SkinnyAndShort
Well-known member
What is the day of the lord? Is it his coming into kingdom power, tossing satan out of heaven? Or is it him returning to earth for the day of Armageddon?
Peace and security - Then what?
- Thread starter Watchman
- Start date
TheJehuChariot
Well-known member
White Stone stating he/she receives dreams from Jehovah and is being used by Jehovah via dreams this modern age prior to the Parousia just doesnt seem discrete, honest or humble. The latter quality shown most evident in their being very demonstrative in one's interpretation of prophecy that is quite contrarily opposite to what Robert has taught on here. One is entitled to their opinion, and of course... encouraged to share it that's true. But to come on this forum and consistently, insistently stating their interpretation is correct and Robert's isn't, without any willingnesss to concede, I find just too pompous self grandizing. But the whole receiving dreams thing is also too much for me. That's not the God I know and/or how He works this modern day. Nor is it scriptural.
SusanB
Well-known member
Dear The Jehu, I value your opinion. The part of your comment that makes me sad is to say ”too pompous self grandizing”. I feel that is being unfairly derogatory and unnecessary. This is a forum and we can certainly attack the ideas, the comments but not the person. I have gone back and read through most of White Stone’s comments and not one was an attack on anyone nor any insistence that anyone must accept their views. The purpose of a forum is engage in conversations with others who may have differing views. I don’t think anyone here wants an echo chamber. I hope you accept this comment with the respect for you that I intend to convey.
Yupyup_yup
Well-known member
I hope your right
My instincts tell me they're absolutely not a test I think by the time they introduced what is fully the mark
They'll notify that the people if you received the vaccine passport you already have it.... And those who have not received the passport will have to be jabbed in order to be in new one world society
For end time stuff there is no need for test
With the crippling of the world economy and the amount of money that they spent on manipulating the world - How could it be a test
Once again I hope you're right
Last edited:
The God Pill
Well-known member
I received downloads from Jehovah on two occasions ten years ago while conscious that left me very upbeat for a week in each case that energy is undeniable. I'm just a random great crowder but for whatever reason Whitestone received the upward call I don't at all put it past Jehovah or Christ to supply anyone especially annointed ones with dreams. He's from way over in the phillipines so there may be some cultural differences that influenced how his experiences went.
17 ‘“And in the last days,” God says, “I shall pour out some of my spirit upon every sort of flesh, and YOUR sons and YOUR daughters will prophesy and YOUR young men will see visions and YOUR old men will dream dreams;
kenmuldoon55
Well-known member
True! Also indicative of one’s fear of death which I’m sure the eighth king will be threatening mark resisters with.
The miserable short existence he will offer them under his jackboot rule will seem more desirable to the faithless than what Jehovah promises integrity keepers who will understand what’s really at stake namely eternal life.
Last edited:
TheJehuChariot
Well-known member
That is my point. The scripture says "in the last days". Since it doesn't seem the last days have begun (Christ parousia), it would seem contrary to God's nature and/or scripture to be inducing dreams for the anointed just yet. That's all I was trying to point out. And the other thing I'd like to add. I feel the litmus test for being discrete, is that even if one did receive "a dream", they'd keep it to themselves until Christ returns and validates each one's sealing.
Yupyup_yup
Well-known member
I respect your opinion but I'm not too sure about that
They received their sealing in heaven... At that point why talk about dreams and if there aren't to be talked about why give them
Yupyup_yup
Well-known member
To me discrete basically means not forcing your opinions on others but respecting their personal decisions knowing that we all answer for them
kenmuldoon55
Well-known member
Yup, I don’t recall ever hearing about a prior sealing to the one mentioned at Rev 7.
According to that text the sealing of Christs brothers doesn’t occur until after the great tribulation is cut short which is symbolized by the angels holding back the four winds of the tribulation’s destructive effects for the express purpose of sealing those yet remaining on earth.
“Then I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds from blowing so that not a leaf rustled in the trees, and the ocean became as smooth as glass. And I saw another angel coming from the east, carrying the Great Seal of the Living God. And he shouted out to those four angels who had been given power to injure earth and sea, “Wait! Don’t do anything yet—hurt neither earth nor sea nor trees—until we have placed the Seal of God upon the foreheads of his servants.”
Bible Gateway passage: Revelation 7:1, Revelation 7:2, Revelation 7:3 - Living Bible
Then I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds from blowing so that not a leaf rustled in the trees, and the ocean became as smooth as glass.
Yupyup_yup
Well-known member
@kenmuldoon55
Lol
Over the course of my lifetime as a jw, I have heard so many conflicting teachings between sealing and anointing....
I'll be honest I am confused
In the last 10 years, the view point in the wt org has change so many time
I feel dizzy on this subject
I have to study it
Lol
Over the course of my lifetime as a jw, I have heard so many conflicting teachings between sealing and anointing....
I'll be honest I am confused
In the last 10 years, the view point in the wt org has change so many time
I feel dizzy on this subject
I have to study it
TheJehuChariot
Well-known member
My dear sister Driven, tell your dear hubby Medi-Tator to give you a big warm holy hug. You are a sweet, kind soul and deserve such. Thank you for your agape loving expression. At times, tone is hard to hear on this forum and I know at times I may sound curt. My excuse is, when it comes to those whom demonstrably push back hard on Robert and his interpretations/teachings... I get a little protective. Not for the purpose of equating him to one that should never be upheld w/out question and/or constructive critique as the GB are outwardly held by active JW's. (I for one personally know he at times can be like dry toast. But made from great high quality bread tho). But because I've known him so long and recognize he has a unique insight and has no desire for a "following". So we all here are complicit in being here understanding his viewpoints/teachings synergizes well with us and just frankly, make sense. To the point where it seems undeniable he has been used by God for a purpose as a tool for the humble purpose to help maintain the faith of a few who are intensely seeking. Certain ones like WhiteStone and GodPill grate me when I see them very forward and demonstrable in their interpretation of scripture. Even after they've said it once, knowing it is contrary to what Robert has taught, they continue without any let up to keep beating the drum as if they are definitively accurate. I sense a lack of humility with it all. GodPill saying "Should we treat/view Robert the same way the GB are, etc?" I just find that so passive aggressive and disrespectful. Anyhow, I'm writing this off the cuff and often times I quickly engage on here throughout the day in the middle of hectic life and so may not always have the big picture in focus. My humble apologies where I am incorrect. But thanku again for the Christian love expressed.
kenmuldoon55
Well-known member
There are many in the .org now who may be anointed brothers of Christ however they, along with other members of the .org , have to be refined and shaken out of of their WT induced stupor which is what the great tribulation accomplishes.
According to Zechariah’s prophecy at chapter 13:8 two thirds of the .org will be cut off and lost due to the tribulations intensity and subsequent mass stumbling of both the anointed and other sheep class.
It’s only after that refining through the fire ,as it were, that these anointed are in a position to be acceptable by Jehovah since He’s the one refining them.
They then become sealed and become kings in the fullest sense while still in the flesh fully equipped to carry out the final message of condemnation to the worlds leaders and finally martyred for their work.
In view of the ordering of events that occur, the final sealing hasn’t happened yet.
At least that’s how I understand it.
Good luck Yup on your research into it.
Last edited:
SpicySpice
Well-known member
You could be right about that, I've felt the same way too. And of course I'm only speculating when I say its the precursor to the MOTB.
And you're correct about the destruction of the economy, I feel like its about to get a lot lot worse. The Satanic Elite WEF UN malthusians are hell bent on making us feel desperate, alone, and weak. If they break us down enough they probably expect that we will come crawling to them for help, desperate for the pain to end and cause people to start..."worshipping the beast" and saying look how powerful the image of the beast is "who can do battle with it?" Killing people for not worshipping the beast. Coming soon.
Jess
Well-known member
Ahhh ok gotcha. I wasnt sure. I always thought they were two separate but to be honest this thread is confusing. But yes you are right-we are all imperfect humans just trying to figure it out. I really have no room to talk because I am not even at that level yet. I just rely on everyone else to take a stab at it
kenmuldoon55
Well-known member
Indeed!
The masses are being conditioned for the big event.
SpicySpice
Well-known member
I must have skipped past this comment but JLC you are spot on. Another reason why I don't think the shots were the actual mark...yet. The mark will be accepted by the type of people of which you speak, the ones who love to worship Satans Sytem and will become so infatuated with it that they want to kill people who resist. This comes after the collapse of the current system and the resurrection of a new system into totalitarian 1WGovernenment (i think). When the real mark comes, its going to get CRAZY.
Yupyup_yup
Well-known member
Rev 20:4
Berean Standard Bible
Then I saw the thrones, and those seated on them had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image, and had not received its mark on their foreheads or hands. And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years
Contemporary English Version
I saw thrones, and sitting on those thrones were the ones who had been given the right to judge. I also saw the souls of the people who had their heads cut off because they had told about Jesus and preached God's message. They were the same ones who had not worshiped the beast or the idol, and they had refused to let its mark be put on their foreheads or hands. They will come to life and rule with Christ for 1,000 years.
With all this talk about the beheading it's kind of interesting that so many nations talk about guillotines especially in freemasonry
Here's a recent design from Chanel
Attachments
Last edited:
Jess
Well-known member
Hey now if it’s Chanel I’ll take it! Always wanted it but have never had it.
And Gulp
if there is a plus to the guillotines At least it’s quick.(Btw…That’s a joke about Chanel. Never had it bc I never cared about it).
Ms_ladyblue
Well-known member
All I can say is thanks for getting that straight Robert!As I said, you have some wires crossed. If you actually read the 11th chapter of Revelation it says fire comes out of the mouths of the two witnesses and devours their enemies and they have authority over the sky so that it does not rain. And you call that peace and security? Amazing.
