BagdadBill
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Is there a Doris Day marathon going on one of the TV channels somewhere?
The only people who leave this forum are those who are confrontational and lack the ability to humble themselves. I'll refer to a recent example of when I felt slighted by a comment by BillyRay. When I responded, I didn't attack, I just pointed out how I felt insulted. Instead of replying defensively, he was gracious and kind, and I gained a brother. He apologized for any misconception his comment implied and didn't do the old, "sorry, BUT." It's not easy to feel slighted and turn the other cheek, but Jesus said we must do just that. You don't seem to grasp this command, and thus you continue to attack those you feel slighted you. You're also a tad self-righteous, judgmental and passive aggressive. I gave you the benefit of the doubt before, but enough is enough already. JWs who come here and are able to remain meek and humble, while using LOVE to guide their comments, tend to stick around. Those who dwell on the inevitable negative situations that will ALWAYS and EVERYWHERE happen, use this as an excuse to move on. I find this forum uplifting and beneficial to my spiritual health.It's very clear why the active JWs are leaving this forum and don't see God's spirit here. There's a long and growing list of such ones that I personally know of.
It is a catchy little song for sure with a good message.Is there a Doris Day marathon going on one of the TV channels somewhere?
Oh yeah now I understand why @BagdadBill mentioned Doris Day marathons!It is a catchy little song for sure with a good message.
The problem as I see it are those active JWs who try to defend an organization that I and many others feel is apostate due to all things COVID. There are many here who remain inside, yet are awake to the apostasy, and don't defend it. Some left as soon as they perceived the disguising thing, while others are waiting on Jehovah. I imagine there were some in 70AD who left Jerusalem 1 day prior to the Romans arrival, but many here don't want to take that chance... while others feel emotional pain by remaining inside. We're all different and equally loved whether inside or out. As for Proverbs, he/she was too impatient and unloving to remain, so good riddance. Nomex apologized for his reply, and received a dagger for his apology instead of love.Of course you will have few or no issues here. You've left the organization. Those who've left and are no longer JWs fit right in here. It's those who haven't who are hassled, like Proverbs; not being anti-Watchtower enough, or gov body bashing enough, so faced the gauntlet.
I’m lost on this one. What do you reckon she is on about this time. I know I shouldn’t ask but I’m intrigued.
That is quite interesting. I felt the watchtower was, not necessarily apostate, but simply corrupt. It is rather like hopeful politicians who genuinely want to help society, but soon find out it’s not about meeting social issues, but greed and avarice, and if you don’t want to join them, then you’re a goner. I never really saw genuine love amongst the brothers. It may have been there, maybe. I saw some who had concern for others and were genuine. In retrospect though, I cannot see how a true sense of love could exist or be enhanced when the message and remit of the watchtower was in itself, based on a lie. One cannot build love on a lie. That principle just cannot be applied in its essence. Having said that, I would not think for one minute that I have anything greater to offer, but what I can say is the those who attend here are honest hearted, and I think that that alone, is true to the message to an extent, far greater than that which is seen in the watchtower. Who can actually claim to have a semblance of the attribute of love that could hold a candle to the genuine article as expressed by Jesus? None. But the point is to at least try and to accommodate others in their struggle. Unfortunately, that is very difficult to accommodate if one is constantly affronted by the shortcomings of others. In reality, that is the main feature here, in that we all at least try to enjoy the good in each other and are interested in the ways of each other in seeking fellowship. The site is a spiritual gold mine, but gold has to first be dug up, then refined, then smelted, then hammered into shape, then crafted by the artisan. Hopefully, we will one day be able to wear the ring of marriage to Jehovah’s idea of love.The problem as I see it are those active JWs who try to defend an organization that I and many others feel is apostate due to all things COVID. There are many here who remain inside, yet are awake to the apostasy, and don't defend it. Some left as soon as they perceived the disguising thing, while others are waiting on Jehovah. I imagine there were some in 70AD who left Jerusalem 1 day prior to the Romans arrival, but many here don't want to take that chance... while others feel emotional pain by remaining inside. We're all different and equally loved whether inside or out. As for Proverbs, he/she was too impatient and unloving to remain, so good riddance. Nomex apologized for his reply, and received a dagger for his apology instead of love.
BTDI’m lost on this one. What do you reckon she is on about this time. I know I shouldn’t ask but I’m intrigued.
Comparing her self inflicted trials to that of Jesus. She must be going through a lot of hardship. I feel sad for her.BTD
Well, she’s trying to say that just as ‘Jesus was accused of every falsehood they could think of, made false assumptions, baseless accusations’ and so on…‘that’s what unrighteous judgement is’
She’s implying that those on the forum are giving her the same treatment as Jesus was given. That’s called…playing the victim or a more fitting word would be….the martyred witness.
I’ll say….she’s going through something alright! To see what she’s posting on this forum, in her mind, her hardship is our posting all these horrible comments that’s making her feel persecuted.Comparing her self inflicted trials to that of Jesus. She must be going through a lot of hardship. I feel sad for her.
"Woe to you who are well fed now, for you will hunger. Woe to you who laugh now, for you will mourn and weep."
Luke 6:25
Like I said, that is the kind of cheap cheezy c...p you find everywhere on worldly forums. Sadly, though one might think this one would be different, but is no exception.
I personally know several members on this forum personally who can attest to my character. I've requested they not defend me, lest they also be attacked, which one already was, more than once. Many just no longer participate at all here, understandably.
But, no matter, mockers will mock, ridiculers will ridicule, until the meek inherit the earth and those bound for the abodes above go home. Ps. 37:9-11
The earth is ripe for the harvest, you can see it, you can feel it in the air, you can smell it, like the newly sprouted grass. Psalm 92:7 KJV
"Let's not become the very thing we came here to flee from. Wouldn't that be sad and ironic." Jah-son.I just finished reading this entire thread and I feel like Proverbs 14 v 15 deserves an apology if still around, that was a bit cringy. The only thing he/she did wrong was write "infallible" instead of "not infallible" clearly by mistake due to context. I think we all need to just calm down and take a swig of Tony Morris high grade Bourbon. So defensive we are. Did I just witness a "disfellowshiping" from the forum? Lets not become the very thing we came here to flee from. Wouldn't that be sad and ironic?
Is the intention behind the mocking and riddiculing to be loving and to encourage? (rhetoricle)I dunno what's going on here anymore but its looks like its becoming a scripture battle to me. As we all know, any scripture can be twisted to fit ones view points. I just think the intention behind sharing a scripture is what is most important. Is the sharing of a scripture to prove yourself right/to be passive aggressive or is it to be loving and to encourage? I think we all could could take some time to turn to Corinthians and let this thread die. Hope you all have a wonderful weekend
I wish you the best Bible Student. I apologize that I spell checked your writing. That was my mistake and I did not execute self control. Now can we let this thread die.Is the intention behind the mocking and riddiculing to be loving and to encourage?
No problem. I looked it up and that's what came up. I haven't used my French in years. I do love Doris Day though, and that song.I wish you the best Bible Student. I apologize that I spell checked your writing. That was my mistake and I did not execute self control. Now can we let this thread die.
Hi BTD, I love your comment and what I have found on this forum is there are people who are willing to apologize and work to get along. Not everyone but actually I have found many. That is the difference. In order to get along one must be able to “let go” and not intentionally stir the pot as Robert King has mentioned before. But we should, and on this forum most do, encourage peace while respecting differing opinions. Not agreeing with someone is not the same as insulting them. But even if there is an insult an apology goes a long way with a person who values peaceful relations and has true brotherly love. To me when I see someone not accept another person’s apology that means they have serious issues. James 2:13: “For the one who does not practice mercy will have his judgment without mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment.”That is quite interesting. I felt the watchtower was, not necessarily apostate, but simply corrupt. It is rather like hopeful politicians who genuinely want to help society, but soon find out it’s not about meeting social issues, but greed and avarice, and if you don’t want to join them, then you’re a goner. I never really saw genuine love amongst the brothers. It may have been there, maybe. I saw some who had concern for others and were genuine. In retrospect though, I cannot see how a true sense of love could exist or be enhanced when the message and remit of the watchtower was in itself, based on a lie. One cannot build love on a lie. That principle just cannot be applied in its essence. Having said that, I would not think for one minute that I have anything greater to offer, but what I can say is the those who attend here are honest hearted, and I think that that alone, is true to the message to an extent, far greater than that which is seen in the watchtower. Who can actually claim to have a semblance of the attribute of love that could hold a candle to the genuine article as expressed by Jesus? None. But the point is to at least try and to accommodate others in their struggle. Unfortunately, that is very difficult to accommodate if one is constantly affronted by the shortcomings of others. In reality, that is the main feature here, in that we all at least try to enjoy the good in each other and are interested in the ways of each other in seeking fellowship. The site is a spiritual gold mine, but gold has to first be dug up, then refined, then smelted, then hammered into shape, then crafted by the artisan. Hopefully, we will one day be able to wear the ring of marriage to Jehovah’s idea of love.