The Roman Empire Never Collapsed

Jahrule

Jahrule

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Thought you guys would love this observation I stumbled upon. It's a YT short, so it's only about a minute long. Nevertheless, I think you'll agree that it's an interesting observation. The Roman empire didn't collapse. It merely transformed itself into the religious establishment, and the British empire also didn't collapse but transformed itself into a banking system. 😲

 
SingleCell

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Exactly right! Which of course is what the prophecy clearly states that the "iron" would just mix itself with the people.

The "Wild Beast" really is the statue of Daniel 2.

The "image" of that beast will be a creation modeling itself as a global Roman Empire.

Londinius became the new Rome and the US modeled itself after it.
 
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Frank D

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This goes along with what I have been trying to find out here.

Dan ch 7 says the 10 horns/kings come out from Rome and also the little horn/8th king.

Dan ch 8 shows 4 kingdoms coming from Greece and there is no mention of Rome but regardless of it says that in the final part of those 4 kingdoms that is when the small horn/king comes about.

Rev ch 17 mentions 7 kings/heads and 10 separate horn/kings and beast as whole 8th king.

Dan ch 2 shows 5 kings and image as whole a king.
 
SingleCell

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Frank D said:
Dan ch 8 shows 4 kingdoms coming from Greece and there is no mention of Rome but regardless of it says that in the final part of those 4 kingdoms that is when the small horn/king comes about.
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I believe there are a couple reasons for this:

  • When Daniel was written the city-state which became the early Roman Republic considered itself a descendent of the Trojans
  • One could argue that the city-state which became "Rome" was really just part of "Magna Graceia"
  • After Alexander died 4 leaders/nation-states emerged: Ptolemy, Cassander, Lysimichus, and Seleucis
  • Greek city-states occupied a large portion of Italy, which became the Roman Republic... which then conquered "itself" at Corinth and also absorbed the Seleucids.
Its not a stretch to say that Greece basically mutated into Rome. Someone versed in the state of Italy during the Hellenestic period would disagree with that statement, but likely agree that after Alexander's death and the emergence of the 4, these lines are VERY blurred.

The exclusion of Rome in Daniel 8 might be a clue so that we connect the Daniel 2 Statue -> Greece in Daniel 8 -> the consuming beast of Daniel 7 -> The 2-horn lamb(Christian) which starts speaking like a dragon (covid+) of Revelation 13 (?UK/US?) and the Wild Beast which is the Daniel 2 statue.
 
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DavidCJ

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Ehh. Aspects of worship exist from Nimrod days. Nothing truly goes away, and ideas won't truly go away, not in this system anyway.

If the United States turn into the size and power of influence of Italy today, would you say it hasn't collapsed? For all intents and purpose it has collapsed. Sure, the ideas will live on.
 
Melinda

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🇬🇧 BREAKING NEWS:
King Charles III has cancer.
Buckingham Palace just released a statement
King will step back from duties as Monarch and Head of State while he undergoes treatment.
It is NOT prostate cancer (but it was found during his prostate operation).
.🤔
 
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MickHewitt

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Melinda said:
🇬🇧 BREAKING NEWS:
King Charles III has cancer.
Buckingham Palace just released a statement
King will step back from duties as Monarch and Head of State while he undergoes treatment.
It is NOT prostate cancer (but it was found during his prostate operation).
.🤔
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Can we believe it when 3yrs ago he was purported to have contracted Covid along with Boris Johnson?
 
Watchman

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Maybe Charles is expediting his transition into the nether world in hopes of being reincarnated into a deadly virus like his father hoped to be in order to do his part in culling the human herd. Eliminating humanity is what the royals are all about
 
Jahrule

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Melinda said:
🇬🇧 BREAKING NEWS:
King Charles III has cancer.
Buckingham Palace just released a statement
King will step back from duties as Monarch and Head of State while he undergoes treatment.
It is NOT prostate cancer (but it was found during his prostate operation).
.🤔
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Wow. That sucks. He ain't even been king two years yet. Imagine waiting your whole life to be king. Then almost immediately you get cancer. That'll be my luck. I might avoid cancer, but there's a million other things that could go wrong. Watch. The second I land this job, get really good at it, and finally establish a stable existence, that's when society will collapse. Can't say I'll be too bummed out, though. At least we know how this thing ends. If society collapses and I have to live in a tent again, oh well; at least I have experience. The hope we have is infinitely better than anything the royal family could imagine.
 
Melinda

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Jahrule said:
Wow. That sucks. He ain't even been king two years yet. Imagine waiting your whole life to be king. Then almost immediately you get cancer. That'll be my luck. I might avoid cancer, but there's a million other things that could go wrong. Watch. The second I land this job, get really good at it, and finally establish a stable existence, that's when society will collapse. Can't say I'll be too bummed out, though. At least we know how this thing ends. If society collapses and I have to live in a tent again, oh well; at least I have experience. The hope we have is infinitely better than anything the royal family could imagine.
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Jahrule you are a much richer man than King Charles. You have a heart that no money can buy. You are blessed with the knowledge that very few possess. You have inspired us by your endurance and faith. You are ahead of us as many of us have never been homeless yet we may face much worse in the days ahead. I am so happy you made it to Vermont safe. Hugs!
 
Jahrule

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Melinda said:
Jahrule you are a much richer man than King Charles. You have a heart that no money can buy. You are blessed with the knowledge that very few possess. You have inspired us by your endurance and faith. You are ahead of us as many of us have never been homeless yet we may face much worse in the days ahead. I am so happy you made it to Vermont safe. Hugs!
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Thanks, Melinda! Difficult days may indeed be ahead for all of us at some point. Think of it as advancing from one chapter to another. While some chapters may be longer than others, if we take everything one page at a time we will eventually get through the weighty sections. If Jah will be with a screw up like me I know you will all be just fine.
 
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Maybelle

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Melinda said:
🇬🇧 BREAKING NEWS:
King Charles III has cancer.
Buckingham Palace just released a statement
King will step back from duties as Monarch and Head of State while he undergoes treatment.
It is NOT prostate cancer (but it was found during his prostate operation).
.🤔
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MRNA cancer drug was announced yesterday, the. Breaking news Charles has cancer. Bet he has the Jab and is cured, paving the way for the masses….?
 
Paula

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Jahrule said:
Wow. That sucks. He ain't even been king two years yet. Imagine waiting your whole life to be king. Then almost immediately you get cancer. That'll be my luck. I might avoid cancer, but there's a million other things that could go wrong. Watch. The second I land this job, get really good at it, and finally establish a stable existence, that's when society will collapse. Can't say I'll be too bummed out, though. At least we know how this thing ends. If society collapses and I have to live in a tent again, oh well; at least I have experience. The hope we have is infinitely better than anything the royal family could imagine.
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Jahrule, yes your richer than Charles in many ways. You dont have to rely on servants to put toothpaste on your toothbrush. Clean your toilet and make your bed. He has everything done for him. I've been thinking hes looked ill for sometime. 🤣
 
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