42,45-47; 20:7) And it continued at the time of Justin Martyr and many more.

For now though, I do not celebrate it weekly. I celebrate it the same with JWs. But if there is a chance to partake it with a fellow anointed weekly or everyday, why not? It will not be a sin as there is a leeway, a remembrance and thanksgiving of Christ and for Christ.
 
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Paul was using the parallel figurative sense here to display the the fulfillment in Christ which is the Lord’s evening meal. That is why he mentioned in the same chapter the emblems:

1 Corinthians 10:16,17 “The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a sharing in the blood of the Christ? The loaf that we break, is it not a sharing in the body of the Christ? Because there is one loaf, we, although many, are one body, for we are all partaking of that one loaf.”​
So that they live a holy life, remembering him in every week, to partake in holiness.
There was really no direct command in the scriptures how many times to celebrate the Lord’s evening meal. But when he said that if they eat and drink the bread and wine together, they do it in remembrance of him.

When Jesus was recently resurrected, after the breaking of the bread, the two disciples from Jerusalem remembered him, and Jesus instantly disappeared from them.(Luke 24:13-15, 29-31)

Luke 24:30 “And as he was dining with them, he took the bread, blessed it, broke it, and began handing it to them. At that their eyes were fully opened and they recognized him; but he disappeared from them.”
Unlike the Law of Moses, there is freedom in the Law of Christ. Just like Paul said:

One man judges one day as above another; another judges one day the same as all others; let each one be fully convinced in his own mind.”

It’s the reason they meet together in the first day of the week rather than the Sabbath, to remember him who was raised from the dead. It was called the day of the Lord for a reason. The day they meet together to have a fellowship with Christ, as he said:

Matthew 18:20 “For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.
So it’s not a surprising thing for them to eat together in the presence of Christ, with bread and wine daily, but were then changed to weekly.(Acts 2:42,45-47; 20:7) And it continued at the time of Justin Martyr and many more.

For now though, I do not celebrate it weekly. I celebrate it the same with JWs. But if there is a chance to partake it with a fellow anointed weekly or everyday, why not? It will not be a sin as there is a leeway, a remembrance and thanksgiving of Christ and for Christ.
You do whatever your conscience tells you but from what I’m understanding about you quoting my post is that you missed the point. My point was that long before the Memorial was instituted the Jews are spoken of as eating spiritual food and drinking spiritual drink. And, the rock in the waters of Meribah is referred to as symbolizing Christ. Just as Christ told the Samaritan woman that she could have asked him for living water and he wasn’t speaking of the Memorial celebration. The symbol of eating and drinking in a spiritual sense does not always indicate the Memorial ceremony. That is my point.

You also say “So that they live a holy life, remembering him in every week, to partake in holiness.” Where are you getting that? The scriptures don’t say the apostles were remembering him in every week to partake in holiness.
 
You also say “So that they live a holy life, remembering him in every week, to partake in holiness.” Where are you getting that? The scriptures don’t say the apostles were remembering him in every week to partake in holiness.
In order for one to partake worthily, he must be holy. As Paul said:

1 Corinthians 10:21 “You cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons; you cannot be partaking of “the table of Jehovah” and the table of demons.”​
Regarding the weekly, it is based on Acts 20:7 and Justin Martyrs account.

What did Jesus say after instituting the evening meal?

Matthew 26:29 “But I say to you: I will by no means drink again any of this product of the vine until that day when I drink it new with you in the Kingdom of my Father.”
Would this be just a yearly celebration in heaven?
 
I watched King of Kings 1961 the other day for the first time. I enjoyed it. They actually use the divine name in the first few minutes of the film, I had no clue going into it.
 
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