Torn about going back

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Jah-son said:
If you choose to return, it's simply a balancing act and you have to let your conscience guide how you move.
Personally, i'm active (PIMO) due to my circumstances. The way I see it, Jehovah knows all things, if he's allowing WT to misrepresent him at the current moment and not doing anything about it, there is a reason. Likely a test. He allowed the Pharisees to do the same thing in Jesus day. But Jesus instructed his disciples to continue their form of worship without imitating the hypocrisy of the Pharisees.
He hasn't signaled for us to leave (stop meeting together for worship) or stop preaching. Those who have chosen to leave prematurely have to answer to Jehovah for their conscientious decision to do so.
If I could make a clean break, I probably would.
As far as my comments at the meetings and ministry, I speak truth. Plain and simple. Most of our worship still contains much truth and benefit. If there is a falsehood being discussed, I remain silent. It's not my responsibility to reveal to everyone what they should already be discerning. If the spirit hasn't revealed it to them yet, there is a reason. We are all under a time of deep testing. I've come to understand that I cannot change the minds of any JW (including my wife) when it comes to the GB idolatry and Jehovah doesn't expect me to. This is a deeply personal test IMO. That being said, it doesn't have to prevent me from offering due praise to Jehovah in the midst of the congregation.
I no longer direct anyone to the JW.org website unless it is to something specific. Again, it is up to the individual to discern truth. I will not teach untruths to a Bible student but if they read untruths from WT, they will need to discern whether it is scriptural or not. We all have that individual responsibility. No one should delegate that to a bible teacher or self appointed GB.
Ultimately, your conscience needs to guide you. IMO we can still gather for worship and preach with our brothers while holding a good conscience. But we each carry our own load.
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Thank you for your honest feedback. I do agree it is definitely a time of deep testing and only Jesus himself will be able to break the deluding spell of the JW's who still cannot see through the false return of Jesus in 1914. If they haven't discerned these matters yet there is a reason for that. I believe one is as the scripture puts it they worship Jehovah with their mouth but their hearts are far removed from him. They prefer to have their ears tickled prefer artfully contrived stories to the truth. Their faith is not in Jehovah but in men. I see fully why Jehovah allows this test and it truly is revealing who trusts in him and who trusts in man. Many only become witnesses for the reward of life everlasting never really developing a love for the truth or for Jehovah. Their faith rests in the hands of the organization and not in Jehovah God. I think I will return as the meetings are still going so Jehovah must still want us to carry on going. I don't know about door to door ministry as I cannot even begin to imagine handing out their literature. If I could simply share Bible truth directly from the Bible or better yet bring the second coming brochure and other literature written by Robert then I would gladly go but I think we both know that will never happen. I will say I would be more than willing to conduct Bible studies or sit in on one. I would love to conduct one without any extra fluff or WT doctrine but again I doubt that is a option. Thanks again you have reaffirmed that it is right to continue on until Jesus does return...it has not been easy nor will it be but in the end this will be nothing in comparison to the tribulation to come. I guess it will help build endurance and strength.
 
Jehovahsloyalchild said:
The upside also for myself is I am unbaptised which makes it alot easier for me to have freedom of speech without the repercussions of disfellowshipping which is one reason I have considered going back was to share the truth the full truth and expose the lies of the GB/WT.
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I want to be baptized but I can't even get a regular church to call me back because nowadays churches aren't much different from the Watchtower. They only baptize you if you're a church member. I have no interest in joining a church. So nobody will baptize me. None of them even return my calls. I'm literally a few steps away from going down to home depot in the morning and hiring an illegal immigrant to do it for me. That's probably my best shot at this point.
 
Jahrule said:
I want to be baptized but I can't even get a regular church to call me back because nowadays churches aren't much different from the Watchtower. They only baptize you if you're a church member. I have no interest in joining a church. So nobody will baptize me. None of them even return my calls. I'm literally a few steps away from going down to home depot in the morning and hiring an illegal immigrant to do it for me. That's probably my best shot at this point.
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Jehovah knows your heart bro. As far as Im concerned you can go dunk yourself into the nearest public body of water in full faith that you are dedicating your life to Jehovah through Jesus name and you are good to go. No one said that someone has to do baptize us. The purpose is for a public witness of you dedication. Its symbolic. Im open for correction if Im wrong.
 
Jahrule said:
I want to be baptized but I can't even get a regular church to call me back because nowadays churches aren't much different from the Watchtower. They only baptize you if you're a church member. I have no interest in joining a church. So nobody will baptize me. None of them even return my calls. I'm literally a few steps away from going down to home depot in the morning and hiring an illegal immigrant to do it for me. That's probably my best shot at this point.
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i wish you lived in my area.
 
יהוה_saves said:
i wish you lived in my area.
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I wish I lived close to some of you too. Feel like I'm in a strange situation where there's nowhere for me to go to find people with similar beliefs to mine. JWs are closer than most people, despite even them being few and far in between these days, but even they wouldn't appreciate my position because I disagree with the Org on prophecy. That pretty much eliminates 99.9% of the population. I know I'm not alone. I have brothers and sisters out there somewhere. I've just never actually met any of them. Not lately, anyway. Man, what a stupid pitiful world this is. Every day that I survive without losing my mind is an absolute miracle. I swear, if I have to explain to one more person that God's name isn't "God", I'm gonna scream.
 
יהוה_saves said:
me too. especially lately. Sometimes i just do not know how much longer i can hold on.

my life is one long torturous day.
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Trust me. I know the feeling. Of course, things could be much worse. Jehovah has obviously been with me over the years or else I wouldn't have made it this far. That doesn't make it any easier. But it does give me strength and hope for better days. Sometimes we have to go through hard times in order to teach us something Jehovah thinks we need. And if that's how it is, I'm okay with it. Jah knows what he's doing. He knows our struggle. I just put my trust in him. I can't deal with this world anymore. It's not my fight anyway. Jah has everything under control. When I remind myself of that everything gets a little easier. At least I have a decent job, my health, a place to live, food on the table. I can even afford a couple beers every now and then. Life is a monotonous cavalcade of mediocrity, but I can live with that knowing Jehovah is in control.
 
@Jahrule

you’re right. about everything you wrote.

it’s just that can’t i please just have one hour of reprieve?

Actually i shouldn’t complain because i do get more than an hour of reprieve- it’s just so hot here, and smokey, and tonight the moon was orange, ina smoke filled sky. It’s still 90° at 9:30pm my time.

I fell asleep at around 5pm and i dreamed there was a knock at my door- i opened it and there stood four JWs, all holding bibles, all dressed in white and blue Hazmat suits- like the masks, white and blue.

one said very sternly: Are you Kim Asadourian?? and I said yes, i am she, and then he said, you must come with us. You’ve been exposed to Covid and you must come with us to the kingdom hall for quarantine.

I yelled for my husband for help, and he tossed me an aerosol spray can of something so I sprayed these four JWs in Hazmat suits all over their suits with pink silly string. That is when i woke up.

Then i just cried for 15 minutes.

here’s the moon:

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However, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation standing where it should not be (let the reader use discernment), then let those in Ju·deʹa begin fleeing to the mountains.

Fleeing, is down to a individuals personal discernment

JW.org and the magazine are full of quotes from the World Health Organisation, the World Economic Forum (Arms of the UN - The Image of the world Beast!) and people like Anthony Fauci.
They are also promoting the Climate Change fraud.

I for one, in good conscience, could not personally point people to the Watchtower org or the GB anymore, which is what is expected when you are associating with the congregation.
 
StillA_WorshiperOfJah said:
I for one, in good conscience, could not personally point people to the Watchtower org or the GB anymore, which is what is expected when you are associating with the congregation.
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everything you said was perfect- and this part above- you’ll never get a response to that from the JWs on this forum who straddle the fence by posting here, thereby engaging in a behavior that would get them reproved or worse - because there is no viable explanation, as you so aptly point out.

I get people who stay in for reasons of close family who are in, because of the shunning policy, and that’s on Watchtower. But those who stay in (and judge others for not) and want to engage in a ministry that only glorifies men now, are on a sinking ship- she’s listing captain!
 
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PJ54 said:
If I were in your shoes I'd see what my conscience says. Test it like David did when he cut King Saul's skirt. Whatever it says listen to it.
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Yes you are right...I won't know for sure if it is what Jehovah wants until I return. I will see how I feel and pray upon my return. Thank you for your advice
 
Jehovahsloyalchild said:
Hi I would appreciate feedback and opinions on going back to the kingdom hall and how to do so after acquiring all this insight from Robert regarding the WT satanic deluding influence. For those who still go how do you cope under the circumstances knowing the full truth? Do you think that since we are privy to this knowledge of the deluding influence that exists within the organization that it is better to witness from afar? I don't trust the leadership but at the same time understand Jesus said to flee once we catch sight of the disgusting causing desolation which we know has not transpired yet. Please any advice would be appreciated as I am very conflicted about this. Of course I pray to Jehovah about this matter but still unsure as to what to do. Thanks in advance
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Our conscience can be a brutal mother! Everything you have poured out here keep putting it back to Jehovah! It's you and Him now but dont' worry that's where the confidence in Christ comes in!
 
StillA_WorshiperOfJah said:
However, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation standing where it should not be (let the reader use discernment), then let those in Ju·deʹa begin fleeing to the mountains.

Fleeing, is down to a individuals personal discernment

JW.org and the magazine are full of quotes from the World Health Organisation, the World Economic Forum (Arms of the UN - The Image of the world Beast!) and people like Anthony Fauci.
They are also promoting the Climate Change fraud.

I for one, in good conscience, could not personally point people to the Watchtower org or the GB anymore, which is what is expected when you are associating with the
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The constant references to UN and WHO pushing experimental toxic shots is what lead me to realize something was very very wrong within the leadership. I knew it was the truth I learned through my studies with them my interaction I had the meetings etc. I knew this was the one true faith I felt it in my heart a close connection and understanding of Jehovah but I knew couldn't trust the leadership. I would get a very eerie feeling when I heard their updates read the literature i knew something was very very wrong. I prayed and said to Jehovah I cannot trust these leaders within your organization but I trust you I will always worship you and asked for answers regarding what was going on. The very next day I found Robert King.
 
יהוה_saves said:
JWs reflect the personality of the Gov Body- they are purist, authoritarian, rigid, unloving. They don’t much reflect the fruits of God’s holy spirit.
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I agree with this assessment. I studied the Bible with JW's years ago with the most sweet, spiritual sister you can imagine. I was raised in the Catholic Church yet never believed in the trinity and all that nonsense. I looked so forward to going to the Kingdom Hall for the first time to be with people like her but I was in for a rude awakening. I had an "unbelieving mate" and I think that is one reason why I was shunned by most everyone there. It was not my imagination and it was palpable. I stopped my study in the late 90's after the UN information started to come out and I actually wrote the WT a letter asking them about it, and I received a letter in return stating something to the effect of I shouldn't be looking into such matters. I was stunned. Ultimately once the floodgates opened with the UN, child abuse scandal as well as the unloving atmosphere in the congregation, I stopped studying altogether. I did not stop my research however and eventually found Robert, for which I am so grateful, because now I have an EXPLANATION for everything! I am not sure I could go to meetings and not share "the truth" about everything I know!
 
A B said:
People need to learn about Jehovah and Jesus and the new world they have planned for the future. People need to learn about Jehovah's sovereignty. There is an organized ministry to help people with all that. Lots to talk about with people.
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Has the door to door ministry been allowed to start up?
 
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