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יהוה_saves

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@Sunshower

it must be more than arrogance- the GB is all in. There is so much that hinges on many things, too many to list here, that the GB has already attached God’s name to. If they were to come clean and apologize, as it is, then the curtain is drawn, exposing it for what it is and Watchtower itself unravels.

Then there’s the question of the GB’s intent- its true allegiance to “hidden hand”, the secret veil, 33° Freemasonry and if that is real, and i believe it is, they don’t want to come clean anyway. They are fully committed to Baphomet.

either way, it’s a zero sum game, they cannot and will NOT come back from this.
 

Sunshower

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@Sunshower

it must be more than arrogance- the GB is all in. There is so much that hinges on many things, too many to list here, that the GB has already attached God’s name to. If they were to come clean and apologize, as it is, then the curtain is drawn, exposing it for what it is and Watchtower itself unravels.

Then there’s the question of the GB’s intent- its true allegiance to “hidden hand”, the secret veil, 33° Freemasonry and if that is real, and i believe it is, they don’t want to come clean anyway. They are fully committed to Baphomet.

either way, it’s a zero sum game, they cannot and will NOT come back from this.
I agree, it’s way more than arrogance alone. It’s criminal behaviour and for men claiming to be God’s channel that’s equal to worshiping Satan.
 

Sunshower

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Yes unlike David who repented at his sin when addressed by Nathan, they seem determined or wayward toward imitating Saul who made excuses for his wayward presumptuous acts. To tell the Worldwide brotherhood , that taking the vaccine amounted to faith in them as Jehovah's channel and that doing so would result in them "staying in the land of the living" because Jehovah wouldn't let the bethelites and all the branches get sick and die, because after all they had to provide spiritual food for the brotherhood....that was an outright ''testing"of Jehovah. In other words , Jehovah you have to do this.....Like the devil said to Jesus , if you are a son of God, hurl yourself down...for it is written...
In my viewpoint that is exactly what they have done....Tested Jehovah in the wrong way.
I totally agree.

They are however worse than Saul. They won’t let anyone even tell them they’re doing wrong. We, as the average Joe publishers, will never get the chance to tell them they are wrong. But Jehovah will let them know what they’ve done. There’s no hiding from His punishment.
 

Sundial

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Well, the water must be getting a bit warm. Listen to the opening remarks of Bro Geoffrey Jackson "Keep the Belt of Truth Tight" from 2 days ago. He complains that there is: "... no end to the lies, misinformation and the falsehoods being spread...The verbal attacks and accusing of horrific things" He never says what they are though, and according to him it is against good Christians in general (not them...) :unsure:
 

PJ54

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@Sunshower

it must be more than arrogance- the GB is all in. There is so much that hinges on many things, too many to list here, that the GB has already attached God’s name to. If they were to come clean and apologize, as it is, then the curtain is drawn, exposing it for what it is and Watchtower itself unravels.

Then there’s the question of the GB’s intent- its true allegiance to “hidden hand”, the secret veil, 33° Freemasonry and if that is real, and i believe it is, they don’t want to come clean anyway. They are fully committed to Baphomet.

either way, it’s a zero sum game, they cannot and will NOT come back from this.
Perhaps many of them were never believers to begin with. It's a dark thought but anything is possible.
 

Back to True Worship

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Well, the water must be getting a bit warm. Listen to the opening remarks of Bro Geoffrey Jackson "Keep the Belt of Truth Tight" from 2 days ago. He complains that there is: "... no end to the lies, misinformation and the falsehoods being spread...The verbal attacks and accusing of horrific things" He never says what they are though, and according to him it is against good Christians in general (not them...) :unsure:
was this a talk on broadcasting monthly or talks
 

Sunshower

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Well, the water must be getting a bit warm. Listen to the opening remarks of Bro Geoffrey Jackson "Keep the Belt of Truth Tight" from 2 days ago. He complains that there is: "... no end to the lies, misinformation and the falsehoods being spread...The verbal attacks and accusing of horrific things" He never says what they are though, and according to him it is against good Christians in general (not them...) :unsure:
Apostate driven lies!!!!!! 😂😂😂

Sorry, I can't take it serious anymore.
 
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Grayson

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Clueless and faithless is only the tip of the iceberg. Imagine being married to a so called servant of Jehovah for over 34 years and they simply walk away from the holy vow of marriage because you no longer believe in the GB. Then on top of that all your so called JW friend's just stonewall you with complete silence. It's beyond faithless it's evil.
I’m sorry you’re going thru that,
 

BagdadBill

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To tell the Worldwide brotherhood , that taking the vaccine amounted to faith in them as Jehovah's channel and that doing so would result in them "staying in the land of the living" because Jehovah wouldn't let the bethelites and all the branches get sick and die, because after all they had to provide spiritual food for the brotherhood....that was an outright ''testing"of Jehovah. In other words , Jehovah you have to do this.....Like the devil said to Jesus , if you are a son of God, hurl yourself down...for it is written...
In my viewpoint that is exactly what they have done....Tested Jehovah in the wrong way.
So they constructed their own copper serpent without asking if it was OK.
 

Back to True Worship

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Clueless and faithless is only the tip of the iceberg. Imagine being married to a so called servant of Jehovah for over 34 years and they simply walk away from the holy vow of marriage because you no longer believe in the GB. Then on top of that all your so called JW friend's just stonewall you with complete silence. It's beyond faithless it's evil.
That is the same thing that happened to me , but my wife said that because of me sharing information about the vaccines with brothers and sisters via messenger and WhatsApp , and also saying that there is something wrong in the GB and that they were guilty before Jehovah and Christ and mans layers....oops too much? She told me she couldn't take it anymore and that we had to separate. I told her that was a violation of scriptural standards for separation..but she just said , she will leave it up to Jehovah...things went bad from there and I left...maybe I shouldn't have but I did or she was going to. We are on talking terms and I am hopeful and have prayed to Jehovah to help her reason properly and that I may reach her ....this is the very concerning part...we have two children and we have never ever had our kids vaccinated because she did so much research on them , even on Government of Canada s health website , and found it pretty much affirmed her suspicions , while not coming out and saying they harm you they ran in circles on the issues. She was adamant not to take or give vaccines until the GB said it and then with all the pressure from inside the congregation....the constant barrage of must get the vaccines, and oh , I went and got my vaccine and the loving direction of the GB ....it eventually wore her down . And her mom's health is bad and didn't want to not be able to go into the hospital with her mom is something bad happened , which I can appreciate but if someone is in a state of maybe being at deaths door , do you take poison that could kill you too? Thats my view....ooops ...I am ranting ...but now after 35 years of marriage and mostly good ...we have been separated 6 months going on 7 ... needless to say am I ever......angry, sad, hurt , frustrated ....where is this going.?
 

יהוה_saves

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He never says what they are though, and according to him it is against good Christians in general (not them...)

@Sundial

That’s been their modus operandi for decades and it worked for awhile. But people are waking up to the endless prevaricating, dissembling, evading, and outright lying.

They deliver their lies with a this strange cat-smile, and inflection- it’s a performance. Nobody presents this way naturally.
 

Medi-tator

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Perhaps many of them were never believers to begin with. It's a dark thought but anything is possible.
To me PJ, this is the crux of the entire matter. When it all shakes out for real and some of our former "friends" turn on us as foretold in prophecy, (I say "us" loosely, me included God willing), it will be because of their lack of faith in Jehovah that they do so. How, after possibly several decades of being "in the truth" can anyone turn on their fellow brethren like that and show no sign of real faith? It is simply because of exactly what you said PJ. They never worshipped God in spirit and truth in the first place. They only worshipped what they can see and that is the evil and demonic worship of men. Therein lies the dividing line even at this point in time. Our hope is that so many many more have the scales blasted from their eyes so they can exercise real faith in Jehovah and Jesus and stop their incessant and ridiculous worship of men. I pray for our brothers every day but like @Back to True Worship with great spiritual comprehension pointed out, I no longer pray for the apostate GB and haven't for a long time now.
 

Medi-tator

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That is the same thing that happened to me , but my wife said that because of me sharing information about the vaccines with brothers and sisters via messenger and WhatsApp , and also saying that there is something wrong in the GB and that they were guilty before Jehovah and Christ and mans layers....oops too much? She told me she couldn't take it anymore and that we had to separate. I told her that was a violation of scriptural standards for separation..but she just said , she will leave it up to Jehovah...things went bad from there and I left...maybe I shouldn't have but I did or she was going to. We are on talking terms and I am hopeful and have prayed to Jehovah to help her reason properly and that I may reach her ....this is the very concerning part...we have two children and we have never ever had our kids vaccinated because she did so much research on them , even on Government of Canada s health website , and found it pretty much affirmed her suspicions , while not coming out and saying they harm you they ran in circles on the issues. She was adamant not to take or give vaccines until the GB said it and then with all the pressure from inside the congregation....the constant barrage of must get the vaccines, and oh , I went and got my vaccine and the loving direction of the GB ....it eventually wore her down . And her mom's health is bad and didn't want to not be able to go into the hospital with her mom is something bad happened , which I can appreciate but if someone is in a state of maybe being at deaths door , do you take poison that could kill you too? Thats my view....ooops ...I am ranting ...but now after 35 years of marriage and mostly good ...we have been separated 6 months going on 7 ... needless to say am I ever......angry, sad, hurt , frustrated ....where is this going.?
So sorry this happened to you BTTW. I hope you guys can repair this rift sooner rather than later. Must be horrible!!
 

Medi-tator

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Clueless and faithless is only the tip of the iceberg. Imagine being married to a so called servant of Jehovah for over 34 years and they simply walk away from the holy vow of marriage because you no longer believe in the GB. Then on top of that all your so called JW friend's just stonewall you with complete silence. It's beyond faithless it's evil.
So sorry SS!!
 

Ms_ladyblue

Well-known member
That is the same thing that happened to me , but my wife said that because of me sharing information about the vaccines with brothers and sisters via messenger and WhatsApp , and also saying that there is something wrong in the GB and that they were guilty before Jehovah and Christ and mans layers....oops too much? She told me she couldn't take it anymore and that we had to separate. I told her that was a violation of scriptural standards for separation..but she just said , she will leave it up to Jehovah...things went bad from there and I left...maybe I shouldn't have but I did or she was going to. We are on talking terms and I am hopeful and have prayed to Jehovah to help her reason properly and that I may reach her ....this is the very concerning part...we have two children and we have never ever had our kids vaccinated because she did so much research on them , even on Government of Canada s health website , and found it pretty much affirmed her suspicions , while not coming out and saying they harm you they ran in circles on the issues. She was adamant not to take or give vaccines until the GB said it and then with all the pressure from inside the congregation....the constant barrage of must get the vaccines, and oh , I went and got my vaccine and the loving direction of the GB ....it eventually wore her down . And her mom's health is bad and didn't want to not be able to go into the hospital with her mom is something bad happened , which I can appreciate but if someone is in a state of maybe being at deaths door , do you take poison that could kill you too? Thats my view....ooops ...I am ranting ...but now after 35 years of marriage and mostly good ...we have been separated 6 months going on 7 ... needless to say am I ever......angry, sad, hurt , frustrated ....where is this going.?
BTTW

That’s absolutely outrageous what you’re having to endure and the problems that the GB is creating!
Saying “she will leave it up to Jehovah!” When it comes to marriage Jehovah has already set the standard.

The GB have overstepped their boundaries…and they say we’re in a “spiritual paradise?”
I didn’t know this spiritual paradise had dictators in it.

Just the fact that your wife was so adamant not to give or take vaccines until the GB said it, says a lot. They are too involved in the sisters and brothers personal lives. Is there anywhere in the Bible that Jehovah directs anyone in the congregation to make personal decisions for couples or families?

Anyway, I’m so sorry you’re having to endure this but I know that Jehovah will help you come through this, you can be assured.
 
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